SU people, about your admissions policy


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Blu Panther

The name says it all
This is not smack because I want to know how this happens.

How do LSU transfers clear admissions so fast? I swear they are playing for LSU today and up and leave for SU tomorrow and their enrolled like magic. I thought you got to wait several days for a transcript and several more days for your application to clear?

I noticed no SWAC school receives transfers this fast. Is there some kind of policy you have? I want to use this at PV next season when we let the dogs out. We'll get A&M's leftovers.
 
Over the net

It's very easy. Submit your application over the net. Hand carry your transcript. Bring a copy of your game film to the recruiter and your in. don't forget a letter of recommendation and clearance letter from your former division 1 institution.
 

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SU and LSU have a cross registration program already in place so courses filled or not offered at one university, students have an option of selecting the other and STILL graduate from their university. How easy is that?
 
There is cross enrollment so our registrar office and thier work together. There are also several degree programs where students take some courses at each school. And as stated earlier, students at one school can take classes at the other. Even Shaq took classes at Southern. Does TAMU let yall do that???
 
sounds like some of these kids are on campus before they transfer. I don't know about us and A&M, it would be a 40-mile drive if we had cross registration. I know there is not a bus system like you all have that allows free LSU to SU trips.
 
the band fan, you raised a very good question. In my investigation of the student athletes who were on academic probation a few days ago, I said we do not allow athletes to practice until the grades are officially reported. Who determines if the grades are acceptable? The Department or the Coach. On the other hand, we do not offer courses in recreation, therefore it is difficult to apply grades to certain degrees. We recruited a JC who was majoring in recreation, but became highly upset because he had the hours to play, but could not apply them toward a degree in Biology. He became upset and left school.

tbf, you may be on to something that can help us in the future.

I would like to see how Lewis explain this one. Is SU using the same system as LSU to keep players qualified?

GetReady is this a common practice of the former big three? Maybe we have learned the secret to reloading.

I was in a Higher Education meeting and learned that some Departments at PWCs have never admitted a black person to their degree programs.

SU please explain?
 
I always wondered because it seems these kids enroll like lightning compared to other campuses. TSU had to sweat out a transfer and he came from Rice University! They don't get the amount of transfers like SU does.

Grambling is starting to get some but they actually sign on signing day. They don't come during preseason camp. Coime to think of it, no SWAC school gets players like SU does before the season.
 
Originally posted by Blu Panther
I know there is not a bus system like you all have that allows free LSU to SU trips.
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Actually yes there is a bus that takes students from SU to LSU and it passes like every 45 minutes or something like that.
 
Gentlemen...

This is not a new system. The cross registration program has been set up for at least 15 years that I am aware of. Not only do the students cross-transfer, but the instructors, also.

Now with that being said and both of these institutions being within "spitting" distance of each other, why would a transcript from one to the other be a problem? The "acceptable" courses have already been laid out.

Some of the students at LSU have even admitted to actually learning at SU because of not only the smaller student-teacher ratio, but because they can interact better with the instructors. The "Hook" is there and that is why SU has more than the local neighborhood support in its programs because of the good things. Only downfall is that if they stay on campus long enough, they see the "bad", also. But, hey, LSU has it's faults....

Now MD, how in the world can we explain why PWC's don't have AA's in their degreed programs? If it is a cross-registration program, as at LSU/SU, then the AA would probably be a Southernite. Not knocking brothas/sistas who do, but if they have a preference...that's one thing...if it is exclusion, that's a whole different topic.

I'm telling ya, when I was at SU, I knew some kids who were at LSU and I convinced them to come to SU to get "the easy grade". :cool:

Calculus in Timbuktu is the same calculus in Peoria! They got the message. :D
 
Interesting question. The only thing I wonder is if it is really as quick as you imply. You don't know when the kid decided to leave LSU or some other school to attend SU. Most of these students probably knew that they wanted out didn't even enroll at their school. Some came to SU for summer school. Others came after the summer but they are still ahead of the registration schedule for the fall. Right now they have the admissions staff pretty much to themselves to take care of getting accepted at SU.
 
To be honest the proximity of the two schools and the harmonious relationship between Pete Richardson and the staff at LSU (especially DiNardo, who once had Pete at his Spring Training as an observer) has a lot to do with the transfer process going so smoothly. At LSU, it gets to be a numbers thing. Sometimes a quality athlete might find himself down on the depth chart due to sheer numbers. Rather than keep a disgruntled player, he is encouraged to transfer to another D1AA program.

It is not always a case of the player being a problem, it gets down to a numbers issue. In the past, a few LSU players have also transferred to McNeese and Northwestern State in order to get playing time. A couple of seasons ago, Rashard Matthews of Christian Life had graduated from LSU, but because he had been red-shirted had another year of eligibility. He transferred to SU for his senior year and ended up signing as a free agent with the Carolina Panthers. Instead of being a seldom used player at LSU, he got a lot of reps for SU as a pass-rush specialist.
A lot of players fall in love with Baton Rouge (or they are native BR folk) and decide to stay here and finish their careers.
Because of the frequency that this occurs the process goes fairly smoothly.
 
Good point momof2ym..

I think we have to remember that some of these transfers left their previous school after the Fall semester of last year. They've already had the Spring and Summer sessions to transfer to SU.

Just because the name just appeared in the Advocate does not mean the athletes were not already on campus.
 
MB, the band fan has exposed another issues concerning the happening at SU. Reading one of his recent post, he stated that I don't tell everything I Know.

The bottom line to all of this is that some folks don't want the SWAC Office to become efficient as it can become. But I believe if we get the right numbers in the office a lot of things can be looked into.

One thing about Coop he did know how this other system worked and brought in some players from Auburn, Louisville and Notre Dame.

We still have a lot to learn up here in Normal, but we are fast learners. I have to give L.C. credit because he and Coop worked together.
 
I remember the Michael Hayes story a few years back. The story said Mike and mom left LSU after a bad practice, brought all the papers over to Southern and was in SU less than a day. I doubt he was cross enrolled.

However, the admissions system is fast and catered towards athletes because I had a family member re-enroll late at PV and he told me the deadline passed but they let him because he was an athlete.

LC knew the system like a book. He pulled a transfer from Texas A&M before the season.

I noticed several other SWAC schools follwoing SU's lead. At media day, several coaches were already talking about 1-A transfers form big state schools. However, they were there before practice.
 
All I have to say is this..

It's not another method of replenishment. Not the only method, just another....

Besides, I think that as a recruiter, even if you think you have a remote possibility of snagging a kid (even if he has signed with someone else) you should keep your "feelers" out within the legalities of the NCAA. If a kid feels neglected at his current university and someone on the outside is STILL showing interest, what do you think is going to happen?
 

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There was a basketball trying to get into Tuskegee about five or six years ago. He was denied admissions. It was the first of October and he left and went to Southern University. He was admitted and was in the starting lineup at the beginning of the basketball season for that particular year. By the way, he had a criminal record.
 
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There was a basketball trying to get into Tuskegee about five or six years ago. He was denied admissions. It was the first of October and he left and went to Southern University. He was admitted and was in the starting lineup at the beginning of the basketball season for that particular year. By the way, he had a criminal record.
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Not sure who or what you are talking about, but apparently it was all legal if not the NCAA would have stepped in. Get over it.:rolleyes:
 
SINCE 96

Originally posted by PsychoJag


Actually yes there is a bus that takes students from SU to LSU and it passes like every 45 minutes or something like that.
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THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 96 WHEN I WAS @ LSU.....
 
Re: SINCE 96

Originally posted by NASTY_QUE_DAWG
THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE 96 WHEN I WAS @ LSU.....
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Actually it has been going on longer than that. When I was at SU I was in NROTC and LSU students who were in NROTC had to come to our campus and ours had to go to LSU for AFROTC. I remember buses that ran back and forth from SU to LSU. So this is nothing new.

The reason it may seem so fast is exactly what BP said. These are athletes so of course they have folks walking their paperwork through. No different than we(band members) got our stuff walked through before everybody else. So if a kid leaves LSU he probably goes to his registrar and gets his transcript. Now we all know the PWCs seem to be able to do things faster than us when comes to that kind of thing. Then all he has to do is contact SU which he probably already has and once the coaches are on it, you know it is a done deal with our registrar, no different than them taking care of our kids who are already there. This is not rocket science. But yeah being an athlete does have it's benefits. So I am not surprised the transfers happen quickly. Besides some one made a good point. These things be in the works and just because The Advocate prints it when they do, doesn't mean it had not been discussed for awhile.
 
Until recently due to the dome renovation the registrar office and the athletic department were in the same building.
 
Re: Re: SINCE 96

Originally posted by JR
This is not rocket science.
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Best quote of the new football season.

Now who is checking, but if SU was winning Div 1AA Championships, you can believe someone will check. AAMU must be the only school that a student transcript must be approved by the Department and not coaches. I don't really understand the NCAA Rules that in Div 1AA you must be working toward a degree and passed a certain number of credit hours to be eligible to play. I do understand that if a course is not being offered by one college they can attend the course at the other college.

Are you all saying that athletes get special treatment at your school?
 
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Originally posted by Mighty Dog



Best quote of the new football season.

Now who is checking, but if SU was winning Div 1AA Championships, you can believe someone will check. AAMU must be the only school that a student transcript must be approved by the Department and not coaches. I don't really understand the NCAA Rules that in Div 1AA you must be working toward a degree and passed a certain number of credit hours to be eligible to play. I do understand that if a course is not being offered by one college they can attend the course at the other college.

Are you all saying that athletes get special treatment at your school?
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MD,
You know damn well athletes get their paperwork done quicker than regular students because they are at practice. They don't have to stand in the lines like regular students to haggle with those type of issues. Hell when I was in SU band I didn't either. Of course withmodern technology, I am sure no student has to stand in line like we used to. But come on MD, you know even at Bama A&M you have some coach who makes sure every player is enrolled and his stuff is taken care of.

BTW, I don't like you implying that SU is doing something illegal. I can promise you Pete and his staff aint doing nothing out of the ordinary. Besides why wouldn't LSU transcripts be acceptable to SU. If he is elgible by NCAA standard over there, why would he be at SU. We are not taking transfers who are flunking out of school or have suspect grades. Pete even usually talks to the coaches of the school the kid is transferring from. And yes SU has to approve the paperwork and not a coach. SMH
 
Now who is checking, but if SU was winning Div 1AA Championships, you can believe someone will check. AAMU must be the only school that a student transcript must be approved by the Department and not coaches. I don't really understand the NCAA Rules that in Div 1AA you must be working toward a degree
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Just because Southern does some things your school doesn't, don't mean Southern does anything illegal and it is sad for you to imply it. (We know Blu Panther is low down like this)<br><br>To shed a little more light on the topic, first of all, at most schools the department has a right to make rules (and I separate making rules and making individual arbitrary descisions) For example, a football player wants to transfer into Dept. X ( I will be general) and dept X requires a 2.8 gpa and Calculus (not the Business Math he took) well, that athlete can be addmited to the University, even though he is not accepted to that department. He will be in Juior Division until he meets those requirement to go into that dept. Now if he do not want to retake the correct math he can say, I don't wanna come now. But if he meets the addmission requirements that ANY OTHER STUDENT HAS TO MEET to get in the University, there is no reason to not let him in just because he is an athlete. and that is not a desc. made by any coaches. As far as how long it takes, the biggest holdup at Southern is finacial aid, and if he is going to be on scholarship or has his own money, that is not going to be a problem. Any student that walks up with a transcript and don't need finiacial aid and someone on campus ( read Parent, Uncle, Aunt, family friend, Coach etc.) that knows a few people can get in quick. Athletes are not the only ones that tranfer from LSU right before school starts. I personall know of students (non athletes) who have done that. One student started the semester at LSU but could not get the classes they wanted. Fustrated, they transfered to southern the first week of class and was straight.<br>
Mighty Dog, maybe AAMU needs to read the rules a little closer.<br>Blu Pather, maybe yall need to get a school that someone that has played anywhere else will want to come to.<br>Both of yall need to stop impling that Southern is doing something wrong, just because yall small minds don't understand, and we kick yall arses every year.
 
At first, ...

I thought tbf was being legit, with a side twist....

I knew MD was nut hangin',

but after re-reading their responses, it explains why both of those programs are down
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