SU/GSU comparison


PNeck019

New Member
I'll preface this by saying that I know comparing scores is basically useless.

However, for fun, I compared the margin of victory vs. common opponents and came up with this.....

If SU beats TSU by 15 (I predicted 14...lol), Southern and Grambling would have the exact same point margins vs. SWAC teams.

MVSU
SU +29
GSU +39
Grambling by 10

PVAM
SU +55
GSU +58
Grambling by 3

ALST
SU +25
GSU +3
Southern by 22

UAPB
SU +46
GSU +25
Southern by 21

AAMU
SU +30
GSU +31
Grambling by 1

JSU
SU +10
GSU +7
Southern by 3

ALC
SU -2
GSU +12
Grambling by 14

TSU
SU N/A
GSU +33
Grambling by 33

Grambling
33
14
10
3
1
TOTAL 61

Southern
22
21
3
TOTAL 46

Difference=15


What does all this mean? Well, like I said, probably nothing. But I do believe we're in for a hell of a game at the Classic. We just need to TCOB against TSU first.....
 
Originally posted by PNeck019
I'll preface this by saying that I know comparing scores is basically useless.

However, for fun, I compared the margin of victory of common opponents and came up with this.....

If SU beats TSU by 15 (I predicted 14...lol), Southern and Grambling would have the exact same point margins vs. SWAC teams.

MVSU
SU +29
GSU +39
Grambling by 10

PVAM
SU +55
GSU +58
Grambling by 3

ALST
SU +25
GSU +3
Southern by 22

UAPB
SU +46
GSU +25
Southern by 21

AAMU
SU +30
GSU +31
Grambling by 1

JSU
SU +10
GSU +7
Southern by 3

ALC
SU -2
GSU +12
Grambling by 14

TSU
SU N/A
GSU +33
Grambling by 33

Grambling
33
14
10
3
1
TOTAL 61

Southern
22
21
3
TOTAL 46

Difference=15


What does all this mean? Well, like I said, probably nothing. But I do believe we're in for a hell of a game at the Classic. We just need to TCOB against TSU first.....

This will be one of the best football games of the year. "On any level."

Forget about the events surrounding the Classic. That will take care of itself. If you are coming for a good football game, you are in for a treat. Win or lose, I just want a good game and a good showing by both teams. I personally think that it will come down to coaching. Both teams are very talented. No smack intended!!
 



SCORING OFFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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Southern............ 10 59 52 1 0 6 3 432 43.2
Grambling State..... 10 48 42 2 0 9 2 365 36.5

Alabama A&M......... 10 43 29 7 1 10 0 333 33.3
Alabama State....... 9 37 35 0 0 9 0 284 31.6
Alcorn State........ 10 37 32 1 0 12 0 292 29.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 28 19 0 0 8 0 211 21.1
Texas Southern...... 9 21 15 3 1 7 0 170 18.9
Jackson State....... 11 25 21 1 0 1 0 176 16.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 19 17 1 0 5 1 150 15.0
Prairie View A&M.... 9 11 11 0 0 4 0 89 9.9

SCORING DEFENSE G TD XP 2XP DXP FG Saf Pts Avg
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Southern............ 10 16 10 1 1 6 0 128 12.8
Alabama A&M......... 10 23 20 1 0 4 1 174 17.4
Grambling State..... 10 24 17 3 0 10 0 197 19.7
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 32 28 0 0 7 0 241 24.1
Alabama State....... 9 28 20 3 1 8 1 222 24.7
Jackson State....... 11 36 27 3 0 12 2 289 26.3
Miss. Valley State.. 10 36 29 1 0 9 1 276 27.6
Alcorn State........ 10 35 32 1 0 10 2 278 27.8
Texas Southern...... 9 35 33 0 0 8 1 269 29.9
Prairie View A&M.... 9 64 53 2 0 5 1 458 50.9

PASS OFFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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Grambling State..... 10 449 244 11 54.3 3202 7.1 29 320.2
Southern............ 10 300 196 9 65.3 2570 8.6 24 257.0

Alcorn State........ 10 294 160 15 54.4 2388 8.1 19 238.8
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 327 147 17 45.0 2065 6.3 14 206.5
Jackson State....... 11 378 189 14 50.0 2219 5.9 15 201.7
Alabama State....... 9 229 116 11 50.7 1704 7.4 14 189.3
Alabama A&M......... 10 285 135 14 47.4 1792 6.3 9 179.2
Miss. Valley State.. 10 315 151 12 47.9 1681 5.3 7 168.1
Prairie View A&M.... 9 271 147 12 54.2 1359 5.0 7 151.0
Texas Southern...... 9 213 120 8 56.3 858 4.0 2 95.3

PASS DEFENSE G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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Southern............ 10 289 133 13 46.0 1650 5.7 9 165.0
Jackson State....... 11 302 177 12 58.6 1842 6.1 9 167.5
Texas Southern...... 9 229 112 13 48.9 1582 6.9 13 175.8
Alabama A&M......... 10 305 149 18 48.9 1762 5.8 16 176.2
Alcorn State........ 10 291 159 13 54.6 1800 6.2 12 180.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 296 158 17 53.4 1839 6.2 14 183.9
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 308 144 15 46.8 1849 6.0 15 184.9
Alabama State....... 9 299 164 7 54.8 2027 6.8 15 225.2
Grambling State..... 10 361 185 12 51.2 2268 6.3 13 226.8
Prairie View A&M.... 9 242 148 7 61.2 2269 9.4 21 252.1

KICKOFF RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
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Southern............ 10 27 750 2 27.8
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 42 940 1 22.4
Miss. Valley State.. 10 46 990 1 21.5
Jackson State....... 11 46 982 1 21.3
Alcorn State........ 10 46 965 0 21.0
Texas Southern...... 9 46 951 0 20.7
Alabama A&M......... 10 29 594 1 20.5
Alabama State....... 9 34 657 0 19.3
Grambling State..... 10 38 700 0 18.4
Prairie View A&M.... 9 65 951 0 14.6

PUNTING G No. Yards Avg Ret Yds Avg Net/P
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Alabama State....... 9 40 1504 37.6 16 102 2.5 35.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 68 2447 36.0 30 226 3.3 32.7
Alabama A&M......... 10 45 1652 36.7 19 205 4.6 32.2
Alcorn State........ 10 43 1543 35.9 19 179 4.2 31.7
Texas Southern...... 9 64 2309 36.1 28 315 4.9 31.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 51 1789 35.1 26 270 5.3 29.8
Grambling State..... 10 37 1229 33.2 16 142 3.8 29.4
Southern............ 10 32 1179 36.8 16 253 7.9 28.9

Jackson State....... 11 55 1902 34.6 29 405 7.4 27.2
Prairie View A&M.... 9 63 2279 36.2 46 633 10.0 26.1

|--Gained--||---Lost---|
TURNOVER MARGIN G Fum Int Tot Fum Int Tot Mar Per/G
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Southern............ 10 11 13 24 3 9 12 +12 1.20
Alabama A&M......... 10 14 18 32 8 14 22 +10 1.00
Texas Southern...... 9 13 13 26 16 8 24 +2 0.22
Miss. Valley State.. 10 11 17 28 16 12 28 +0 0.00
Alabama State....... 9 14 7 21 10 11 21 +0 0.00
Grambling State..... 10 10 12 22 11 11 22 +0 0.00
Alcorn State........ 10 13 13 26 13 15 28 -2 -0.20
Prairie View A&M.... 9 12 7 19 12 12 24 -5 -0.56
Jackson State....... 11 8 12 20 15 14 29 -9 -0.82
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 8 15 23 17 17 34 -11 -1.10

RUSHING OFFENSE G Att Yds Avg TD Yds/G
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Alabama State....... 9 340 1616 4.8 19 179.6
Southern............ 10 355 1786 5.0 29 178.6
Alabama A&M......... 10 368 1661 4.5 26 166.1
Texas Southern...... 9 400 1437 3.6 16 159.7
Alcorn State........ 10 367 1527 4.2 14 152.7
Grambling State..... 10 299 1508 5.0 18 150.8
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 349 1368 3.9 10 136.8
Jackson State....... 11 355 780 2.2 7 70.9
Prairie View A&M.... 9 290 627 2.2 4 69.7
Miss. Valley State.. 10 321 676 2.1 11 67.6

RUSHING DEFENSE G Rushes Yards Avg. TD Yds/G
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Alabama A&M......... 10 369 923 2.5 5 92.3
Grambling State..... 10 324 938 2.9 9 93.8
Southern............ 10 342 980 2.9 5 98.0

Alabama State....... 9 322 1108 3.4 11 123.1
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 377 1360 3.6 14 136.0
Alcorn State........ 10 364 1437 3.9 21 143.7
Miss. Valley State.. 10 353 1596 4.5 19 159.6
Texas Southern...... 9 380 1664 4.4 17 184.9
Jackson State....... 11 441 2081 4.7 24 189.2
Prairie View A&M.... 9 344 2155 6.3 35 239.4

TOTAL OFFENSE G Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Yds/G
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Grambling State..... 10 1508 3202 748 4710 6.3 47 471.0
Southern............ 10 1786 2570 655 4356 6.7 53 435.6

Alcorn State........ 10 1527 2388 661 3915 5.9 33 391.5
Alabama State....... 9 1616 1704 569 3320 5.8 33 368.9
Alabama A&M......... 10 1661 1792 653 3453 5.3 35 345.3
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 1368 2065 676 3433 5.1 24 343.3
Jackson State....... 11 780 2219 733 2999 4.1 22 272.6
Texas Southern...... 9 1437 858 613 2295 3.7 18 255.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 676 1681 636 2357 3.7 18 235.7
Prairie View A&M.... 9 627 1359 561 1986 3.5 11 220.7

TOTAL DEFENSE G Rush Pass Plys Yards Avg TD Yds/G
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Southern............ 10 980 1650 631 2630 4.2 14 263.0
Alabama A&M......... 10 923 1762 674 2685 4.0 21 268.5
Grambling State..... 10 938 2268 685 3206 4.7 22 320.6
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 1360 1849 685 3209 4.7 29 320.9
Alcorn State........ 10 1437 1800 655 3237 4.9 33 323.7
Miss. Valley State.. 10 1596 1839 649 3435 5.3 33 343.5
Alabama State....... 9 1108 2027 621 3135 5.0 26 348.3
Jackson State....... 11 2081 1842 743 3923 5.3 33 356.6
Texas Southern...... 9 1664 1582 609 3246 5.3 30 360.7
Prairie View A&M.... 9 2155 2269 586 4424 7.5 56 491.6

PUNT RETURNS G Ret Yds TD Avg
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Alabama State....... 9 18 314 2 17.4
Miss. Valley State.. 10 23 325 0 14.1
Southern............ 10 29 378 1 13.0
Alabama A&M......... 10 33 371 1 11.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 26 259 0 10.0
Grambling State..... 10 28 268 0 9.6
Alcorn State........ 10 30 281 0 9.4
Texas Southern...... 9 24 221 0 9.2
Prairie View A&M.... 9 8 59 0 7.4
Jackson State....... 11 23 81 0 3.5

PASS EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Pct Int Yds TD Effic
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Southern............ 10 300 196 .653 9 2570 24 157.7
Alcorn State........ 10 294 160 .544 15 2388 19 133.8
Grambling State..... 10 449 244 .543 11 3202 29 130.7
Alabama State....... 9 229 116 .507 11 1704 14 123.7
Jackson State....... 11 378 189 .500 14 2219 15 105.0
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 327 147 .450 17 2065 14 101.7
Alabama A&M......... 10 285 135 .474 14 1792 9 100.8
Prairie View A&M.... 9 271 147 .542 12 1359 7 96.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 315 151 .479 12 1681 7 92.5
Texas Southern...... 9 213 120 .563 8 858 2 85.8

PASS DEF EFFICIENCY G Att Cmp Int Pct. Yds TD Effic
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Southern............ 10 289 133 13 46.0 1650 9 95.3
Alabama A&M......... 10 305 149 18 48.9 1762 16 102.9
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 308 144 15 46.8 1849 15 103.5
Grambling State..... 10 361 185 12 51.2 2268 13 109.3
Miss. Valley State.. 10 296 158 17 53.4 1839 14 109.7
Alcorn State........ 10 291 159 13 54.6 1800 12 111.3
Jackson State....... 11 302 177 12 58.6 1842 9 111.7
Texas Southern...... 9 229 112 13 48.9 1582 13 114.3
Alabama State....... 9 299 164 7 54.8 2027 15 123.7
Prairie View A&M.... 9 242 148 7 61.2 2269 21 162.8

FIRST DOWNS G Rush Pass Pen Total
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Grambling State..... 10 87 155 21 263
Southern............ 10 83 113 29 225

Alcorn State........ 10 87 94 19 200
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 79 83 17 179
Jackson State....... 11 65 95 17 177
Alabama State....... 9 88 68 16 172
Alabama A&M......... 10 79 74 18 171
Miss. Valley State.. 10 57 72 22 151
Texas Southern...... 9 89 41 15 145
Prairie View A&M.... 9 46 60 15 121

OPPONENT 1ST DOWNS G Rush Pass Pen Total
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Southern............ 10 69 69 19 157
Alabama A&M......... 10 56 78 34 168
Miss. Valley State.. 10 76 78 18 172
Texas Southern...... 9 102 61 13 176
Alcorn State........ 10 75 82 20 177
Alabama State....... 9 73 92 19 184
Grambling State..... 10 58 99 28 185
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 91 77 28 196
Jackson State....... 11 112 83 10 205
Prairie View A&M.... 9 116 99 13 228

SACKS BY G Sacks Yards
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Alabama A&M......... 10 47 319
Alabama State....... 9 29 215
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 25 169
Texas Southern...... 9 25 160
Grambling State..... 10 21 137
Alcorn State........ 10 20 152
Southern............ 10 18 120
Miss. Valley State.. 10 17 77
Jackson State....... 11 10 46
Prairie View A&M.... 9 6 38

PENALTIES G No Yds Avg/G
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Jackson State....... 11 71 488 44.4
Prairie View A&M.... 9 43 423 47.0
Texas Southern...... 9 73 605 67.2
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 92 725 72.5
Alabama State....... 9 73 716 79.6
Southern............ 10 78 806 80.6
Alabama A&M......... 10 93 808 80.8
Grambling State..... 10 97 827 82.7
Miss. Valley State.. 10 96 837 83.7
Alcorn State........ 10 93 872 87.2

OPPONENT PENALTIES G No Yds Avg/G
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Miss. Valley State.. 10 92 873 87.3
Alabama A&M......... 10 87 794 79.4
Prairie View A&M.... 9 72 697 77.4
Alabama State....... 9 75 660 73.3
Southern............ 10 87 726 72.6
Alcorn State........ 10 71 705 70.5
Grambling State..... 10 81 703 70.3
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 78 649 64.9
Texas Southern...... 9 64 549 61.0
Jackson State....... 11 88 660 60.0

4TH-DN CONVERSIONS G Conv Att Pct
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Southern............ 10 8 13 61.5
Texas Southern...... 9 7 12 58.3
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 13 24 54.2
Grambling State..... 10 8 16 50.0
Alcorn State........ 10 5 11 45.5
Alabama A&M......... 10 9 20 45.0
Jackson State....... 11 12 36 33.3
Alabama State....... 9 4 12 33.3
Miss. Valley State.. 10 6 18 33.3
Prairie View A&M.... 9 3 11 27.3

OPP 4TH-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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Alabama A&M......... 10 4 17 23.5
Alabama State....... 9 4 14 28.6
Grambling State..... 10 7 22 31.8
Southern............ 10 7 20 35.0

Texas Southern...... 9 5 13 38.5
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 7 17 41.2
Miss. Valley State.. 10 8 18 44.4
Alcorn State........ 10 7 13 53.8
Jackson State....... 11 11 19 57.9
Prairie View A&M.... 9 7 11 63.6

RED ZONE OFFENSE G RedZone Percent TDs R/P FG-AT Fumb/Int/Downs/Other
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Southern............ 10 2-2 100.0 2 2/0 0-0 0/ 0/ 0/ 0
Alabama State....... 9 25-26 96.2 19 13/6 6-6 0/ 1/ 0/ 0
Grambling State..... 10 41-49 83.7 34 16/18 7-8 3/ 2/ 1/ 1
Alabama A&M......... 10 27-33 81.8 20 16/4 7-8 3/ 0/ 1/ 1
Alcorn State........ 10 27-37 73.0 18 12/6 9-12 3/ 2/ 1/ 1
Jackson State....... 11 5-7 71.4 5 1/4 0-0 1/ 1/ 0/ 0
Prairie View A&M.... 9 8-12 66.7 7 3/4 1-2 0/ 1/ 2/ 0
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 19-30 63.3 12 6/6 7-12 3/ 1/ 2/ 0
Texas Southern...... 9 15-25 60.0 14 13/1 1-4 2/ 1/ 1/ 3
Miss. Valley State.. 10 8-14 57.1 5 3/2 3-4 0/ 2/ 3/ 0

RED ZONE DEFENSE G RedZone Percent TDs R/P FG-AT Fumb/Int/Downs/Other
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Southern............ 10 1-2 50.0 0 0/0 1-1 0/ 1/ 0/ 0
Alabama A&M......... 10 12-22 54.5 8 2/6 4-4 2/ 1/ 5/ 2
Alabama State....... 9 20-29 69.0 13 8/5 7-9 1/ 2/ 3/ 1
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 21-30 70.0 15 8/7 6-10 0/ 2/ 2/ 1
Texas Southern...... 9 21-30 70.0 16 7/9 5-9 0/ 2/ 2/ 1
Miss. Valley State.. 10 17-24 70.8 14 8/6 3-5 3/ 1/ 1/ 0
Alcorn State........ 10 31-41 75.6 25 15/10 6-10 1/ 2/ 3/ 0
Grambling State..... 10 23-28 82.1 15 8/7 8-9 1/ 1/ 1/ 1
Prairie View A&M.... 9 40-48 83.3 35 28/7 5-6 2/ 1/ 4/ 0
Jackson State....... 11 13-13 100.0 10 9/1 3-3 0/ 0/ 0/ 0

3RD-DN CONVERSIONS G Conv Att Pct
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Grambling State..... 10 64 136 47.1
Southern............ 10 55 121 45.5

Alcorn State........ 10 49 131 37.4
Alabama A&M......... 10 50 138 36.2
Jackson State....... 11 53 161 32.9
Alabama State....... 9 34 106 32.1
Prairie View A&M.... 9 40 128 31.2
Texas Southern...... 9 37 135 27.4
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 37 137 27.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 36 137 26.3

OPP 3RD-DN CONVERT G Conv Att Pct
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Southern............ 10 38 133 28.6
Grambling State..... 10 41 142 28.9

Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 41 141 29.1
Alcorn State........ 10 42 134 31.3
Alabama A&M......... 10 47 147 32.0
Miss. Valley State.. 10 48 139 34.5
Jackson State....... 11 54 148 36.5
Texas Southern...... 9 44 118 37.3
Alabama State....... 9 54 130 41.5
Prairie View A&M.... 9 48 89 53.9

SACKS AGAINST G Sacks Yards
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Southern............ 10 4 30
Alabama A&M......... 10 7 61
Grambling State..... 10 11 53
Alabama State....... 9 13 77
Alcorn State........ 10 17 128
Texas Southern...... 9 18 120
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 21 160
Jackson State....... 11 25 183
Prairie View A&M.... 9 36 211
Miss. Valley State.. 10 41 265

FIELD GOALS G Made Att Pct
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Alabama State....... 9 9 11 .818
Alcorn State........ 10 12 16 .750
Alabama A&M......... 10 10 15 .667
Southern............ 10 6 9 .667
Prairie View A&M.... 9 4 6 .667
Miss. Valley State.. 10 5 8 .625
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 8 13 .615
Grambling State..... 10 9 16 .562
Texas Southern...... 9 7 13 .538
Jackson State....... 11 1 5 .200

PAT KICKING G Made Att Pct
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Prairie View A&M.... 9 11 11 1.000
Alabama State....... 9 35 37 .946
Miss. Valley State.. 10 17 18 .944
Grambling State..... 10 42 45 .933
Southern............ 10 52 56 .929

Alcorn State........ 10 32 35 .914
Jackson State....... 11 21 23 .913
Alabama A&M......... 10 29 32 .906
Texas Southern...... 9 15 17 .882
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 19 25 .760

TIME OF POSSESSION G Total Time Avg/G
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Prairie View A&M.... 9 285:47 31:45
Southern............ 10 305:03 30:30
Grambling State..... 10 302:22 30:14

Alcorn State........ 10 300:33 30:03
Texas Southern...... 9 267:11 29:41
Jackson State....... 11 324:44 29:31
Miss. Valley State.. 10 293:02 29:18
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 292:27 29:14
Alabama State....... 9 254:58 28:19
Alabama A&M......... 10 282:59 28:17

KICKOFF COVERAGE G No. Yards TD Avg
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Miss. Valley State.. 10 22 331 1 15.0
Ark.-Pine Bluff..... 10 39 663 0 17.0
Alabama A&M......... 10 54 968 0 17.9
Alabama State....... 9 48 869 0 18.1
Southern............ 10 52 960 0 18.5
Jackson State....... 11 32 611 0 19.1
Alcorn State........ 10 46 929 1 20.2
Grambling State..... 10 58 1219 0 21.0
Texas Southern...... 9 29 630 1 21.7
Prairie View A&M.... 9 24 657 0 27.4
 
TSPN (SWACPAGE.com) & Cavil's Classic Cuts Football
HBCU Major Program Top 10 Poll (11-10-2003)
Presented By:
The Heritage Group (THG Agency, LLC), A Consulting Sports Management, Agency

Name--------------------Record-1PV-Points-PWR-Last Game-(11-8-2003-W/L-Opp.)
1. Grambling State-----(8-2)--(6)---93----1--(Beat Alabama State, 37-34)
2. Southern------------(9-1)--(2)---83----2--(Beat Lincoln, 34-7)

3. N.C. A & T State----(9-1)--(2)---82----3--(Beat Delaware State, 33-7)
4. Alabama A & M-------(7-3)--------71----5--(Beat Jackson State, 49-14)
5. Bethune-Cookman-----(7-2)--------65----7--(Beat Hampton, 30-27)
6. Florida A & M-------(6-4)--------42----9--(Did Not Play)
7. Hampton-------------(6-3)--------31----4--(Lost to Bethune-Cookman, 30-27)
8. Tennessee State-----(6-4)--------26----6--(Lost to SE Missouri, 52-35)
9. Alabama State-------(5-4)--------17----8--(Lost to Grambling State, 37-34)
10. Alcorn State--------(5-5)--------12----NR-(Beat Miss. Valley State, 23-7)



Sheridan Broadcasting Network Black College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) Record Points
1. Grambling State Tigers (26) 8-2 276
2. North Carolina A&T Aggies (2) 9-1 267
3. Southern Jaguars (2) 9-1 246
4. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 7-2 172
5. Hampton Pirates 6-3 164
6. Alabama A&M Bulldogs 7-3 153
7. Fayetteville State Broncos 7-3 121
8. Florida A&M Rattlers 6-4 82
9. Alabama State Hornets 5-4 52
10. Albany State Rams 8-2 43
Others receiving votes: Tennessee State (28), Fort Valley State (27), South Carolina State (23), Winston-Salem State (18), Kentucky State (15).


As of November 10, 2003, at 05:56 PM ET

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Sports Network/CSTV I-AA College Football Poll
Team (First-place votes) 2003 Record Points Previous Rank
1. McNeese State Cowboys (79) 8-1 2,422 1
2. Southern Illinois Salukis (13) 10-0 2,344 3
3. Massachusetts Minutemen (3) 9-1 2,243 4
4. Wofford Terriers (3) 9-1 2,152 5
5. Montana Grizzlies 8-2 1,940 8
6. Delaware Blue Hens 9-1 1,868 2
7. Colgate Raiders 10-0 1,668 10
8. Penn Quakers 8-0 1,639 9
9. Western Kentucky Hilltoppers 7-3 1,595 12
10. Western Illinois Leathernecks 7-3 1,503 11
11. Northern Iowa Panthers 8-2 1,461 6
12. Grambling State Tigers 8-2 1,392 13
13. Villanova Wildcats 7-2 1,317 7
14. North Carolina A&T Aggies 9-1 1,249 14
15. Florida Atlantic Owls 7-2 1,025 15
16. Bethune-Cookman Wildcats 7-2 991 17
17. Southern Jaguars 9-1 977 16
18. Northern Arizona Lumberjacks 7-3 804 20
19. Fordham Rams 8-2 748 19
20. Cal Poly Mustangs 6-3 288 NR
21. Jacksonville State Gamecocks 6-3 286 NR
22. Northern Colorado Bears 7-2 228 NR
23. Northeastern Huskies 6-4 217 NR
24. Georgia Southern Eagles 6-4 209 NR
25. Furman Paladins 5-4 141 18
Others receiving votes: Lehigh, Alabama A&M, Appalachian State, Gardner-Webb, Idaho State, Maine, Hampton, Harvard, Northwestern State, Nicholls State, Eastern Washington, Stephen F. Austin, Weber State, South Carolina State, Montana State, Monmouth, Alabama State.


As of November 10, 2003, at 01:57 PM ET
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American Sports Wire

Black College Football Poll #11 - November 9, 2003
Compiled by Dick Simpson

School (1st Place votes) Record Points PVS
1. Grambling (19) 8-2 131 1
2. N.C. A&T (3) 9-1 99 2
3. Southern 9-1 90 4
4 Bethune-Cookman 7-2 78 5
5. Alabama A&M 7-3 76 9
6. Tennessee State 6-4 74 3
7. Florida A&M 6-4 73 7
8. Morgan State 5-5 60 6
9. Hampton 6-3 59 8
10. South Carolina State 6-4 58 NR

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ESPN/USA Today Division I-AA Top 25 Poll

The ESPN/USA Today Division I-AA Top 25 college football coaches poll, with number of first-place votes, record in parentheses, total points and last week's ranking:

RANK TEAM RECORD PTS PVS
1. McNeese State (28) 8-1 1,005 1
Last game: Def. Stephen F. Austin 20-17 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Northwestern St. (6-4)

2. Southern Illinois (9) 10-0 983 3
Last game: Def. Youngstown State 24-17 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Northern Iowa (8-2)

3. Massachusetts (1) 9-1 932 4
Last game: Def. Richmond 30-17 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Delaware (9-1)

4. Wofford (3) 9-1 909 5
Last game: Def. East Tenn. St. 28-14 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Furman (5-4)

5. Montana 8-2 810 8
Last game: Def. Sacramento State 26-0 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Eastern Wash. (6-4)

6. Delaware 9-1 777 2
Last game: Lost to Northeastern 24-14 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Massachusetts (9-1)

7. Western Kentucky 7-3 661 9
Last game: Def. Northern Iowa 24-3 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Youngstown State (5-6)

8. Colgate 10-0 651 11
Last game: Def. Lehigh 17-10 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Fordham (8-2)

9. Pennsylvania 8-0 643 12
Last game: Def. Princeton 37-7 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Harvard (6-2)

10. Western Illinois 7-3 642 10
Last game: Def. Indiana State 34-28 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. SMS (4-6)

11. Northern Iowa 8-2 606 6
Last game: Lost to Western Kentucky 24-3 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Southern Illinois (10-0)

12. Grambling 8-2 576 13
Last game: Def. Alabama State 37-34 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Savannah State (0-10)

13. Villanova 7-2 559 7
Last game: Lost to Hofstra 34-32 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Maine (5-4)

14. N. Carolina A&T 9-1 512 14
Last game: Def. Delaware State 33-7 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Hampton (6-3)

15. Fla Atlantic 7-2 467 15
Last game: Def. Gardner Webb 31-26 (Nov. 1)
This week: vs. Siena (0-10)

16. Southern 9-1 419 16
Last game: Def. Lincoln MO 34-7 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Texas Southern (5-4)

17. Bethune Cookman 7-2 393 17
Last game: Def. Hampton 30-27 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Howard (3-6)

18. Northern Arizona 7-3 344 19
Last game: Def. Idaho State 46-31 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Sam Houston St. (2-7)

19. Fordham 8-2 263 21
Last game: Def. Holy Cross 49-28 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Colgate (10-0)

20. Jacksonville St. 6-3 123 NR
Last game: Def. Samford 49-32 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Eastern Illinois (4-6)

21. Cal Poly 6-3 115 NR
Last game: Def. Cal Davis 18-14 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Idaho State (7-4)

22. Northeastern 6-4 107 NR
Last game: Def. Delaware 24-14 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Richmond (2-7)

23. Georgia Southern 6-4 93 NR
Last game: Def. Furman 29-24 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Elon University (2-9)

24. Alabama A&M 7-3 77 NR
Last game: Def. Jackson State 49-14 (Nov. 8)
This week: at Alcorn State (5-5)

25. Northern Colorado 7-2 71 NR
Last game: Def. Southern Utah 29-25 (Nov. 8)
This week: vs. Augustana SD

OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES
Gardner Webb 66, Idaho State 61, Lehigh 59, Appalachian St. 52, Hampton 51, Maine 44, Stephen F. Austin 38, Furman 38, Harvard 36, Nicholls State 35, Eastern Wash. 32, Northwestern St. 28, Weber State 19, South Carolina St 12, Eastern Kentucky 7, The Citadel 4, Tennessee State 3, Alabama State 2.

DROPPED FROM RANKINGS
Furman 18, Idaho State 20, Northwestern St. 22, Harvard 23, Lehigh 24, Hampton 25.
 
I CAN'T WAIT .I DON'T WANT TO SEE NO GREEK SHOW OR BATTLE OF THE BANDS I WANT TO SEETHE GAME.IT WILL COME DOEN TO COACHING MOST DEFINITELY.THIS WILL BE THE BEST CLASSIC IN YEARS IN TERMS OF PURE ENTERTAINMENT AND COMPETITION.
 
Originally posted by STC_60
IT WILL COME DOEN TO COACHING MOST DEFINITELY.THIS WILL BE THE BEST CLASSIC IN YEARS IN TERMS OF PURE ENTERTAINMENT AND COMPETITION.

I totally agree. That means Doug and Company can't come into the dome half stepping!
 
I TOLD SOMEONE IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE COACHING IS AFRAID TO STEP ON FOLKS THROAT WHEN THEY HAVE THEM DOWN. ESPECIALLY AGAINST SU. MAYBE THE FIELD BEING CHANGED WILL HELP OUT ALSO . GRAM IS NOT A TIRF TEAM . HTAY AHVE TURF SPEED BUT ARE MORE ACCUSTOMED TO PLAYING ON GRASS. YOU MAY SEEM THE FULLNESS OF THE RUNING GAME DUE TO THE NEW TURF IN THE FIELD.COACHING WILL SEPRATE WINNERS FROM LOOSERS IN THE CLASSIC.I CAN'T WAIT.I JUST HOPE THE YCOEM OUT SAT AGAINST SAVANNAH ST AND OPEN UP A CAN EARLY.
 
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