I want to open up a discussion about "St. Aug".
For those of you all who may not know. St. Augustine or St. Aug is an all male, historically black school in New Orleans. The school has a long and respectable history within New Orleans. The school is famous for it's band and probably equally as famous or infamous for being all male and it's use of corporal punishment.
Over the last couple of weeks I've had a few discussions with a few people who've run across St. Augustine Alumni and dealt with them as boyfriends, friends, students and employees. This various discussions have lead to me wonder what is really going with that particular school.
As noted above the school does use corporal punishment. Now I understand that much of this forum's population is southern based and because of that many of your political ideologies may sit center-right or right. So to many of you corporal punishment may not be such a big deal. But I'm asking that you think outside of the box. In my opinion the use of corporal punishment on teenage boys is a little too late in life. I feel that at this point teenage students should be dealt with by teachers as people aproaching adult-hood and not 5 year old student.
The school's use of corporal punishment seems fairly antiquated as it is noted on The Center for Effective Discipline that St. Aug is the only Catholic School in the US that still uses corporal punishment, click the link and to find the origin of the words that in quotes.
http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=cpincatholic
For those of you all who may not know. St. Augustine or St. Aug is an all male, historically black school in New Orleans. The school has a long and respectable history within New Orleans. The school is famous for it's band and probably equally as famous or infamous for being all male and it's use of corporal punishment.
Over the last couple of weeks I've had a few discussions with a few people who've run across St. Augustine Alumni and dealt with them as boyfriends, friends, students and employees. This various discussions have lead to me wonder what is really going with that particular school.
As noted above the school does use corporal punishment. Now I understand that much of this forum's population is southern based and because of that many of your political ideologies may sit center-right or right. So to many of you corporal punishment may not be such a big deal. But I'm asking that you think outside of the box. In my opinion the use of corporal punishment on teenage boys is a little too late in life. I feel that at this point teenage students should be dealt with by teachers as people aproaching adult-hood and not 5 year old student.
The school's use of corporal punishment seems fairly antiquated as it is noted on The Center for Effective Discipline that St. Aug is the only Catholic School in the US that still uses corporal punishment, click the link and to find the origin of the words that in quotes.
http://www.stophitting.com/index.php?page=cpincatholic
Here is a video of how corporal punishment is administered at St. Aug.
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As I've said above, I've talked to various people about St. Augustine Alumni and on a few occasions talked to St. Augustine Alumni themselves.
Speaking to an Atlanta woman who dated a St. Augustine graduate, she noted he constantly wanted to hang with this former St. Aug classmates and spent way too much time concerning himself with buying clothes. She also noted that he had a very strange way interacting with her and other women. That same Atlanta woman attended college in New Orleans and was familiar with St. Aug and had previously dated St. Aug students and she pointed out similar idiosyncrasies amongst them.
Speaking to a friend of mine who is a manager at a Rite-Aid, he noted that the few St. Augustine alumni that he's hired that they have been lazy, incompetent, unreliable and immature. Why is this?
Now looking at the St. Aug alumni that know, I myself have noticed that many of them seem to socially lagging in terms of behavior. Entering college with a few of them, they operated as if they were 13 or 14 year olds entering 9th grade as opposed to 17 or 18 year olds entering their Freshman year of college. Loud outbursts, constant ribbing or joking and pretty soon most of them would be gone by mid year. Those that remained were painfully shy.
Now looking all of this, I'm left to wonder about St. Augustine.
Does a school that uses corporal punishment on teenagers in all-boy setting arrest the social development of young men? Are these boys being socially frozen at age 14 upon entering St. Aug and thawing out upon graduation as an 18 year old with the mindset of a 14 year old?
One thing that I hear fairly often from some teenage boys who attend St. Aug is "I don't want to go here, it's just my mama is making me go". (mostly Parents opting to send their sons to St. Aug due to problems or perceived problems in New Orleans Public school system)
Which leads me to wonder how many young men are at St. Aug that do not want to be there and because of that they respond negatively and preform academically worse than they would otherwise.
After looking at all of this...
Would you still opt to send you son here?
And Should St. Aug consider rebooting it's manner of educating young men?
I know this is not everybody, but when you've seen something over and over and over and began to notice a pattern, maybe something is wrong and maybe action needs to be taken to correct it..
Speaking to an Atlanta woman who dated a St. Augustine graduate, she noted he constantly wanted to hang with this former St. Aug classmates and spent way too much time concerning himself with buying clothes. She also noted that he had a very strange way interacting with her and other women. That same Atlanta woman attended college in New Orleans and was familiar with St. Aug and had previously dated St. Aug students and she pointed out similar idiosyncrasies amongst them.
Speaking to a friend of mine who is a manager at a Rite-Aid, he noted that the few St. Augustine alumni that he's hired that they have been lazy, incompetent, unreliable and immature. Why is this?
Now looking at the St. Aug alumni that know, I myself have noticed that many of them seem to socially lagging in terms of behavior. Entering college with a few of them, they operated as if they were 13 or 14 year olds entering 9th grade as opposed to 17 or 18 year olds entering their Freshman year of college. Loud outbursts, constant ribbing or joking and pretty soon most of them would be gone by mid year. Those that remained were painfully shy.
Now looking all of this, I'm left to wonder about St. Augustine.
Does a school that uses corporal punishment on teenagers in all-boy setting arrest the social development of young men? Are these boys being socially frozen at age 14 upon entering St. Aug and thawing out upon graduation as an 18 year old with the mindset of a 14 year old?
One thing that I hear fairly often from some teenage boys who attend St. Aug is "I don't want to go here, it's just my mama is making me go". (mostly Parents opting to send their sons to St. Aug due to problems or perceived problems in New Orleans Public school system)
Which leads me to wonder how many young men are at St. Aug that do not want to be there and because of that they respond negatively and preform academically worse than they would otherwise.
After looking at all of this...
Would you still opt to send you son here?
And Should St. Aug consider rebooting it's manner of educating young men?
I know this is not everybody, but when you've seen something over and over and over and began to notice a pattern, maybe something is wrong and maybe action needs to be taken to correct it..
