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He really believes this mess....

MH,

Please leave TP alone so he can stop lying to himself. He is starting to really believe and we don't want him to dissappear after we see the truth. Three of Four games at the beginning of the season are almost sure loses.

Who's walking the "Green Mile", now?

wezain'tontheirlevel, man!

TP, maybe you should send those thugs to prayer meeting. It seems that all the atheletes can really do at jsu is fight and then throw up gangs signs!

Represent your SET!!! Bia Biaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! :lol:
 
TP,
So be it, but I hope you're counting jsue as part of the "weak" teams on our schedule. I mean, a team who gives up 61, 64, and 42 must be weak as heck. Don't you agree? :snicker:
 



Mike, you still have not told me why JSU is going to lose to SU, A&T, USM and TNState. Besides, the ONLY reason why you all will not be losing to all four of them is that you all don't have the balls or name recogition to get a schedule like this.

JSU is not scared of single team on our schedule...and agian, didn't you all say that we would not beat TNState and Southern in 2000? Didn't you all say that we wouldn't beat AAMU, SU and UAPB in 2001? Who cares what you all think. YOU ALL ARE ALWAYS WRONG!!!!!!!

Mike, I am waiting for your response. Tell me what you know about any of our first four opponents and be sure to use at least one "fooball" term. :confused:
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
TP,
So be it, but I hope you're counting jsue as part of the "weak" teams on our schedule. I mean, a team who gives up 61, 64, and 42 must be weak as hell. Don't you agree? :snicker:
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But MH, what about a team that gave up 58? I don't get it. Do you know that Kennedy is gone?
 
The football term will be "Lose Column"

You just don't realize that you are on the "Green Mile".

TP, How will you beat your first four opponents? If you can answer that convincingly I will try my best to answer any question you ask me for the next 5 months. After that, I doubt you will be on the boards smacking. You will be telling us how your schedule was tougher than any of the other team in the SWAC and that's why you lost!
 
Originally posted by Tigerpride


The problem I have with Mike is that he will say something like, his team will be better because they went to prayer meeting last night. :rolleyes:
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This is why I love this board....the comedy is priceless.

Mike

Who are we going to lose to in Sept and why?
 
Mike,

I have given IN-DEPTH reasons why we can beat our early season opponents. The only team I did not mention is USM. I think they have an advantage over us in depth and coaching. I don't think any other team has that advantage. You don't honestly think I am going to go back through that analysis for someone who is going to come back with NOTHING?

Again, tell me what A&T, TNState, and SU are bringing to the table. I might not know that we are walking "The Green Mile" but at least I can tell you why I don't think it. Just give me some A&T, TNState, and SU positives and I PROMISE I will give you the breakdown you are looking for. I know GR....wishful thinking.:rolleyes:
 
LOL @ this thread! MH, killin the Mafia. What is interesting is how posters absorb some of these Mafia statements (i.e. Buffalo has all this talent). Maybe, a few key players, but as a cohesive unit -- J-State is average. All I can go on is what I saw in October of 2001. I can not reiterate this enough, but I believe Gram's second string could have beaten J-State last year. A talented team can find a way to win big games. A talented team can stop an opponent from gaining 40 yds per kickoff return. A talented team should be able to get some pressure on the QB. A talented team should be able to defend a repetitiously ran "out pattern." I think Levi, obviously Denmark, and Kalvin Pearson made All-SWAC status in this one game. More importantly, a combination of an average team and dumb @$$ coaches spell doom. A coach should have been able to make adjustments (again in last year's game) -- like creating a mismatch with a WR and LBer; unless Buffalo's WRs can run better routes I personally have no concern with J-State -- not with this staff.

On the other hand, I like Coles. I like his play-calling. His use of draw-plays, short and deep passes really move the ball. This guy has a system, and he wins. If he can replace his talent pool, I will never count him out.

Grambling will come out the West. All I will say is we are back. We are really bout to run this thing. The BC will become a formality once again. SU is not winning the recruiting battle in the boot. Everyone is on Alcorn this year, but Thomas teams are just too inconsistent. To be blown off the field by an extremely average J-State team is not impressive.

Gram/West -- Alabama St. or J-State in the East. Personally, I would be shamed if my alma mater can not make it to B-Ham being in the SWAC East.

I like the G-MEN because our experience is on the defensive side of the ball. Our defense does not allow many points (about 19.5 ppg). Thus, our D creates turnovers. Up front and our secondary are strong. They will have to carry the load. Remember all Brian Morgan needs is the 30 yd line, and he is automatic. Recall Icon Gram still has the best returning special teams in the SWAC. Key phrase is we have a system. Relative to the state of the rest of the SWAC, Bruce Eugene will be able to score this amount.
 
fyi:

In the 2000 season, teams had the following going in to the 2001 season.

Grambling:
Lettermen returning: 37
Lettermen lost: 16
Starters returning: 15
Starters lost: 7


alcorn:
Lettermen returning: 66
Lettermen lost: 8
Starters returning: 18
Starters lost: 6

pv:
Lettermen Returning: 32
Lettermen lost: ??
Starters returning: 13
Starters lost: 14

uapb
lettermen returning: ??
Lettermen lost: ??
Staters returning: 19
Starters lost: 7

su
lettermen returning: 44
lettermen lost: 21
starters returning: 18
starters lost: ??

bama st.
lettermen returning: 29
lettermen lost: 19
starters returning: 13
starters lost: 9

valley
lettermen returning: 48
lettermen lost: 14
starters returning: 9
starters lost: 13

jsu:
Lettermen returning: 47
Lettermen lost: 20
Starters returning: 14
Starters lost: 9
 
Mach, didn;t Gram lose 7 starters on defense alone?? How are you all counting starters? I guess if a guy was hurt one week and someone else started in his place, you all call him a starter? :confused:
 
GSUperTiger,

Gram's first string had to struggle to beat JSU. Yes, you all had a decent team but the straw that broke our backs was our coaches decision not to run the clock at the half. As I said immediately after the game. I was not impressed. Your talent has nothing to do with those seven points before the half. Then your offense went to score only once more against the JSU defense after having good field position on several occasions. Your offense was garbage. How could a second sting do any better.
 
TP,

Don't be sweating these clowns. GStUpe know damn well talent had nothing to do with Gram's win. He just talking out the side of his neck (que the World Famed). And as for mighty hornet and Mike, dude don't bother yourself. You know Annie Mae can't score in a hoe house. And we know what the bees will have without Kennedy. It's just like when Alcorn had McNair. All offense. Absolutely no defense. Now they ain't got no offense either.

Like a tale told by an idiot. Full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Shakesphere send help.
 
Originally posted by Tigerpride

Yes, you all had a decent team but the straw that broke our backs was our coaches decision not to run the clock at the half.
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I guess the coached told Kint to throw 5 interceptiions too huh?
 
Originally posted by Tigerpride
GSUperTiger,

Gram's first string had to struggle to beat JSU. Yes, you all had a decent team but the straw that broke our backs was our coaches decision not to run the clock at the half. As I said immediately after the game. I was not impressed. Your talent has nothing to do with those seven points before the half. Then your offense went to score only once more against the JSU defense after having good field position on several occasions.
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KNEE GROW PLEASE!! MORE Lynch Sreet _ _ _ _!!!!

Your team was garbarge. No coaching, no special teams, no defense, no running game= 30-16. The first jsu TD was a another interception, which would have made 7 for K"int". the jsu receiver pushed our corner in the back, he still almost got it, but unfornately tried to catch the ball while falling down and tipped it up.... Result...XMAS in October for jsu... oh well. We didn't want to run up the clock on Miss-slaw-sippi!!!
 



That remedial ass offense of Gram's couldn't run up on the score if we'd have had blind men on the field. Hell you had about 8 turnovers, and only scored 30 points. You had to fake a punt to score once. You needed JW and crew to give you a TD at the end of the half. But y'all didn't wanna run up the score???

I guess those are Ruston lies.
 
Get Ready,<br>I can somewhat agree about the QB, but I don't think Carrie is a level where he is going to dominate a game. As far as Southern, we have won with Quarterbacks that you do not not have a high opinion of, so what's new thier. With the new OC, our QB doesn't have to be a star.<br>As far as running backs go, we are loaded. We have Singleton back, and I don't need to tell you about him, he gained over 100 yards on yall in the mud, plus 3 more high quality backs. At receiver, Hayes is back, but we got lots more talent there.<br> Coaching starts at the head coach. Assistants are important, and can make a difference despite a sorry head coach, but it starts at the head. Pete is a proven winner, no matter who the assistants are.<br>We have a system. Pete plays a lot of players, so a lot of players that don't start get so much playing time that when it is time to step up, they are ready. I notice you did not comment on the fact that JSU barely beat us but blew Alcorn out, and SU blew out Ala State and Alcorn barely beat them, etc.
 
Originally posted by Robber
That remedial ass offense of Gram's couldn't run up on the score if we'd have had blind men on the field. Hell you had about 8 turnovers, and only scored 30 points. You had to fake a punt to score once. You needed JW and crew to give you a TD at the end of the half. But y'all didn't wanna run up the score???

I guess those are Ruston lies.
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LSL!!!!

28 first downs, 307 yards passing, 6 of 14 (43%) on 3rd downs and you really only scored 7 points. Manning didn't beat our man for the TD (everybody saw what happened, it was a gift) and then we gave you the saftey with 35 seconds left in the game. 30 -7 looks like a blow out to me!!!!:bawling:
 
Mach, thats a real objective way to look at the game. Guess it wont do me any good to address this.


Originally posted by Lewis
. I notice you did not comment on the fact that JSU barely beat us but blew Alcorn out, and SU blew out Ala State and Alcorn barely beat them, etc.
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I dont understand the question. Some teams play other teams better and so on and so on. You beat Bama without Kennedy....so I dont know how much you want to draw from that.
 
Mach, MY OPINION IS MY OPINION and you can see things however you want to. If in fact Kent had thrown to ball to Manning and it bounced off his chest into your DB's hand, you would be saying that Manning can't catch. Whether the ball was tipped or not, he did what he had to do. The score of the game was 10-7 after the first quarter and 17-7 going into the half until Hughes decided not to run the clock out. I can't blame Gram for Hughes stupidity for punting out of the endzone when we did not have a quality punter but that was a much bigger factor in the game than even Kent's 6 int's because Gram did not capitalize on them. Gram did not have to offensive power to captialize. The reason I say that that incident was so important is because JSU held Gram scoreless in the 3rd quarter but we scored which would have made the game 17-14 going into the 4th quarter rather than 24-14. Thank JW cause your team was certainly not impressive. If an offense can only score three TD's off of their normal possesions and 6 additional possessions from turnovers, they are sad. What is your offense going to do now. You are depleted.

...MACH, how can you list SU as having 18 returning starters but put ?? by starters lost. I will answer that that lost 12-13 starters at least. Some of their second string scrubs could have played after the JSU game but those are not starters. They struggled against PV for crying out loud and embarrassed BCF on national TV. Those are not starters. If so,:D .
 
Originally posted by Get Ready

I dont understand the question. Some teams play other teams better and so on and so on. You beat Bama without Kennedy....so I dont know how much you want to draw from that.
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This also explains how that porous defense was ranked first in the SWAC. Without Kennedy and Carrie dropping bombs on you, your pass defense automatically improves.

Southern, ya'll suck.
 
Originally posted by Tigerpride
MACH, how can you list SU as having 18 returning starters but put ?? by starters lost. I will answer that that lost 12-13 starters at least. Some of their second string scrubs could have played after the JSU game but those are not starters. They struggled against PV for crying out loud and embarrassed BCF on national TV.
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EASY....I USED THE JSU MEDIA GUIDE AND THE INFORMATION. WAS INCOMPLETE :idea:




I GUESS THIS IS ANOTHER CASE OF THE SO-CALLED BETTER TEAM LOSING?!?!?!?
 
What y'all are forgetting is the Kennedy DID play against us in Mobile. It was his first game back and he did nothing!

TP, Mach is closer than you think with his numbers. Remember, all of the injuries we had made us play more, and YOUNGER players all year. That's why we have a lot of starters back. On offense, we lost Levy, T. Williams (non-starter and injured) D. Lewis, Gallien and maybe a lineman or two. We lost no running backs and the SR TE (T. Dowell) we had was not a starter. (Unless you want to count Perkins and A.Williams as starting RB's, which they weren't.)

Defense, we lost one or two d-line men (Landry is the one I can remember most.), One Linebacker (Chapman), and maybe one guy in the secondary, but with Arnold, Williams at CB and the returning group (probably one of our deepest positions), we will be fine.

On special teams and kicking, we only lost Villagrana and we received Mattingly back (which makes Villagarana's departure a wash), Colby Miller, and another young kicker from Mississippi.

So, where are all of these starters we lost?

Watch the fire in your own kitchen TP before y'all burn the massa's house down .....
 
Originally posted by SU Jag 79
What y'all are forgetting is the Kennedy DID play against us in Mobile. It was his first game back and he did nothing!
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YOu played him early before he got started. You know damn well he woulda abused yall just like he did in 2000.
 
Fact is period, point blank, we played against him and he did NOTHING, PERIOD!

It ain't our fault that he couldn't get he isht together. It wasn't too long after that that he played you guys, right? What happened GR?

BTW, even in mid-season form, he would not have beat us that night. His offensive line was not protecting for him like they did in Baton Rouge the previous year. Plus, after the beating we got in BR that year, you knew payback was coming hard.
 
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