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Since pretty much all of you have stated your cases as to why you think your schools will be SWAC champions this year, please state who your team will face from the opposing division in the SCG this year.

What makes the team you will face in the SCG stand out from the rest in its division.

Please...no smack. I know this is asking a lot. :rolleyes:
 
SOG,

I don't think that posters from team other than AlaState, Gram, JSU, and SU have made claim to their respective divisions.

However, as much as I want to play SU in B'ham, I think that JSU will play Gram. Grambling will struggle early with a loss to Alcorn (the second best team in the EAST) and a loss to JSU and SU will suffer a early loss to JSU. The only way SU goes to B'ham is to beat GSU in the BC but by then the "week later" theory will have taken over and a struggling Gram will have found an identity. I don't think SU has the talent of the depth to make it.
 



Wow

Great question...to which I dont have an answer. The Soul Bowl and the BC will determine the SCG. JSU and Alcorn should be the best 2 teams in the SWAC, but we are in teh same division. Maybe we can institute MDs plan after all.

Who is the best between SU and GSU in these lean years....only time will tell. I cant even lean towards anybody. Why dont you tell us why you think you will beat SU.
 
Wow....good question!

In the East...I think it will come down to JSU and Alcorn. Bama St. I think will again make a run, but I just don't see them making it back to SCG this season. JSU has the experience. Something that almost everyone else in the SWAC will be lacking. Alcorn I think is the SWAC's darkhorse. they will be the team that no one expects to win, but they played their butts off last year, and they are retaining alot of talent.

In the West.....I think once again it will come down to GSU and SU. I just don't see anyone else making apuch. But unlike everyone else. I don't the BC will be the deciding factor. The West will be decided well before the BC.

SCG 4
JSU/Alcorn/Bama St v. GSU/SU
 
Suge, Southern does not play Alcorn or AlaState. The BC will have to be a factor. In fact, SU has a better shot because Gram has to get past Alcorn, AlaState, and JSU. Southern only has to get past JSU before the BC. Who else is going to beat Southern? Are you counting on TxSo? A&P? PV? Valley?UAPB? I don't think AlaState will pose a threat this year but I can tell by your post that you agree that Gram has a real good chance of losing to Alcorn early.
 
alcorn or bama...dayum

Well TP, that sort of changes things. I didn't realize that SU didn't play Alcorn this season. I knew they didn't pay Bama St, but not Alcorn. That means all they have to do is beat GSU and JSU to make the SCG. That does change somethings. I do believe TxSU will give them a battle though.

But on Alcorn...I don't think they will beat us. I just can't see it, but I have to be real and say they have the talent to beat us. But I believe that Alcorn has a team that can beat anybody at anytime. And that includes JSU, GSU, and Bama St. And considering they don't have to play SU, that only improves their chances of making it to the SCG. If they can win 2 of these 3 games, and beat the teams that they should beat. They can sit back and let the rest of us cancel each other out and they will be in B-ham.

But the same can be said for JSU as well. Beat 2 of the 3.....SU, Alcorn, Bama St. And you have punched your B-ham ticket too!
 
Alcorn has Gram, UAPB and PV from the West. They play UAPB in the season opener which I think is in their favor. If they get past Gram, they appear to have inside track early in the season. However, just as predict Gram to improve as the season progresses, I predict things will catch up to Alcorn as te season progresses. They won't beat JSU simply because their depth and talent is not quite where it needs to be yet.
 
Well I think in the East it will come down to JSU vs Bama St. I think Alcorn will surprise folks this year, but they will not sneak up on folks. I think all the coaches know not to take them lightly. So Alcorn will be a marked team. Now in saying that. If Alcorn gets through their schedule before playing JSU, they could find themselves playing JSU for the right to go B-ham. I would love playing JSU in the SCG, just because those games are just the hypest of SWAC games.

As far as the West goes, I have to refute TP and say we(SU) are by far the deepest team in the West on the number of players we have coming back that had to play last year due to injuries. We had very few seniors last year and 3 of which have been granted eligibilty to come back this year. So if we lose to GSU it will not be because of depth. That game is always about who wants it more and attitude. But unless GSU and SU stumbles twice in the SWAC before meeting each other. The BC will determine the winner of the West. Unless TxSU can upset GSU or SU or both.


JSU/Bama St vs SU/GSU is what I think will happen. With Alcorn being the wild card that could change the East. I just think ole LC Cole and his brother will be heard from. JSU/Bama St game is the game of year in the East.
 
The CCC will almost certainly decide the East. I think JSU's experience and new-found fire on defense gives us the edge, though. In the west, I have to give SU the edge over Grambling. From the sheer fact they don't have to play eastern contenders Alcorn and Bama State, they have an easier road to Birmingham. In addition, SU returns a more experienced team, which can only strengthen their cause.
 
In the east, I see JSU as the favorate going in, with the main challengers Ala State and Alcorn. Last year, Alcorn snuck up on some people and got Ala State without Kenedy. This year they won't be sneaking up on anyone. Another factor may be the MCC. Although , AAMU probably won't be that good, A classic grudge match like this can go either way. A slip here by Ala State could open the door for the JSU/Alcorn winner. <br><br>The west will be between SU and Grambling. I don't believe the the best teams this year are in the east. The best 3 teams in the SWAC are JSU, Grambling and Southern. I think that the SWAC championship will be decided at the Bayou Classic.
 
I KNOW THAT SPRING GAMES DO HOLD THAT MUCH WEIGHT, BUT AS FAR AS THE ALCORN VS GRAMBLING IT WON'T EVEN BE SERIOUS. IF ALCORN IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE EXPERIENCE RETUNING THEN IT WASN'T ON DISPLAY DURING THE SPRING GAME.
 
Originally posted by Lewis
. The best 3 teams in the SWAC are JSU, Grambling and Southern. I think that the SWAC championship will be decided at the Bayou Classic.
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What is your logic behind this? Why do you think you are better than Alcorn?
 
Why is that no one else sees this depth that SU has.

Mach, actually I think that Alcorn returns more starters than anyone else but I don't think their starters are all that talented. If Alcorn can take advantage of their experience early in the season, that will take them a long way. Alcorn is still going to return at least 15 starters in 2003. They will be a force but I think that their talent level needs to be taken up a notch.

LC Coles schedule works in his favor. If he can manage to get his team on the right track before the JSU, he can take it all the way again but I just don't see how any team in the EAST or the SWAC can beat JSU in 2002.
 



Originally posted by Tigerpride
Why is that no one else sees this depth that SU has.

LC Coles schedule works in his favor. If he can manage to get his team on the right track before the JSU, he can take it all the way again but I just don't see how any team in the EAST or the SWAC can beat JSU in 2002.
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Heard it all beforeeeeeeeeeee........:rolleyes:
 
GR,
Come on man. I know Alcorn has improved, but besides Donald Carrie and some other players, they are not ready to beat SU. I just think my team way deeper than the Corn and have more experience. I know you keep harping on Richard this and Richard aint that. But when has SU ever relied on a QB to win the game by himself. Our Defense which improved greatly last year will be even better. We just have too many returning players for SU not to be able to beat Alcorn. Of course we will not find out unless we both meet up in the SCG. But I agree with Lewis. I bet if you polled the SWAC coaches they would say the same thing. SU and GSU in the West and JSU and Bama St in the East. I am not even sure Alcorn can beat Bama St. Whether you like Cole or not. He can coach his azz off and he can find talent. So I rate Alcorn being the 5th best team in the SWAC. We'll find out right off the bat. When they play GSU. We'll know then if they are for real. Hell looking at September for alot of us we will know who is going to be the teams to beat. There are some questions about all of the top teams this year. Whether we admit it or not. It will come down to who answers them the best.
 
5th best?

My list
JSU
Alcorn
Bama State
Grambling/SU
Irrelevant others

How do you get 5th place? I guess you think SUs defense is going to carry them again. Oh well...
 
GR,

I don't know about putting BAMA Jelly above Gram. At least I believe that Gram has talent even though they are depleted in experience. What does LC have?? How is he going to get recruits to come to AlaState. At least TNState had name recognition. Before now, he could promise them D1A ball.

JSU
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Alcorn
Grambling
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Southern.
AlaState

The rest don't matter....and when LC leaves in about two years, it will be back to the BIG 3 1/2. :lmao:
 
TP,
Please tell me what SU lost last year. When they had to play underclassmen in alot areas because of injuries and previous graduations to players like All-SWAC Edreece Brown going into last year. Devin Lewis and Robert Chapman were our biggest loss from last year. Levy played hurt most of the year before going out against Valley for the season, so his leadership will be missed, but we already had to do that last year. So why is SU not deep. Did you not read my post on Gr's previous thread. I guess since you guys don't want to acknowledge who we have returning they don't matter? Man that pisses me off to no end to discredit our kids you know nothing about, but in the same token pump yours up . No freshmen may not even hit the field this year at SU. TP logic as usual.
 
Actually GR, the offense will be more balanced and with an experienced WR corp coming back, we will be able to score. Remember Hayes makes a QB look good. I know folks sit here an just think Hayes is going to be a shell of himself. But that's wishful thinking. Actually I hope your coaches think like you do and let him just roam free like he is 50 years old coming off knee surgery. You guys are really selling him short. Needless to say that is quite fine with me. Keep on thinking SU is so sad this year. I 've been hearing we've had a sad Qb since Randall left. This is nothing new. I tell you what don't even include SU in the contenders list. GSU will rep the West. We'll be lucky to go 3-9. How that be.
 
JR,

It does not matter who you have coming back because you did not have much. I hate to say this to you but I will tell you the same thing I have told AAMU for years now. Bringing back a bunch of sorry losers is not a good thing. Basically, as you can read, the entire SWAC has lost faith in you. Your team is struggling and still trying to find an identity. The only reason I am putting SU above BAMA State is because you all do bring heart to the table. But both of you are talentless in 2002.
 
JR, but when you had Randle and others, you had Vite. You know dayum well that someway, somehow those defensive stats are deceiving. You know that last year's defense does not compare to a Vite defense. I know you are saying that had the top defense last year but you did not play Kennedy and Carrie. You all skated.

Also, is it wishful thinking on our part or your part about Hayes? Besides, the last time JSU played Hayes, SU lost and the boy was healthy so why should we care. Who says your offense is going to be more balanced. I thinking you are reaching a WHOLE lot JR.
 
TP,
How can say SU is talent less? Are you at the practices? Do you realize Pete has more All-State kids than he has ever had on his roster? Come on your logic doesn't wash. If we had no talent we would have went 2-9 last year when all the injuries started happening. Come bruh. I am starting think my frat Mike is right about you. Have you not read the last two recruiting classes bios? It is obvious you think La athletes suck. ThatI can see. So Hayes is sad, Lenny Williams is sad? Plain and Joubert are sad too? What about All-SWAC OL K. Jenkins is he sad too. No talent. We here that every year. Same ole thing no talent. So kids are just scrubs I guess. SO tell me TP how come the great JSU can never run these kids off the field like you do Alcorn. But we aint as good as ASU. Man please. That's a bunch of BS. I am going to agree with Mike. You don't know ish about football. If you coached JSU they wouldn't win a damn game. I can't believe you even opened your pie hole up to say some ish like you type. I am done.
 
TP, Vite was not the end all be all for SU. Don't believe the hype.

You say we didn't play Kennedy and Carrie, but we did play Kent right. He is the best? Right. BTW Kennedy played albeit he was rusty, but he played. Now back to Kent. Since he is the best and SU didn't allow him to throw for 500 zillion yards and did cause him to be beat up for you loss against GSU the following week. Yeah I say we skated by.:rolleyes:

That's why they play the games. I wonder when Alcorn drops a few games early will you mofos being on here hollering about how good they are. Remember Dr. Thomas is still their coach. We'll see. Just keep on thinking that I am reaching. I know we got some studs playing at SU. But you don't have to beleive me. You'll see soon enough. I promise you.
 
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