Miles played Stillman with 40 players dressed...WTF


DAHILL

DAHILL

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Stillman rolls past short-handed Miles College
Monday, September 01, 2008
MIKE PERRIN
News staff writer

full article@http://www.al.com/sports/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/sports/122025697233140.xml&coll=2

The Billy Joe Era at Miles College that was launched with such hope two weeks before Christmas got off to a dismal start on Sunday night at Legion Field.

The Golden Bears played without more than half their roster in a 38-12 loss to Stillman College before a crowd of 25,370.

Joe said he found out on Saturday that he would be able to dress only 40 of his 85-man roster for the Labor Day Golden Classic due to concerns the Miles administration raised about eligibility issues.


"In my 31 years as a head coach," Joe said, "I've never, ever been confronted with that issue before. I thought our guys played a great game with their hands tied behind their backs.

"We had to change our special teams around, our offense, our defense. We were very, very, very - how many `verys' can I use? - short."

The new coaching staff held meetings with their players until late Saturday evening, making changes in the game plan.

"It's amazing that we had almost a whole summer camp of wasted time because we had to change everything around overnight," Joe said. "We had almost all new faces who had never been in there. Yesterday afternoon, I only had four offensive linemen who could play."

The Bears had to switch to a three-man defensive front, Joe said, because of a lack of defensive linemen and then teach the scheme overnight.

Miles Athletics Director Augustus James said the administration wanted to err on the side of caution so as not to jeopardize the season.

"We just want to be sure," he said. "We had some questions, so we had to hold them out. It was an in-house situation and there were a few questions with the (NCAA) Clearinghouse. I think it was the best thing for us to do."
 
I just don't understand HBCU's lately. Why are we having such a problem with compliance issues lately? I'm not getting it.
 



CEE DOG said:
I just don't understand HBCU's lately. Why are we having such a problem with compliance issues lately? I'm not getting it.
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(Borrowing a term for the 90's) We need to stop the madness, for real. What is so hard about this compliance job?
 
BluPearl98 said:
(Borrowing a term for the 90's) We need to stop the madness, for real. What is so hard about this compliance job?
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Hell na its something else going on.... we got 3 transfers who have been given the run around...practiced, then held out of practice... was told Monday they were clear... practiced the entire week then told Thursday night that they would have to be held out again. They are in grad school, they have already graduated. I dont see what the problem is. That is three STARTERS.
 
DAHILL said:
Hell na its something else going on.... we got 3 transfers who have been given the run around...practiced, then held out of practice... was told Monday they were clear... practiced the entire week then told Thursday night that they would have to be held out again. They are in grad school, they have already graduated. I dont see what the problem is. That is three STARTERS.
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Messed up Adminisration making sure their friends and families get to play over others. I'll tell you, these knee-grows are something else. Politics at HBCUs are worst then any.
 
CEE DOG said:
I just don't understand HBCU's lately. Why are we having such a problem with compliance issues lately? I'm not getting it.
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I am not getting it either. OK, I know that when it comes to staffing the big schools have the advantage in money. Yes, the NCAA has a lot of rules. But something else must be happening. During the pre-Internet days, I do not think that HBCUs had this many problems. But now the problems are almost to be expected.

:confused: :confused: :confused:
 
The NCAA needs to figure out how to handle these issues quicker, and schools need to make requests earlier.
 
EB said:
I am not getting it either. OK, I know that when it comes to staffing the big schools have the advantage in money. Yes, the NCAA has a lot of rules. But something else must be happening. During the pre-Internet days, I do not think that HBCUs had this many problems. But now the problems are almost to be expected.

:confused: :confused: :confused:
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The internet is making exposure to a problem that already existed. Don't blame the internet.
 
JAG89 said:
The internet is making exposure to a problem that already existed. Don't blame the internet.
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No, I am not blaming it on the Internet. I am saying that some problems that we are having now are happening seemingly much more often now than let's say 30 years ago. Now, I do realize that politics has been a problem for decades. True, a lot of times the wrong people have been hired at HBCUs. But these compliance issues are beyond belief.
 
HBCUs alumni need to use the internet more to expose a lot of unethical crap at their colleges and universities. Before the internet, HBCUs alumni were basically left in the dark. Internet sights like this one are a great start.
 
EB said:
No, I am not blaming it on the Internet. I am saying that some problems that we are having now are happening seemingly much more often now than let's say 30 years ago. Now, I do realize that politics has been a problem for decades. True, a lot of times the wrong people have been hired at HBCUs. But these compliance issues are beyond belief.
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You answer your own question and the problems were always there. The internet is exposing a lot of this crap. I'll hate to image what they did before the internet.
 



The NCAA is running a tighter ship with the clearinghouse history and compliance issues. The major problem is the fact that we are still trying to run the athletic department compliance officer as a one man/woman position as we have done in past which was difficult task at best. But now that it has become such an issue, especially with NCAA recertification it has become a bigger issue and budgetary cost component. Just consider all of the NCAA violations that have been issues to SWAC schools and various programs over the last couple of years. I am not sure if there is one school that has not had at least one program hit with the compliance issue (lately it was in the non-revenue Olympics sports so we did not give it much credence).

We simply still do not want to believe the cost associated with operating a Division I athletic program and the fact that most of our institutions either do not have or are not willing to pay the cost operate a fully run athletic program.
 
DAHILL said:
Hell na its something else going on.... we got 3 transfers who have been given the run around...practiced, then held out of practice... was told Monday they were clear... practiced the entire week then told Thursday night that they would have to be held out again. They are in grad school, they have already graduated. I dont see what the problem is. That is three STARTERS.
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Dahill, this may explain y'all situation.

The Alabama State Compliance Office announces that the NCAA has deemed graduate receiver Keon Humphries (Montgomery, AL/Mississippi State) eligible, effective immediately.

Humphries will be traveling to Tallahassee with the ASU football team that leaves Montgomery at 1 p.m. Friday. The team will face the Florida A & M Rattlers at Bragg Memorial Stadium Saturday in the first game of the season. Kick off is at 6 p.m. EST.

The Humphries situation centered around NCAA Bylaw 14.5.5.2.10 One Time Transfer Exception. The bylaw basically states that a transfer student-athletes from an institution that sponsors bowl subdivision football to an institution that sponsors championship subdivision football must have at least two seasons of eligibility remaining. Humphries only has one, thus a special waiver needed to be filed on his behalf.

"The key factor to the success of the waiver was demonstrating the difference between the Master of Science Degree of Sociology at Mississippi State University and our Master of Education Degree in Social Science. We are very thankful for the NCAA's assistance during this process," said Associate Athletic Director of Compliance Monique Holland.

http://bamastatesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082908aac.html
 
Jafus (Thinker) said:
The NCAA is running a tighter ship with the clearinghouse history and compliance issues. The major problem is the fact that we are still trying to run the athletic department compliance officer as a one man/woman position as we have done in past which was difficult task at best. But now that it has become such an issue, especially with NCAA recertification it has become a bigger issue and budgetary cost component. Just consider all of the NCAA violations that have been issues to SWAC schools and various programs over the last couple of years. I am not sure if there is one school that has not had at least one program hit with the compliance issue (lately it was in the non-revenue Olympics sports so we did not give it much credence).

We simply still do not want to believe the cost associated with operating a Division I athletic program and the fact that most of our institutions either do not have or are not willing to pay the cost operate a fully run athletic program.
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Frat,

Answer this one question. Why is it so hard to hire a second person?

It seem to me a comp officer is not making that much so to hire a asst comp officer would be worthwhile.
 
What Jafus said. Plus in alot of cases it's the NCAA playing politics not the schools. Besides how in the hell Miles got 85 players with 36 schollys that some hella splitting.
 
bigtyme2 said:
What Jafus said. Plus in alot of cases it's the NCAA playing politics not the schools. Besides how in the hell Miles got 85 players with 36 schollys that some hella splitting.
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How many players do you think D2 schools have?
 
first of all..you got to have someone who knows compliance over there....secondly, you got to read the book...

lastly...the registrar has to sign off also so even if compliance says yes....registrar may say no
 
The whole situation is messed up. At least they were able to be competitive when the yhad an extreme disadvantage
 
Delock (Frat),

I do not believe we view the value of a compliance officer. I am sure Texas Southern University's athletic administration will do everything in their power to support the compliance officer even if means providing additional help (i.e. I would suggest that this would be an additional role of the athletic academic advisor/assistant compliance officer).
 
the band fan said:
first of all..you got to have someone who knows compliance over there....secondly, you got to read the book...

lastly...the registrar has to sign off also so even if compliance says yes....registrar may say no
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add the Chairperson of the Department.
 
Just a thought, but if we have all these transfers coming into the SWAC and MEAC, they will improve the quality of play in our conferences. Players at D1A schools may not get an opportunity to play because of depth may recognize there are many opportunities to play at the D1A level. But if the NCAA make it difficult for them to become eligible these D1As may not ask for a transfer.

It has been stated that some schools have 15-20 D1A Transfers which means that these programs are going to be very competative. Maybe we need to market the Athletic Program to the faculty.
 
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