Low Black Male graduation rate-fault of the church?


skyvolt2000

skyvolt2000

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http://atlantapost.com/2010/08/19/low-black-male-graduation-rates-indicate-a-failure-in-faith-not-circumstances/

If you consider yourself successful by any measure of the Western standard, then you were probably never introduced to the Negro narrative of obfuscation, which teaches the inevitability that outward circumstances will methodically undermine any constructive steps you take in the direction of upward mobility.

All varieties of Negro head honchos, from shepherds of churchgoing hallelujah flock, to old timey civil rights activists, preach the defeatist mantra of how “the manâ€￾ is out to get them and the variety of ways that our system keeps a “brothaâ€￾ down.

Unfortunately, it now appears that this chorus of pessimism has entrenched itself in the minds of African American young men, teachers, and even parents.

According to a recent study by the Schott Foundation for Public Education, less than 50% of black males graduated from high school during the 2007-2008 school year. Even worse, according to the report, “(M)ore than twice as many black students are classified as ‘mentally retarded’ in spite of research demonstrating that the percentages of students from all groups are approximately the same at each intelligence level.â€￾

It is clear from the data that young black men are throwing in the towel at record numbers. These numbers should be anything but surprising considering how the black community has systematically lowered expectations for black men on every conceivable level.

In education, we feed young black men bleak statistics which forewarn that he will be killed or imprisoned before age 25, making the pursuit of education futile. In love, black women welcome the most pitiful representations of manhood into their hearts (and bedrooms) with open arms. And in our families, it is now widely accepted for black single moms to raise their kids alone and leave the court system to do battle on their behalf for child support – but what of male parental support?

If we choose to push for a transformation of thought which undoes the damage of the over-empathizers, apologists, and recklessness in our community, then we must teach young black boys that life has meaning under all conditions.

What our education system, homes, and churches are missing are idealists. Believe him grand, and he will be that. Believe him held captive by statistics and circumstances, and he will be just that.
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When I cross the title with the content in the article, it leads me to two questions: Is this lady a member of a church? If so and that church has the attitude that she describes, what is she doing to try to change it?
 
I don't quite get that she is solely blaming churches. She blames all leadership in young mens' lives including parents and some educators.

I have never heard of a church discouraging a young man from reaching for his dream. I've seen them discourage them from losing faith in their dreams though.
 
Boy this is a dumb ass article. And what kind of churches yall go to?? My church encourages education and life goals esp for young boys. Our church gives scholarships out to the kids with the highest GPA and everything.

smh
 
Great! Another insipid excuse for sorry behavior and drive. :tup:

Blame EVERY entity on planet earth but the one who's ultimately responsible for their own success: the student himself (herself). :shame:

Pitiful. :tdown:
 
Panther88 said:
Great! Another insipid excuse for sorry behavior and drive. :tup:

Blame EVERY entity on planet earth but the one who's ultimately responsible for their own success: the student himself (herself). :shame:

Pitiful. :tdown:
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Panther88 forreal you would be a real good mentor to some boys. I hope your son heeds all the advice you give him
 
Okay, women can't get husband because of the church and now men can't graduate because of the church.....So....the faults, ills and problems of Black folks boil down to...THE CHURCH? :lmao:

How about just CHANGING YOUR CHURCH if this is what they preach? :tup:
 
chocalate_topaz said:
Okay, women can't get husband because of the church and now men can't graduate because of the church.....So....the faults, ills and problems of Black folks boil down to...THE CHURCH? :lmao:

How about just CHANGING YOUR CHURCH if this is what they preach? :tup:
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Sad huh, and some of these negroes will buy into it.
 
I'm not reading this shit either...seems folks need to stop blaming everyone else for all their issues and just simply handle their business to make like easier for themselves. Hell, at some point in time one has to WANT/DESIRE to do well & succeed. :smh:
 
luvdaboom said:
Panther88 forreal you would be a real good mentor to some boys. I hope your son heeds all the advice you give him
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I don't think so and even now (real talk), I question how I approached him over the years, considering the physical distance between us. As he got older, I could overtly tell that he was really borderline disrespecting me (raising voice @ certain times and I even detected that he wanted to cuss @ me @ certain times :( ). And all I wanted to do, successfully, was to prevent him from making the EXACT SAME stupid mistakes I'd made and BEST me in all that he had access to (transitioning to manhood, self accountability, academically, and even athletically). :(

A lil' bit of irony and truthism... I actually felt mentally closer to a few young men I'd mentored/directed here in the dfw metroplex. They eagerly listened and wanted to listen to everything I was informing, unlike he @ certain times. I tracked them from their 9th grade yr going forward and I promised them and their single parenting mothers/grandparents that I'd do everything in my power to help them academically via either jr college(there were 4)/comm college(there were 11)/university(2) if they did the right thing (full rides:full tuition room and board). Out of 17 young men of color, 15 graduated w/ AD and 2 BS degrees and are working in their field and there are 3 (?) that are actively teaching. 2 just dropped out. :smh: Just walked away from a 2yr full-ride like it was nothing, considering I'd put my name on the line recommending and helping fill out paperwork, tutoring, etc. :( The only thing I'd asked is if they'd pass it on. Just help other young men of color the way someone helped them.

I digress and I'm retired and I'm also tired. :tup:
 
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Too many examples, like this one below this paragraph, are the reasonings why I'm tired and retired from sticking my neck out. :smh:

How in the blind FVCK does one get ISS on the FIRST day of gott damned school?! :retard: My 2nd cuzin just "announced" that he got ISS for the next 2 mos and he was JOKING about it. I think he also said that he's going to quit anyway so he didn't care one way or the other. I listened to his mom preach to him and finally I hung up the 3-way call. It's a total waste of my time to listen or say a single word to sway that young boy, not young man, but young BOY. I'll only reiterate what his mom, grandmother, aunts, and one uncle are already saying so if he's not going to listen to those whom he shares close DNA w/, what just cause would he have to listen to me? Disrspecting his own mom/grandma? Ridiculous. :tdown:
 



chocalate_topaz said:
Okay, women can't get husband because of the church and now men can't graduate because of the church.....So....the faults, ills and problems of Black folks boil down to...THE CHURCH? :lmao:
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My first thought when reading the title was "dag, yall, we can't blame the church for everything, nah".
 
Panther88 said:
Great! Another insipid excuse for sorry behavior and drive. :tup:

Blame EVERY entity on planet earth but the one who's ultimately responsible for their own success: the student himself (herself). :shame:

Pitiful. :tdown:
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seems folks need to stop blaming everyone else for all their issues and just simply handle their business to make like easier for themselves. Hell, at some point in time one has to WANT/DESIRE to do well & succeed
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Okay everybody look at it like this-is she no worst than George Bush? Did he or did he not create No Child Left Behind??? You break it down and it points the finger at the schools. It's black and white-the kids can't pass it;s EVERY including janitors, cafeteria folks, TAs, Counselors. Nurses, Nurse Assitant, Officers and the drug sniffing dog that comes by every 3 months fault-so every gets fired as Spruce High School learned 3 years ago.

They moved those kids around to other schools and guess what-those schools strated to struggle as well. They refuse to look at who are these kids that are failing these tests. Sure you will have smart kids that struggle with those tests, but what about the rest that don't care? The state dosen't want to hear about the kid that finished the test in 30 seconds.

They have DUMB DOWN the state tests for our kids and they STILL can't pass. We had a story in the Dallas Morning News-
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/education/stories/082210dnmetTAKSgaps.2b0eed3.html


Once again whining about black boys not passing or being college ready. It's to the point everybody is tired of hearing about it. Hispanics aren't having this issue. Kids from other countries, don't know English and are in top of thier classes in less than two years. Even gang members and illegals are doing better than us.

Dallas ISD has very few white or Asian students, so it is difficult to accurately measure an achievement gap. However, gaps exist between Hispanic and black students, with Dallas students mirroring national and statewide trends that show Hispanics performing slightly better than their black peers.

Some black Dallas trustees recently voiced concern while reviewing the latest test results.

"I have a feeling that we are not paying enough attention to the African-American students," said trustee Lew Blackburn.
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Funny the black kids at Townview, Booker T, Rangel, Middle College and Early College aren't struggling. All from the same areas that the low performing black schools are.



How about just CHANGING YOUR CHURCH if this is what they preach?
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I've never heard a church discourage education. I have no idea where she is coming from.

How in the blind FVCK does one get ISS on the FIRST day of gott damned school?! My 2nd cuzin just "announced" that he got ISS for the next 2 mos and he was JOKING about it.
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Legally he can't be in ISS for 2 months unless he was in the process of getting sent to the AEP and we have new laws to limit the times a kid can go-don't ask long story. Don't worry once the snapshot for funding is done next month the school will GLADLY drop him.
 
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