Likely leap to I-A excites FAMU fans


Jafus (Thinker)

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Likely leap to I-A excites FAMU fans

By Hal Habib, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 22, 2003

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/c...itions/today/sports_e35ff2de43a4f03c0023.html

Richard Koonce's grandfather played for Florida A&M. So did his father. And his aunt. And his mother. You could say when it came time for Richard to choose a college, he had a pretty good idea early where he'd be going.

"Clemson or LSU," says Koonce, a 310-pound offensive lineman from Boynton Beach High.

He wanted to play Division I-A football. Period.

They wanted him to be happy, but they really wanted him to be happy at FAMU. Period.

Turns out everyone is getting their wish. Exclamation point.

This month, the Rattlers applied to the NCAA to move from Division I-AA to Division I-A in football. If things go as planned, FAMU would join the same classification as Miami, Florida and Florida State in the fall of 2005. At the same time, FAMU likely would become the first historically black college to play football at the NCAA's highest level since Division I-AA was established in 1978.

The school's board of trustees could sign off on the matter when it meets Tuesday. The NCAA will review the application July 20, although actual acceptance into Division I-A requires meeting several conditions in a two-year period. Meanwhile, in Tallahassee, and in the Koonce household, there suddenly is a mix of cautious optimism, growing confidence and even a hint of giddiness.

"We've always sort of been in the bush leagues," says Barney Bishop, a FAMU trustee and CEO of the Windsor Group. "And now we're looking to move up into the big leagues."


Implications go beyond FAMU

The Rattlers are welcoming all that comes with it, from the national television deal already in place to fending off the Clemsons, LSUs and Miamis when it comes to recruiting the state's best talent. Yes, there's a financial risk, but the school is confident that it's a wise risk because fans drawn in by the football team also will be made aware of the school's academic tradition.

Already, the school can chalk up one benefit: signing Koonce.

Koonce and his mother, Priscilla Maloney, say school officials told them of their plans during a recruiting visit in January.

"It was almost like a done deal by 2005," says Maloney, assistant principal at Lake Worth High. "That's the way it was presented to us."

Imagine how relieved Koonce was. Until then, his grandfather, former Rattlers linebacker Richard Bowers Jr., reminded him daily that "I would sure love to see you in that green and orange." Playing I-AA isn't exactly what teenagers with NFL aspirations has in mind. But now?

"Somebody is telling you that you're with the big boys now, that you're good enough to play with the big guys," Koonce says.

The implications of such a move go far beyond the dreams of one university tucked in the state's panhandle. The NCAA couldn't be certain but said it is likely that FAMU would become the first historically black college or university to make such a move. No one knows what long-ranging effect that might have on black college football, but FAMU backers hope other black schools join them.

"That provides hope for other universities," says Ada Burnette, a FAMU trustee and president of its faculty senate.

Says Koonce: "I see a lot of black colleges following, like Bethune-Cookman, South Carolina State, Tennessee State. I have a cousin who plays for Tennessee State. He told me that they want to do that too so bad."

There's a key reason FAMU is taking a leap others have not. The school recently signed a five-year contract with upstart Urban Broadcasting worth a minimum of $7.5 million. The network plans to nationally televise at least nine Rattlers football games this fall, most live, and expects to be available in the Palm Beach area by fall via cable and satellite.

The Rattlers can thank their band, the Marching 100, for all this. Peggy Dodson is founder, president and CEO of Urban Broadcasting, and as an Arkansas Razorback, she had no connection with the school but was intrigued by the acclaimed band. She considered FAMU a "jewel" and began negotiations, she says, without knowing of the I-A plans.

"I had no idea," Dodson says. "I just have a commitment to black college sports. I knew I wanted to broadcast that, and you go to the best teams. FAMU just happened to fall into our lap."


Hefty investment required

Promotion isn't a slam-dunk. In April 2002, the NCAA toughened the standards for schools to move up, and FAMU is the first school to apply under the new guidelines. The primary requirements: Schools must average at least 15,000 in paid football attendance, offer approximately 200 total scholarships and 16 varsity sports, and play five home games against I-A opponents.

FAMU already meets or comes close to satisfying all these guidelines except attracting five I-A opponents to Bragg Memorial Stadium in Tallahassee. This fall's schedule has zero such games.

"The toughest one for us is obviously getting the schedule together in 2004," says Jonathan Evans, FAMU's director of compliance. It doesn't hurt that I-A schools have begun inquiring about playing, likely under the assumption they can defeat FAMU. Regardless, the school believes it's close enough on the other criteria that "we are proceeding as if there will be no bumps in the road, which is the only way we can proceed," Evans says.

The process began simply enough, with a four-page strategic plan and a $5,000 check submitted to the NCAA, but it now involves millions of dollars, countless jobs and untold academic/athletic careers. Plans call for a $55 million investment for athletic facilities that also house a teacher convocation center. That price includes a $30 million state bond for increasing the football stadium's capacity from 22,500 to more than 40,000, plus skyboxes, possibly for '04. Some improvements would have happened anyway, Evans says, but the figures are a significant enough portion of the school's $210 million operating budget that some are pausing.

"There are some unanswered questions," says Roosevelt Wilson, publisher of the Tallahassee newspaper Capital Outlook. "The concern is, first of all, the fact it is tied into the television deal and the fact the Urban Broadcasting Company is a new company with no track record. The deal might work. And also, it might not. And so, if it doesn't work, what might be the consequences to tying the whole move to Division I based on that revenue? That doesn't indicate I am for or against it. I just think it's a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed."

And it will be, say members of the board of trustees.

"It's a valid comment, but the report the board has received is this is a solid organization and so we view the risk as acceptable," Key Biscayne attorney Al Cardenas says.

Bishop concedes that the move wouldn't be possible without the TV contract but agrees with Wilson's call for caution. Part of the reason is that while the deal calls for FAMU to receive at least $7.5 million, the maximum won't be known for years.

"What the television deal gives us is a solid foundation to work off of, as long as we're mindful that we shouldn't be looking at the maximum we're going to get but just rely on the minimum," Bishop says.

The other dose of reality is the economy, says Rick Horrow, a visiting professor of sports law at Harvard.

"It's always very difficult after the post-Sept. 11 recessionary economic period for corporate America to launch a Division I program," Horrow says. He pointed to Tulane, which narrowly avoided dropping from Division I-A amid $5 million to $7 million in losses.

Says Burnette: "We know the economy is bad. There's never a good time to make change. Change is always painful. Change is risky. But if you don't change, you don't have a chance to get better. Sometimes you have to make an investment for the greater good. That's why people play the stock market."


Opportunities for black players

FAMU officials are determined to maintain their profitable rivalry with Bethune-Cookman, but Division I-A status would end the Rattlers' affiliation with the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference. The most likely destinations are Conference USA, the Mid-American or Sun Belt conferences.

"We as alumni feel we've outgrown the MEAC," Maloney says.

"I'm very happy for them," says Dennis Thomas, commissioner of the MEAC. "I wish them success.... Obviously we would hate to see them go, but that's progress for them."

That's the business side of the equation. Ask those on the football side, and there's unabashed excitement.

The subject created a buzz in the Dolphins' locker room, where the prospect of seeing his alma mater move up delights guard Jamie Nails.

"It's about time," says Nails, a Rattler in 1995-96. "We should have been D-I from Day One. When they recruit, they already have a great education and a great social life. All they have to say now is Division I and you can't beat that.

"It's been in the works for a long time. They were even talking about it when I was there."

Upon hearing Nails talking up FAMU, fellow offensive linemen Greg Jerman and Dwayne Pierce pounced, talking trash even before there's much to talk about.

"I would have loved to play D-I, especially against cats like LSU and Georgia," Nails said. (Pierce went to LSU and Jerman to Baylor, but you get the idea.)

For board member Cardenas, the recruiting issue is a key reason FAMU must move up.

"A few years ago, we didn't have that many I-A schools in Florida," Cardenas says. "Now you have the other universities competing for talent where normally we only had to compete with the Big Three. I believe in order to recruit the right kids -- they want to compete against the best in the country -- the only way to do that is by moving up."

Glades Central graduate JaJuan Seider experienced college football on both the I-A and I-AA levels. He transferred from West Virginia to FAMU and in 1999 led the Rattlers by passing for 2,622 yards and 27 touchdowns. Seider says the main differences he saw were in resources. The Mountaineers had a coach devoted solely to strength training; the Rattlers had a weight room that was "very small." On the field, he saw many similarities.

"We matched up well with the major Division I teams at least from the Top 25 on back," Seider says. "The guys in the Top 10, they're in the Top 10 for a reason."

Although black college football can boast such alums as Jerry Rice and Walter Payton, the public often fails to recognize the talent involved because of the I-AA and black college labels, Seider says.

"I think it's unfair that a lot of coaches from black schools don't get their fair justice," Seider says. "I know for a fact (FAMU coach) Billy Joe is one of the greatest coaches I ever met. I played on every level there is, for some great coaches. I know he's one of the hardest-working men I've ever been around."

Likewise, Seider says, the players can be shortchanged. Seider was drafted in the seventh round by the San Diego Chargers and recently worked out with the Jacksonville Jaguars, but he said many players from black colleges don't get the pro opportunities he did.

"You look around, the guys from a black school, they really get one shot and they're done," Seider says. "The other guys -- not saying it's racial or anything -- but the kids from the white schools, even I-AA, they get all the chances in the world and half of them aren't near the athletes that the guys from the black schools are."

Seider believes seeing his alma mater in I-A, consistently on national TV, could change that.

"I remember the year I was there, we played a lot of games on TV, and that's what got me drafted," he says. "I would talk to the scout at San Diego, and he said when we were playing Appalachian State they caught the game on TV and I had one of my better games." Seider threw for 313 yards and three touchdowns and rushed for 81 yards and three more TDs in a 44-29 victory. "Nobody can see you behind closed doors," Seider says.

That's one reason Koonce is eagerly awaiting his college career. In Division I-A.

"We're ready to move on and kick some butt," Koonce says.

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This article comes at a good time to supplement the one posted by the Atlanta Journal and Conststitution on HBCU's not getting the best players anymore. I too think that JSU would have a shot at some of the players that go to Ole Miss, MS State and especially USM if we were 1-A. FAMU want to raise 55M for athletics. JSU is already in the midst of raising 25M but 30M of FAMU's is for a stadium upgrade leaving them raising the same amount that we are.
 



Tigerpride,

Interesting comments and break down on that economic stadium part of the fund raising goal.

This article comes at a good time to supplement the one posted by the Atlanta Journal and Conststitution on HBCU's not getting the best players anymore. I too think that JSU would have a shot at some of the players that to Ole Miss, MS State and especially USM if we were 1-A. FAMU want to raise 55M for athletics. JSU is already in the midst of raising 25M but 30M of FAMU's is for a stadium upgrade leaving them raising the same amount that we are.

I also agree with the AJC on HBCU's comments as well.
 
In my opinion, moving up to I-A would mean worse recruiting. There are a lot of kids who would prefer to play for a winning I-AA team as opposed to a losing I-A team.

La-Monroe recruited much better when they were a I-AA power than they do as a I-A doormat. The same may be said in a few years about Troy State and some other schools.

If you were a stud in Ohio, would you rather go to Youngstown State or Akron?
 
PNeck019,

Good Question!

If you were a stud in Ohio, would you rather go to Youngstown State or Akron?

A great deal has to also with the ability of the coach to recruit and clearly facilities (Something about a nice new facility {weight, dorm/apartment, study hall/complex and stadium} or a promise of one in a year or two). But, from what I have read and heard, people in general would rather plat at the highest level of the NCAA (Division I A) if they a have choice between NCAA Division I AA or NCAA Division I A.

You point out ULM as case study, which is very interesting and could have some releventcy. I wish I had articles and information on their move so I would personaly feel more comfortable comparing their move with other programs that are currently moving or have moved recently. There are several differences in the time frame in which ULM moved and programs moving today.
 
Originally posted by PNeck019
In my opinion, moving up to I-A would mean worse recruiting. There are a lot of kids who would prefer to play for a winning I-AA team as opposed to a losing I-A team.

La-Monroe recruited much better when they were a I-AA power than they do as a I-A doormat. The same may be said in a few years about Troy State and some other schools.

If you were a stud in Ohio, would you rather go to Youngstown State or Akron?

These are some good points. A lot will depend on the revenue streams and the expenses. (Let's not forget about the expenses.) True, they are kids who like playing for an excellent 1-AA program as oppose to a losing 1-A team. Schools like Younstown get some players that Akron would love to have. Anyway, the move by FAMU will be interesting.
 
PNeck:
I think FAMU brings an interesting dynamic to the table. They're a HBCU.

For years, some of the better Black athletes have looked over HBCUs because they want to play I-A football. Now they finally have an opportunity to play I-A and stay at home (if you will).

I wish FAMU all the luck and we'll see if some of the better Black athletes decide to stay home. As it stands now, the opportunity to play I-A football is the only thing HBCUs lack.
 
my opinion, moving up to I-A would mean worse recruiting. There are a lot of kids who would prefer to play for a winning I-AA team as opposed to a losing I-A team.

La-Monroe recruited much better when they were a I-AA power than they do as a I-A doormat. The same may be said in a few years about Troy State and some other schools.

If you were a stud in Ohio, would you rather go to Youngstown State or Akron?

In a lot of cases this is true. I have a friend who was probably the best athlete coming out of Southern Ohio in 1995. BCS schools stayed away because his grades were F%^& up. All of the MAC school offered a scholorship knowing they could get a steal. He ended up going to Marshall. I asked him why he chose Marshall (1AA) over all the other IA's. He stated, Marshall's coach told him he could go to one these small D1's and just play football or he could come to Marshall and win a national championship, and held up his national championship ring. He said that's all he needed to hear. Now he has one for himself. Everybody loves a proven winner.
 
PNeck019,

To me I-A isn't a be-all, end-all. I posed this question on the SWAC board.

True!! Must people understand that.

If you were a football player in Ohio, would you rather go to Youngstown State or Akron? Akron is I-A, so they must be in the "highest level of college football." Youngstown consistently tears that azz up....

This maybe true. But couldn't the question be asked like this as well. If you were a football player in Ohio, would your rather go to Youngtown State after they announced a move from NCAA Division I AA to NCAA Division I A or Akron? Akron is I-A and now in this scenario so is Youngtown State, so they both must be in the "highest level of college football." and Youngstown should still onsistently tears that azz up...
 
TSUTiger,

Respectfully. How can you state with confidence, in a lot of cases this is true and only provide "one" case that such a scenario follow your assessment?
 
Jafus
Fair question. If my memory serves me correct, PNECK is a high school coach, and can relate to what I?m talking about. High school coaches play a huge role in the recruiting process. They weed out a lot of colleges for various reasons. They usually, guide their players towards winning programs. Most of the time they would rather guide a player to Georgia Southern (1aa) over Buffalo (sorry ***** 1A). Coaches read the paper, they recognize good programs on various levels. Why do you think Central State got all those studs back in the day? A lot of high school coaches recognize a dominate program that would continue to develop player and win national championships.
 
TSUTiger,

Jafus
Fair question. If my memory serves me correct, PNECK is a high school coach, and can relate to what I?m talking about. High school coaches play a huge role in the recruiting process. They weed out a lot of colleges for various reasons. They usually, guide their players towards winning programs. Most of the time they would rather guide a player to Georgia Southern (1aa) over Buffalo (sorry ***** 1A). Coaches read the paper, they recognize good programs on various levels. Why do you think Central State got all those studs back in the day? A lot of high school coaches recognize a dominate program that would continue to develop player and win national championships.

I must admit. I never thought about it in that light. I am aware that coaches (first hand experience) do stir kids in certain directions, partially for their own benefit, especially when the father and some degree the mother are not as much involved in the decision making process. But I must also state I have not scene or heard high school coaches stirring hich school student athletes in the direction of a NCAA Division I AA program over a NCAA Division I A program, unless the played (alum) for that NCAA Division I AA program.

I am not sure that PNeck019 would to talk about these implications, but I am interesting in his thoughts on this particular statement.
 
Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
TSUTiger,



I must admit. I never thought about it in that light. I am aware that coaches (first hand experience) do stir kids in certain directions, partially for their own benefit, especially when the father and some degree the mother are not as much involved in the decision making process. But I must also state I have not scene or heard high school coaches stirring hich school student athletes in the direction of a NCAA Division I AA program over a NCAA Division I A program, unless the played (alum) for that NCAA Division I AA program.

I am not sure that PNeck019 would to talk about these implications, but I am interesting in his thoughts on this particular statement.


I, personally, have never steered a player in any particular direction. I feel it's in the player's best interests to make the decision based on his and his parent(s) consideration of all the facts.

That said, when asked for my opinion, I've called it like I've seen it. Especially in cases when I've had a closer relationship with the player, i.e. his position coach, I have a better knowledge of the family's or school's situation.

My most recent example-my kid going to SU this year-I believe he and his parents made the decision, but I think I helped "grease the gears" so to speak.

He had almost made his mind up to walk on at the other BR school (which I had told him that in my opinion was a bad idea) when his official visit to SU rolled around. The only thing I told him and his dad was to go into the weekend with an open mind. They were completely sold by the trip. I think the overriding factor was feeling wanted.

I also like to help kids cut through the bullcrap coming from some college coaches. A lot of them like to blow smoke up kids' azzes. If you listen to everything they say, each position has three or four people guaranteed to start next year!

I like coaches that are honest with playing time stuff. It's like something I read in Dean Smith's book. Several kids turned UNC down over the years because he wouldn't guarantee them a position. All he ever promised was that they'd have the same opportunity to earn a position as anyone else. The same went for Michael Jordan and Buzz Peterson.
 



Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
Likely leap to I-A excites FAMU fans

By Hal Habib, Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
Sunday, June 22, 2003

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/c...itions/today/sports_e35ff2de43a4f03c0023.html

Richard Koonce's grandfather played for Florida A&M. So did his father. And his aunt. And his mother. You could say when it came time for Richard to choose a college, he had a pretty good idea early where he'd be going.

"Clemson or LSU," says Koonce, a 310-pound offensive lineman from Boynton Beach High.

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Jafus,,, thankyou for coming to this forum. Great article. Keep up the great work and the fabulous threads. Just great to see this kind of stuff coming from an HBCU AT LAST.
 
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