Larry Bird or Lebron James?


In_The_662

In_The_662

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This question has seemed to sparked a lot of convo thanks to Mark Jackson proclaiming him the best small forward of all time.
 



If I was drafting a team........Lebron James.
If there was seconds left in a game and my team is behind, the ball and........Larry Bird
 
LeBron is second all-time in Player Efficiency Rating. Jordan is No. 1 by the way. But Bird's and LeBron's numbers in terms of production and overall value to their teams compared to their peers are pretty similar.

I'd take LeBron because there hasn't been anyone at that height and size in the history of the sport who can do so many things on the floor like he does.
 
kendrick said:
LeBron is second all-time in Player Efficiency Rating. Jordan is No. 1 by the way. But Bird's and LeBron's numbers in terms of production and overall value to their teams compared to their peers are pretty similar.

I'd take LeBron because there hasn't been anyone at that height and size in the history of the sport who can do so many things on the floor like he does.
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The original was Magic, just did not have LeBron's athletic ability and size. I like LeBron and Bird, but I might have to go with Dr. J or Scottie Pippen.
 
I love Pippen but he was no Bird. He was a better defender by far but Bird was an overall better player in my opinion.
 
Can't really compare the two. The League was different when Bird played vs LBJ.
 
jag4life said:
I love Pippen but he was no Bird. He was a better defender by far but Bird was an overall better player in my opinion.
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Pippen is consider one of the best, if not the best all around players to ever play. Bird had a better shot, but that's it. Pippen could play four positions, including point guard. He is consider the first point-forward since he was relied upon to handle the ball so much. Bird couldn't play point or shooting guard if his life was depending on it. He was too slow.
 
Bane said:
Pippen is consider one of the best, if not the best all around players to ever play. Bird had a better shot, but that's it. Pippen could play four positions, including point guard. He is consider the first point-forward since he was relied upon to handle the ball so much. Bird couldn't play point or shooting guard if his life was depending on it. He was too slow.
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I like Pippen as well but a heavy flaw was the televised game where he was to go in and take that final shot and he told Toni K. (can't spell his name) to go in for him and Toni missed the shot and the Bulls lost. That takes him out of the conversation.
 
Bane said:
Pippen is consider one of the best, if not the best all around players to ever play. Bird had a better shot, but that's it. Pippen could play four positions, including point guard. He is consider the first point-forward since he was relied upon to handle the ball so much. Bird couldn't play point or shooting guard if his life was depending on it. He was too slow.
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I agree. Bird was too slow but could shoot the hell out of a ball standing in a corner.
 
Psilent_rage said:
I like Pippen as well but a heavy flaw was the televised game where he was to go in and take that final shot and he told Toni K. (can't spell his name) to go in for him and Toni missed the shot and the Bulls lost. That takes him out of the conversation.
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Toni Kukoc made the game winning shot.
 



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Psilent_rage said:
I like Pippen as well but a heavy flaw was the televised game where he was to go in and take that final shot and he told Toni K. (can't spell his name) to go in for him and Toni missed the shot and the Bulls lost. That takes him out of the conversation.
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Actually Phil Jackson called the play for Kukoc. Pip got upset and didn't go into the game.
 
Jax said:
Can't really compare the two. The League was different when Bird played vs LBJ.
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I'm sure a lot of these people have never ever seen Bird play in his prime. I agree, the league was definitely different. :lol: :emlaugh:

[video=youtube;msEmcemLR7M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=msEmcemLR7M#t=221[/video]
 
Psilent_rage said:
I like Pippen as well but a heavy flaw was the televised game where he was to go in and take that final shot and he told Toni K. (can't spell his name) to go in for him and Toni missed the shot and the Bulls lost. That takes him out of the conversation.
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No... Phil Jackson told Pippen to pass to Kukoc for the shot and Pippen got pissed because he wanted to take the final shot. He refused to go in and Kokoc hit the shot to win.
 
Bane said:
Pippen is consider one of the best, if not the best all around players to ever play. Bird had a better shot, but that's it. Pippen could play four positions, including point guard. He is consider the first point-forward since he was relied upon to handle the ball so much. Bird couldn't play point or shooting guard if his life was depending on it. He was too slow.
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Bird could score in many ways and wasn't as slow as you make it out to be. I watched this dude MANY a time against my Lakers and against Dr. J. Bird was a great passer and a pretty good rebounder also. Even had great post moves.
 
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