JSU football coach candidates

[staggalee83]

Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Harold Jackson

Comments please ....................dare I say ...............no smack. :bump:

 

[Get Ready]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

NOPE

 

[JSU/99]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

I have to question Cleveland's motives. All he touts is this guy's experience while totally overlooking his previous unsuccessful stints as a HC. Its the same thing with McKenzie. Its like he's so hell-bent on us naming an alum that he's totally over looking very qualified candidates like John Shannon and Mike White. And his comments about Comegy's qualifications tells me he'd like us to stay in our own HBCU world. Maybe I'm reading too much into that one but still. Anyway the only way we move forward is by hiring the best coach available, wherever he's from. The fans will be back once we start winning.

One thing about Cleveland, he's always struck me as one of those old-tymers who would love for things to go back to the way they used to be in the 80's. Unfortunately that's not gonna happen. The only way you move forward is to hire the candidate that best suits your needs today. Where would USC be if they thought this way? Or Oklahoma?

 

[coldsweat]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Under qualified! Simple as that! Other than some stints at 2 c**n arse schools, especially Kentucky, we really don't need him! :smug2:

If were talking about coordinators or position coaches as the head coach at JSU, the only true candidates are the RB coach at LSU and John Shannon at Toledo! :nod:

If we're talking about head coaches at other schools, the only other candidates are Comegy, Mike White, & L.C. Cole --even though his brother is the head coach at Lane.

 

[JR]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Harold Jackson

Comments please ....................dare I say ...............no smack. :bump:

As a native Jacksonian with JSU roots in my family. I co-sign that article. Cleveland spoke the truth. For the life of me I do not understand the cold shoulder JSU has given both WC Gorden and Walter Reed. They need to embrace their past. I think that is something that has haunted them since they ignored it in the 90s after WC retired from coaching.

Anyway, Harold Jackson is good people. I am familiar with his family and worked with some of his people in the past. He is highly thought of and is a JSU man through and through. He would be a good choice to restore some of that pride and swagger to the JSU program that ole JR saw growing up. Money should not be a stumbling block this time. If it is then it will be too bad. Comegy would be a good coach there as well. But I think the relationship between the fans and the program is so bad right now that maybe only a JSU man or one with JSU ties could mend the fences. Bell's damage to the program far exceeded the results on the field. He alienated to many JSU supporters during his time and if someone like Comegy got hired, he would have be able to really step up and get the community back. That is tough for an outsider. We know how all our schools can be clickish at times.

This will be interesting. LOL at the comment from Harold basically saying Culbertson will have to be gone for him to work there. Sounds like Culby better send out some resumes. Mason has to fire that guy. Nobody trusts that dude. I would assume Jackson, McKenzie and Comegy names are the ones high on the list since Cleveland is endorsing them. Good read.

 

[JR]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Under qualified! Simple as that! Other than some stints at 2 c**n arse schools, especially Kentucky, we really don't need him! :smug2:

If were talking about coordinators or position coaches as the head coach at JSU, the only true candidates are the RB coach at LSU and John Shannon at Toledo! :nod:

If we're talking about head coaches at other schools, the only other candidates are Comegy, Mike White, & L.C. Cole --even though his brother is the head coach at Lane.

I hate to tell yall this. But John Shannon aint coming back to JSU. He is the OC at Toledo in the MAC. He is probably a hot commodity to be a head coach in 1A. He is good. But I think he is going to get a 1A job. Remember unlike black assistant coaches in 1A, Shannon being white will get him more looks at the HC level. Plus he is at home in the Midwest were he has roots.


Maybe H. Jackson aint the most qualified. But obviously he has been in some nice offenses in his past. So he knows something. Now that people know that Pete makes 200 K, Spears is about 140-150 and Jones at AAMU is over 100k. JSU is going to have to cough up some dough. For the coaches some of yall want, it is going to cost you. Maybe Shannon would come for some big money. If you guys want HC experience then Comegy may be your man.
I don't know much about White. But remember this as well. Whoever yall hire will need to dynamic enough to go out and restore trust in Jackson. Can't have a quiet stoic guy like we have in Pete. JSU needs more than just a coach at this point. The fans and alumni will need to be excited by who you hire and of course the results on the field will be the measuring stick.

 

[coldsweat]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

As a native Jacksonian with JSU roots in my family. I co-sign that article. Cleveland spoke the truth. For the life of me I do not understand the cold shoulder JSU has given both WC Gorden and Walter Reed. They need to embrace their past. I think that is something that has haunted them since they ignored it in the 90s after WC retired from coaching.

I agree totally with the underlined! :nod: :tup: Unfortuantely, you would have to know the whole story on the situation with WC Gorden in order to have a true and honest perspective of what happened. Truthfully, JSU alumni or whomever the powers that be during that time did Gordon wrong and it seems as if we're still paying for it. :shame: We have to at least mend the broken ties between those die hard alumni who not only showed the love and support for the univerisity but also put in the time and effort to make JSU athletics what it is today!

Furthermore, Rick Cleveland is a racist arsehole! :nod: Don't let him fool you with all of these "good reads!" I've seen his tactics on a first hand basis and know his tricks. The more people read this article, the more they are going to be blinded by the real reason JSU is in the slumps----NO ALUMNI SUPPORT!!! :smh:

Needless to say, right now I could give a rats arse if we hired a JSU alum as the headcoach or not! I want the best possible candidate...PERIOD!! :nod: And right now, Harold Jackson is not the best possible candidate and nor is John Mackenzie! :smh:

It's amazing how people can not see through the tricks of the devil! One minute it seems like they're trying to help you and then all of a sudden, you realize the truth and see that you are far much worse than you started! :smh:

 

[JSU/99]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

As a native Jacksonian with JSU roots in my family. I co-sign that article. Cleveland spoke the truth. For the life of me I do not understand the cold shoulder JSU has given both WC Gorden and Walter Reed. They need to embrace their past. I think that is something that has haunted them since they ignored it in the 90s after WC retired from coaching.

Anyway, Harold Jackson is good people. I am familiar with his family and worked with some of his people in the past. He is highly thought of and is a JSU man through and through. He would be a good choice to restore some of that pride and swagger to the JSU program that ole JR saw growing up. Money should not be a stumbling block this time. If it is then it will be too bad. Comegy would be a good coach there as well. But I think the relationship between the fans and the program is so bad right now that maybe only a JSU man or one with JSU ties could mend the fences. Bell's damage to the program far exceeded the results on the field. He alienated to many JSU supporters during his time and if someone like Comegy got hired, he would have be able to really step up and get the community back. That is tough for an outsider. We know how all our schools can be clickish at times.

This will be interesting. LOL at the comment from Harold basically saying Culbertson will have to be gone for him to work there. Sounds like Culby better send out some resumes. Mason has to fire that guy. Nobody trusts that dude. I would assume Jackson, McKenzie and Comegy names are the ones high on the list since Cleveland is endorsing them. Good read.

This is what I mean. We can't get stuck into thinking that only a JSU alum can bring back the program. That's small-time thinking. The fans will be back when the wins come. That will only happen if we hire the best coach we can. Yes schools can be clickish and JSU is worst than most. But the fans left Bell primarily for 2 reasons: 1) he could be an arse at times and 2) his teams didn't win. I guarantee reason #2 was a much bigger factor than #1.

And don't read too much into this article. Cleveland is simply voicing his opinion. Right now neither McKenzie or Jackson is high on the list. Unless something happens in the near future, I don't see either of those guys being named.

One more thing: Gordon was a great asset to the school and its good that he gets to play the role of elder statsman. But he was never very popular at JSU. When he was fired as AD, not many people cried.

 

[Blacknbengal]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

I hate to tell yall this. But John Shannon aint coming back to JSU. He is the OC at Toledo in the MAC.

:shh: :read:

 

[coldsweat]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

I hate to tell yall this. But John Shannon aint coming back to JSU. He is the OC at Toledo in the MAC. He is probably a hot commodity to be a head coach in 1A. He is good. But I think he is going to get a 1A job. Remember unlike black assistant coaches in 1A, Shannon being white will get him more looks at the HC level. Plus he is at home in the Midwest were he has roots.

Not so fast my friend! :winkgrin: What's so ironic about the John Shannon situation is how bad we did him when he was up for the head coach position at JSU after Carson retired and we gave it to JW, and now we are going right back to him like we should have done initially in 2000!! :spin: As a result, then interim president, Betty Ward Fletcher hired JW and Shannon left! It's amazing that we are now "actively pursuing" the one guy we did so wrong. GOD don't like ugly!! :lmao:

All of this makes me wonder what if we would have done right by WC Gordon...... :smh: We would be in much better shape than we are now! :nod:

 

[JR]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

This is what I mean. We can't get stuck into thinking that only a JSU alum can bring back the program. That's small-time thinking. The fans will be back when the wins come. That will only happen if we hire the best coach we can. Yes schools can be clickish and JSU is worst than most. But the fans left Bell primarily for 2 reasons: 1) he could be an arse at times and 2) his teams didn't win. I guarantee reason #2 was a much bigger factor than #1.

And don't read too much into this article. Cleveland is simply voicing his opinion. Right now neither McKenzie or Jackson is high on the list. Unless something happens in the near future, I don't see either of those guys being named.

One more thing: Gordon was a great asset to the school and its good that he gets to play the role of elder statsman. But he was never very popular at JSU. When he was fired as AD, not many people cried.

Believe me I know Cleveland aint no friend of JSU. I just happened to agree with some of his article. I also know that no matter what WC did in Jackson it wasn't good enough. He had his faults of course. But even in winning, folks never got over that he was a Tenn State alum. Plus he didn't take no isht from folks. My old man was one of the few JSU folks in his click that was a big WC fan. We would talk how JSU alums such as Willie Richardson always tried to undermine him with his comments. So believe I saw it throughout my time in Jackson and even while I was at SU. Now the AD stint Gorden had was a disaster. Probably should have never had that job.

Well again I wish JSU luck. But I will say again if you guys want all this coaching experience or a top coordinator from a 1A program. Be prepared to pay Pete like money. Some of these 1A coordinators make 150 K already.

 

[JR]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Not so fast my friend! :winkgrin: What's so ironic about the John Shannon situation is how bad we did him when he was up for the head coach position at JSU after Carson retired and we gave it to JW, and now we are going right back to him like we should have done initially in 2000!! :spin: As a result, then interim president, Betty Ward Fletcher hired JW and Shannon left! It's amazing that we are now "actively pursuing" the one guy we did so wrong. GOD don't like ugly!! :lmao:

All of this makes me wonder what if we would have done right by WC Gordon...... :smh: We would be in much better shape than we are now! :nod:

Now I agree with you on that. Shannon was done wrong. That's why he will make JSU pay to come back if he even interested. I am just looking at his bio and what he has done since leaving JSU and find it impressive. So it cost to get Shannon. I also agree with you about WC. We are on the same page.

I hope JSU gets it right. The SWAC needs JSU to be strong in Football. No doubt.

 

[JSU/99]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Believe me I know Cleveland aint no friend of JSU. I just happened to agree with some of his article. I also know that no matter what WC did in Jackson it wasn't good enough. He had his faults of course. But even in winning, folks never got over that he was a Tenn State alum. Plus he didn't take no isht from folks. My old man was one of the few JSU folks in his click that was a big WC fan. We would talk how JSU alums such as Willie Richardson always tried to undermine him with his comments. So believe I saw it throughout my time in Jackson and even while I was at SU. Now the AD stint Gorden had was a disaster. Probably should have never had that job.

Well again I wish JSU luck. But I will say again if you guys want all this coaching experience or a top coordinator from a 1A program. Be prepared to pay Pete like money. Some of these 1A coordinators make 150 K already.

I agree with you 100% about Gordon. And I wish there was an honorary role in which he could serve. But his time at JSU is past. I hate it ended so badly, but that's how it goes sometimes.

As for Shannon, he probably makes about 100K at best with Toledo. Keep in mind he was just promoted from WR coach and those MAC schools don't pay big money for their assistants. He is VERY interested in this job and we are willing to pay more than 85K for the next coach. Despite what that idiotic Culberson says.

 

[JROCK]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

As a native Jacksonian with JSU roots in my family. I co-sign that article. Cleveland spoke the truth. For the life of me I do not understand the cold shoulder JSU has given both WC Gorden and Walter Reed. They need to embrace their past. I think that is something that has haunted them since they ignored it in the 90s after WC retired from coaching.

Anyway, Harold Jackson is good people. I am familiar with his family and worked with some of his people in the past. He is highly thought of and is a JSU man through and through. He would be a good choice to restore some of that pride and swagger to the JSU program that ole JR saw growing up. Money should not be a stumbling block this time. If it is then it will be too bad. Comegy would be a good coach there as well. But I think the relationship between the fans and the program is so bad right now that maybe only a JSU man or one with JSU ties could mend the fences. Bell's damage to the program far exceeded the results on the field. He alienated to many JSU supporters during his time and if someone like Comegy got hired, he would have be able to really step up and get the community back. That is tough for an outsider. We know how all our schools can be clickish at times.

This will be interesting. LOL at the comment from Harold basically saying Culbertson will have to be gone for him to work there. Sounds like Culby better send out some resumes. Mason has to fire that guy. Nobody trusts that dude. I would assume Jackson, McKenzie and Comegy names are the ones high on the list since Cleveland is endorsing them. Good read.

Good Post,

Many may not look at it this way but IMHO, it is now an exciting time at JSU. This is a new beginning. A chance to right a wrong and re-establish a true jewel in BCF.

 

[Mr. Tiger]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Harold Jackson is on my list of candidates, but the negative on him is the lack of head coaching or coordinator experience. That doesn't mean he could not rebuild Jackson State. He deserves an interview and consideration. NOTE to EVERYONE John Shannon isn't coming back His stock is on the rise and it wouldn't surprise me to see him as a head coach in the MAC before long. My first choice and nobody seems to be talking about him is:

Fred Jackson (Age 55) -- Michigan assistant head coach. A native of Baton Rouge, La., Jackson was an all-conference quarterback at Jackson State after leading the conference in passing during the 1970 season. He earned his bachelor of science degree from Jackson State in 1972. Jackson has a great reputation but he's over 50 now and has been passed up for D-I jobs. He is an acclaimed recruiter and has had his current position since the Wolverines' co-national championship season in 1997. He was voted 2001 National Assistant Coach of the Year by the American Football Coaches Association and was a finalist in 2000 for the Broyles Award, as top assistant coach. He's also been an offensive coordinator at Toledo, Purdue, Wisconsin and Michigan. Jackson reportedly turned down a number of NFL assistant jobs, including one with the New York Giants, to keep his head coaching hopes alive. Michigan went to major bowl games when Jackson served as offensive coordinator and he won 7 games each year at Wisconsin while there as OC. So he has the coordinator's experience, he currently coaches running backs, he is a JSU alum and he is a good recruiter. That should be the guy we want. Then, hire an OC that we can groom to take over when Jackson retires.

 

[coldsweat]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Now I agree with you on that. Shannon was done wrong. That's why he will make JSU pay to come back if he even interested. I am just looking at his bio and what he has done since leaving JSU and find it impressive. So it cost to get Shannon. I also agree with you about WC. We are on the same page.

I hope JSU gets it right. The SWAC needs JSU to be strong in Football. No doubt.

:tup: If I were Shannon, I'd make us pay too! :lol: :lol: We can't afford not to get this thing right this time! :smh: The major obstacle I see with Shannon is his color and the possiblity of alumns not embracing him because of it. :shame: Other than that, he's a perfect fit in my opinion! :tup: Hopefully, the alumni can look over the color barrier and try to do the right thing this time. We have done some many people wrong in the past because they were different...John Merrit, perhaps one of the best coaches in JSU history, who left JSU for TN State over contract disputes that he turned down TWICE but finally gave in after JSU reniged on his salary :shame: .....WC Gorden, the most winningest coach in JSU history period but was a TN State alum and the alumns never embraced him, John Shannon, who was the single best O-Coordinator in D1-AA while at JSU and was wrongfully looked over by the administration, and JW, who should have never been the head coach to begin with :lol: but at any rate was done wrong by Culberson and his hidden agenda to let Bell get the job! :shame:

So as you can see, karma really is a biatch and JSU rightfully deserves some of the problems that we have now! The only way to remedy this is to do right by people....and this can only begin with us....ALUMNI! :nod:

 

[JR]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

I agree with you 100% about Gordon. And I wish there was an honorary role in which he could serve. But his time at JSU is past. I hate it ended so badly, but that's how it goes sometimes.

As for Shannon, he probably makes about 100K at best with Toledo. Keep in mind he was just promoted from WR coach and those MAC schools don't pay big money for their assistants. He is VERY interested in this job and we are willing to pay more than 85K for the next coach. Despite what that idiotic Culberson says.

Oh I agree, JSU is going to pay more than 85k. At least Culby wasn't dumb enough to give Bell more than that. LOL. No way JSU goes out and gets another 85 K coach. At least I hope they don't.

Shannon probably makes about 100k now. So you are right. But one thing about the MAC assistants. Their names have been up for HC jobs. The MAC aint no punk conference anymore. Dnice and I talk all the time on how the MAC is tough and a good offensive conference. Shannon just got promoted so he may feel some loyalty to Toledo's coach. It also depends on how many of the JSU folk really want Shannon. That search committee has old school written all over it. It will be interesting.

 

[JSU/99]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Harold Jackson is on my list of candidates, but the negative on him is the lack of head coaching or coordinator experience. That doesn't mean he could not rebuild Jackson State. He deserves an interview and consideration. NOTE to EVERYONE John Shannon isn't coming back His stock is on the rise and it wouldn't surprise me to see him as a head coach in the MAC before long. My first choice and nobody seems to be talking about him is:

Fred Jackson (Age 55) -- Michigan assistant head coach. A native of Baton Rouge, La., Jackson was an all-conference quarterback at Jackson State after leading the conference in passing during the 1970 season. He earned his bachelor of science degree from Jackson State in 1972. Jackson has a great reputation but he's over 50 now and has been passed up for D-I jobs. He is an acclaimed recruiter and has had his current position since the Wolverines' co-national championship season in 1997. He was voted 2001 National Assistant Coach of the Year by the American Football Coaches Association and was a finalist in 2000 for the Broyles Award, as top assistant coach. He's also been an offensive coordinator at Toledo, Purdue, Wisconsin and Michigan. Jackson reportedly turned down a number of NFL assistant jobs, including one with the New York Giants, to keep his head coaching hopes alive. Michigan went to major bowl games when Jackson served as offensive coordinator and he won 7 games each year at Wisconsin while there as OC. So he has the coordinator's experience, he currently coaches running backs, he is a JSU alum and he is a good recruiter. That should be the guy we want. Then, hire an OC that we can groom to take over when Jackson retires.

According to Mark Alexander(who's usually right about these things), Shannon is interested in the job. And I really don't see him getting a D-1A job anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, he's good. But him making the jump from MAC coordinator to D-1A headcoach anytime soon is a big stretch. He was just the WRs coach last year.

As for Jackson, he makes about 300K as Michigan's assistant HC. Unless he's willing to take a big pay cut we can't afford him - even with Pete Richardson money.

 

[JROCK]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

So as you can see, karma really is a biatch and JSU rightfully deserves some of the problems that we have now! The only way to remedy this is to do right by people....and this can only begin with us....ALUMNI! :nod:

You said a mouth full with what is in the bold print. If people learn anything today, take notice of the "karma" statement. Live by this ideology in life. I guarantee you it will serve you well.............NEVER EVER NEVER think you are "getting over." It aint possible!

 

[staggalee83]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

I have to question Cleveland's motives. All he touts is this guy's experience while totally overlooking his previous unsuccessful stints as a HC. Its the same thing with McKenzie. Its like he's so hell-bent on us naming an alum that he's totally over looking very qualified candidates like John Shannon and Mike White. And his comments about Comegy's qualifications tells me he'd like us to stay in our own HBCU world. Maybe I'm reading too much into that one but still. Anyway the only way we move forward is by hiring the best coach available, wherever he's from. The fans will be back once we start winning.

One thing about Cleveland, he's always struck me as one of those old-tymers who would love for things to go back to the way they used to be in the 80's. Unfortunately that's not gonna happen. The only way you move forward is to hire the candidate that best suits your needs today. Where would USC be if they thought this way? Or Oklahoma?

In this case concerning Rick Cleveland, I can say he has been consistant in his commentary about JSU the last 2 years. He really has not been trashing us, just telling the truth as I see it.

On this issue, like this article, I think this is the 3rd person he has highlighted. He has not given an endorsement to 1 potential candidate over another. Just getting interviews with people to see how they stand.

About being an ole timer, no doubt he's that. He reflex's on JSU past like he's an Alumni or something. Guess you can contribute that to all the years he has covered and wrote about us.

The way I see it, GOOD INFO IS GOOD INFO. :nod:

 

[coldsweat]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

You said a mouth full with what is in the bold print. If people learn anything today, take notice of the "karma" statement. Live by this ideology in life. I guarantee you it will serve you well.............NEVER EVER NEVER think you are "getting over." It aint possible!

:nod: Man, I certainly hope JSU can get it right this time. But for some odd reason, I have this strange feeling that the ugly head of alumni will show its face and we will forever be stuck on this merri-go-round of karma! :shame:

*says silent prayer right now*

 

[Mr. Tiger]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

According to Mark Alexander(who's usually right about these things), Shannon is interested in the job. And I really don't see him getting a D-1A job anytime soon. Don't get me wrong, he's good. But him making the jump from MAC coordinator to D-1A headcoach anytime soon is a big stretch. He was just the WRs coach last year.

As for Jackson, he makes about 300K as Michigan's assistant HC. Unless he's willing to take a big pay cut we can't afford him - even with Pete Richardson money.

If Shannon is interested that's great. And you are right, Mark is usually on the money about these things. As far as Jackson, I know he makes more now than we can offer but Lloyd Carr is expected to retire soon and that means a new coach and new staff. He is 55. He may want the chance to be a head coach now at his alma mater before he has to search for another job or retire in a few years. I sure would contact him and see if I am the search committee.

 

[staggalee83]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

As a native Jacksonian with JSU roots in my family. I co-sign that article. Cleveland spoke the truth. For the life of me I do not understand the cold shoulder JSU has given both WC Gorden and Walter Reed. They need to embrace their past. I think that is something that has haunted them since they ignored it in the 90s after WC retired from coaching.

Anyway, Harold Jackson is good people. I am familiar with his family and worked with some of his people in the past. He is highly thought of and is a JSU man through and through. He would be a good choice to restore some of that pride and swagger to the JSU program that ole JR saw growing up. Money should not be a stumbling block this time. If it is then it will be too bad. Comegy would be a good coach there as well. But I think the relationship between the fans and the program is so bad right now that maybe only a JSU man or one with JSU ties could mend the fences. Bell's damage to the program far exceeded the results on the field. He alienated to many JSU supporters during his time and if someone like Comegy got hired, he would have be able to really step up and get the community back. That is tough for an outsider. We know how all our schools can be clickish at times.

This will be interesting. LOL at the comment from Harold basically saying Culbertson will have to be gone for him to work there. Sounds like Culby better send out some resumes. Mason has to fire that guy. Nobody trusts that dude. I would assume Jackson, McKenzie and Comegy names are the ones high on the list since Cleveland is endorsing them. Good read.

:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:

That's the way I see it.

The man is only telling the truth wether or not people want to hear it. If this was another writer doing this with less time here in Jackson, I would question if he was trying to "GUIDE" JSU in our decision.

This guy has covered and wrote about JSU for decades and at no time can I say he has wrote bad things or trashed us for no reason. :nod:

 

[JSU/99]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:

That's the way I see it.

The man is only telling the truth wether or not people want to hear it. If this was another writer doing this with less time here in Jackson, I would question if he was trying to "GUIDE" JSU in our decision.

This guy has covered and wrote about JSU for decades and at no time can I say he has wrote bad things or trashed us for no reason. :nod:

That last statement is interesting. He's trashed us many times before this. Even going back to the Gordon firing. In the mid 90's when we were winning he trashed u about the missing equipment fiasco(which had nothing to do with sports) and how unorganized we were. In a University our size, there's always going to be negative things that you can highlight. He's a columnist so if that's what he wants to do then fine. But don't expect me to cheer him on. Especially when he gives USM and MSU the opposite treatment.

Also, and maybe this is just me, but the entire article has a paternalistic feel to it. And its not just this article but almost all of his articles about JSU. Whatever's going at a JSU, I don't want any sportwriter taking a "father knows best" apporach when it comes to us. The fact is John Mackenzie and Harold Jackson aren't the most qualified candidates for this job. But he feels that's who we should hire because it would be "best" for us to hire an alum. Or maybe Comegy because he's done a good job at "historically black universities" before. Its almost like he's telling us we should stick to our own and stay away from Dwight Mann's coaches. Again, maybe its just me. But that kind of thinking will keep you 2 steps behind.

One last thing about Bell: We all know he failed. But let's not mistake WHY he failed. It had nothing to do with his being an outsider or his lack of HBCU experience. Those factors may have played a minor role, but it was at best a marginal reason for his failures. The reason Bell failed was because he didn't know what he was doing as a headcoach. Some assistants just aren't headcoaching material and he's one of them. Bell's failings were mostly personal. We could've hired someone from a similar background with a better nack for coaching and public relations and he would've done fine.

 

[mighty hornet]

Re: Is Jackson the Man for JSU............Clarion Ledgers Rick Cleveland

Comegy would be a good coach there as well.

:smh:

TP was actually on to something when he made a couple of comments about Comegy not long ago (not about the "name his own price" from a couple years ago. LOL )