Re: If Your Religion Helps You Cope......
dacontinent
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Let me answer this again for you. Please don't miss it this time.
His record proves Him to be true. Precept upon precept; line upon line; line upon line.
Dacon, if you're referring to the bible, then I must tell you that it's full of inaccurate and unfulfilled prophecies which never came to pass.
Here are a few:
--The prophecy seems further not to apply to Jesus, for it says that the Messiah "will be ruler over Israel". Jesus was not any ruler over Israel. In fact, he himself is supposed to have denied that his kingdom was of this world (John 18:36). Also, the ruler is to make Israel a secure place to live (Mic 5:4), but that certainly did not happen. It is understandable why Jews, reading Micah, believe that their Messiah has not yet come.
--Another alleged prophecy that was claimed in Matthew 1:22-23 to have been fulfilled by Jesus is based on Isaiah 7:14, which is said to predict a certain virgin birth. But there are many problems with that. As a matter of fact, Isaiah 7:14 was fulfilled under King Ahaz and has nothing to do with Jesus.
--According to Ge 2:17, Adam will die the same day that he eats the fruit, but that did not come about, since, according to Ge 5:5, Adam lived to age 930. [Note that the same Hebrew word for "die" is used as elsewhere in the Old Testament, standing for physical death.] There's no documented evidence of humans living to be 500, 600, 700, 800 and 900 plus years of age except in the bible.
--According to Ge 4:12,14, Cain will be a fugitive and a vagabond, and constantly subject to assassination, but that did not come about, for, according to Ge 4:16-17, Cain had a wife and family, and lived in the same area all his life, and built a city.
--Jer 34:5 prophesied that Zedekiah will die in peace, but according to 2Ki 25:7 and Jer 52:10-11, that did not happen. Instead, he saw his sons killed, was carried off in chains, blinded, and eventually died in prison.
The statement of precept upon precept is highly flawed. Precepts must be accurate and reliable in order to be precepts.
Ps 138 KJV
1 I will praise thee with my whole heart: before the gods will I sing praise unto thee. 2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy lovingkindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified thy word above all thy name. 3 In the day when I cried thou answeredst me, and strengthenedst me with strength in my soul. 4 All the kings of the earth shall praise thee, O Lord, when they hear the words of thy mouth. 5 Yea, they shall sing in the ways of the Lord: for great is the glory of the Lord. 6 Though the Lord be high, yet hath he respect unto the lowly: but the proud he knoweth afar off. 7 Though I walk in the midst of trouble, thou wilt revive me: thou shalt stretch forth thine hand against the wrath of mine enemies, and thy right hand shall save me. 8 The Lord will perfect that which concerneth me: thy mercy, O Lord, endureth for ever: forsake not the works of thine own hands.
What does this prove. Muslims worship and praise their "god" in just the same fashion, but that's no proof that he's the one true god. As a matter of fact, both the Christian and Muslim "god" is the SAME god. LOL!!
JayRob, if you ever push past what I or any other man says and trust God simply for what he has said of Himself, you will come into a completely new area of enlightenment that will transform you entirely. I have been praying this very thing for you since I read you first post and will continue to do so.
Are you asking me to blindly trust in a "being" who supposedly inspired a book that's riddled with historical inaccuracies, unfulfilled prophecies, plagiarized writings from previous religions he himself labelled as pagan. Why would I trust in a deity who contradicts his own scientific laws when he supposedly created those same laws? Why would I want to believe in such a deity? LOL!!
