"How Hip Hop Bandits destroyed Black Power"


JSU*Toi

JSU*Toi

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There is a saying in Afrocentric circles that when the European missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land and when they left, we had the Bible and they had the land. In terms of Hip Hop, when white missionaries in the form of corporate executives came to the ?hood, they had the 20-inch rims and courvoisier and we had the music. When they left, we had the rims and courvoisier and they had the music. We traded our dashikis for Rocawear, our African medallions for platinum chains and our souls for a moment to shine in front of White America. As it is said, we crossed over and couldn?t get black.
 



True, true

Yeah, thats on point about hip hop. Nowadays, you don't get radio airplay unless you are talking about "shaking it fast" or "rolling on dubs". The brothers making music with a positive message can't get a break in the rap game. They are all selling out of the trunk or hustling off a website that rap fans are scared to put their credit card info on.
 
Uh huh......and I wonder how many of you people agreeing don't care what kind of car you drive, what kind of clothes you wear, and don't listen to any kind of hip-hop.:rolleyes: I guess this is one of those "do as I say not as I do" type things.
 
Accountability.

Individuals ultimately make a decision as to what they do. I don't see HH as the problem, just like I don't see guns as a problem. It's the people who make wrong decisions that are the problem. I have listened to HH every since it started and not once has HH made me do something without me making the ultimate decision. I don't know why, in this country, we always got to find something to blame everything on, why there must be a scapegoat. Some mugz just make stupid decisions for whatever reasons and it's their fault, but it's just that we got a system in which lawyers and rationalize anything and sell it to the gullable public masses.

Hip-hop is not big in islamic countries, but look at some of the other stuff they do that people here think is bad and against the rights of humans. It all boils down to the mind of the human being and a decision.
 
2011, nine years later and same story. Wow!!

JSU*Toi said:
There is a saying in Afrocentric circles that when the European missionaries came to Africa, they had the Bible and we had the land and when they left, we had the Bible and they had the land. In terms of Hip Hop, when white missionaries in the form of corporate executives came to the ?hood, they had the 20-inch rims and courvoisier and we had the music. When they left, we had the rims and courvoisier and they had the music. We traded our dashikis for Rocawear, our African medallions for platinum chains and our souls for a moment to shine in front of White America. As it is said, we crossed over and couldn?t get black.
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In Montgomery we have an on-going serious problem with black youths identifying with two Rap groups based on geography. There have been 4 shootings with mutiple individuals being shot and killed. A 70 year old women was shot in a public housing project and an 18 year old was killed in a shootout. In Sept an 18 month old child was shot in a local park and many others were wounded in a shoot out caught between the two groups while attending a reunion. This past saturday night a 19 year old rapper was killed while performing in a local night spot. A group of youth busrt into the club and started shooting, killing the young man and injuring 10 others. It was said the perpertrators were protecting their turf. We have southside/westside rappers v Eastside/northside rappers. I was told my some youths today that I just don't understand. One tried to sell me a CD for $3. I told him to keep the CD and made a $3 donation. We have a sub culture festering in nation and hip hop is a common denominator. What are we to do.
 
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jag4life said:
Doesn't make sense to me. There are many more legal black entrepreneurs because of the hip hop culture.
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(No Pun Intended) I think a lot of our culture has been tarnished and long forgotten because of a lot of the hip-hop stars of today. To tell you the truth P-Lies or whatever his name is will never talk about the beautiful trees of Africa or some good fashioned politics because his rhymes are about dope, hard liquor and etc. which we know most of his life style is purely illegal--You know he smokes weed so that lets you know his game ain't that full proof!
 
Tight situation in Montgomery JC. I hope the crap doesn't impact the Turkey Day Classic and thousands of innocent fans from Tuskegee and Alabama State.
 
By methodically buying out rap record labels, the corporate majors were able to silence progressive voices promoting rappers who would embody an image of black people that corporations felt more comfortable with.

As odd as it may sound, the white establishment feels much safer with the image of a black man toting a gun with his pants sagging as opposed to the image of a black man, or woman, bucking the system via their lyrics.

Corporations pretend to avoid controversial topics and themes. Yet, when it comes to songs featuring black men degrading black women, that is never too controversial. And when it comes to black men rapping about senseless violence directed towards other black men, that is never too controversial or too political. However, if a black rapper, of either gender, addresses the plague of police brutality then the artist is labeled as too controversial.

The clear message they are sending is that if you are black and willing to rap about what they want you to rap about you will be rewarded. However the minute you dare try to step outside of the box and attack their power structure, you will be omitted.
 



Well said Toi...Hip Hop is a culture and it was created by blacks to define part of the black culture...now...it's crap.
 
kendrick said:
By methodically buying out rap record labels, the corporate majors were able to silence progressive voices promoting rappers who would embody an image of black people that corporations felt more comfortable with.

As odd as it may sound, the white establishment feels much safer with the image of a black man toting a gun with his pants sagging as opposed to the image of a black man, or woman, bucking the system via their lyrics.

Corporations pretend to avoid controversial topics and themes. Yet, when it comes to songs featuring black men degrading black women, that is never too controversial. And when it comes to black men rapping about senseless violence directed towards other black men, that is never too controversial or too political. However, if a black rapper, of either gender, addresses the plague of police brutality then the artist is labeled as too controversial.

The clear message they are sending is that if you are black and willing to rap about what they want you to rap about you will be rewarded. However the minute you dare try to step outside of the box and attack their power structure, you will be omitted.
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This sums it up right there, and the thing is they were probably looking for a escape goat in the form of people who would be willing to rap about alternatives such as selling dope to undo those political damages done by KRS-One and Public Enemy! Also what that means is that they were probably trying to discredit those groups and their followers by saying all rap music is polluted WHILE controlling all the money it generated with hardcore gangster rap! All I can say is *snake* and that is coming from the fact that I believe to my soul that they are as hypocritical as anything with the ultimate desire to make money anyway they can!
 
kendrick said:
By methodically buying out rap record labels, the corporate majors were able to silence progressive voices promoting rappers who would embody an image of black people that corporations felt more comfortable with.

As odd as it may sound, the white establishment feels much safer with the image of a black man toting a gun with his pants sagging as opposed to the image of a black man, or woman, bucking the system via their lyrics.

Corporations pretend to avoid controversial topics and themes. Yet, when it comes to songs featuring black men degrading black women, that is never too controversial. And when it comes to black men rapping about senseless violence directed towards other black men, that is never too controversial or too political. However, if a black rapper, of either gender, addresses the plague of police brutality then the artist is labeled as too controversial.

The clear message they are sending is that if you are black and willing to rap about what they want you to rap about you will be rewarded. However the minute you dare try to step outside of the box and attack their power structure, you will be omitted.
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They don't feel safe with that image as a whole. They don't mind it as long as it stays in the hood and black boys are killing each other over it and thier kids aren't practicing what is preached.

There is a reason why you will most likely hear Donald Glover, Lupe, Jurassic 5, Tyler the Creator and a few others getting blasted on white radio stations, tv shows and video games. Yet you wil be hard presss to see any of them in the black community or in the black media.


To tell you the truth P-Lies or whatever his name is will never talk about the beautiful trees of Africa or some good fashioned politics because his rhymes are about dope, hard liquor and etc. which we know most of his life style is purely illegal--You know he smokes weed so that lets you know his game ain't that full proof!
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One thing you have to understand about guys like Plies is they are FAKE to the CORE. However they are stuck with producing what the young and unedcated want to hear in order to get that cd sold. Plies does have some songs that will make you think and they do comment on the black community's sad state. However no one who doesn't buy the cd will ever know that.
 
By the Time I Get to Arizona....MESSAGE

Fugg the Police....MESSAGE

I'm really happy that Common does not change his style to save face even his records are not top sellers. I heard he has a new one coming out.
 
kendrick said:
As odd as it may sound, the white establishment feels much safer with the image of a black man toting a gun with his pants sagging as opposed to the image of a black man, or woman, bucking the system via their lyrics.
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He's not an economic threat to his legacy.
 
Black folks still blaming music for our problems huh? What you should be blaming is the parents that dont bother teaching their kids that just because someone on a music video is spraying an AR-15 in a crowd doesn't mean you should do it. I think it's safe to say most of us knew the difference between reality and tv/radio, so should they. If folks would stop lettin the tv/radio raise their kids there wouldn't be these issues.
 
unknown1 said:
What you should be blaming is the parents that dont bother teaching their kids that just because someone on a music video is spraying an AR-15 in a crowd doesn't mean you should do it.
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And you know that will never happen among our people. You do that and you don't get reelected, money in church and for us in education-those parents demanding we get fired for DARING thier child to behave or do better. That's why folks have written us off because we don't have the guts to call ourselves out. Sooner or later the line has to be drawn.

Those hood folks have more respect for a TI and those dumb rappers that keep getting into legal trouble than that guy in the White House or the ones that died for Civil Rights or constantly proved that we are more than ghetto stereotypes.
 
unknown1 said:
Black folks still blaming music for our problems huh? What you should be blaming is the parents that dont bother teaching their kids that just because someone on a music video is spraying an AR-15 in a crowd doesn't mean you should do it. I think it's safe to say most of us knew the difference between reality and tv/radio, so should they. If folks would stop lettin the tv/radio raise their kids there wouldn't be these issues.
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LOL...Their parents are a part of the hip hop generation. It's not the music but the sub culture it represents.
 
When in doubt, blame hip hop for Black America's problems. Always state the problem but never want to give a solution for it, TYPICAL....
 
GoodFella said:
When in doubt, blame hip hop for Black America's problems. Always state the problem but never want to give a solution for it, TYPICAL....
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We can offer all the solutions that we want. People just don't want to hear them. Nobody wants to be the bad guy. Nobody wants to see the truth staring at them. For some those solutions mean losing MONEY and POWER.
 
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