Homosexual Adoptions


Dr. Sweet NUPE

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Last night my sister and I recieved some good news from two of our friends. They have been approved to legally adopt a child. The child is a mixed little girl. The issue is they are a Gay couple, one white and the other black, both Male.

What do you all think about Homosexuals adopting children? I see no problem with it as long as they allow the child to be who he/she wants to be and most importantly be loved in a caring home.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
Last night my sister and I recieved some good news from two of our friends. They have been approved to legally adopt a child. The child is a mixed little girl. The issue is they are a Gay couple, one white and the other black, both Male.

What do you all think about Homosexuals adopting children? I see no problem with it as long as they allow the child to be who he/she wants to be and most importantly be loved in a caring home.
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NO! Plain and simple!
 



CS,

I feel you and understand but I'm kinda in the middle. Having known these guys for about 10 years they have been preparing for parenthood. I'm not condoning their lifestyle but there are a lot of kids out there who need good homes.

Now the term Good is relative, meaning what I see as good the next person may see as bad. Maybe I look at this situation because I know both of the guys and I want to adopt one day.

But hey I respect your opinion.
 
Dr. Sweet NUPE said:
CS,

I feel you and understand but I'm kinda in the middle. Having known these guys for about 10 years they have been preparing for parenthood. I'm not condoning their lifestyle but there are a lot of kids out there who need good homes.

Now the term Good is relative, meaning what I see as good the next person may see as bad. Maybe I look at this situation because I know both of the guys and I want to adopt one day.

But hey I respect your opinion.
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I'm kind of in the middle on this issue also. I'm not for gay couples adopting, but when they can provide a good home for a child I'm for them adopting. I think Russ Par talked about this issue yesterday morning. It's hard enough to get heterosexual couples to adopt kids, so it's hard not to let gay couples adopt when and if they can provide a stable home environment.
 
buckwheat1911 said:
I'm kind of in the middle on this issue also. I'm not for gay couples adopting, but when they can provide a good home for a child I'm for them adopting. I think Russ Par talked about this issue yesterday morning. It's hard enough to get heterosexual couples to adopt kids, so it's hard not to let gay couples adopt when and if they can provide a stable home environment.
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Russ Parr was talking about it on yesterday...which is a better...two openly Gay parents that are good providers...or a foster parent who does not give a damn?
 
As much as I abhor sugarpop couples I say yes they should be able to adopt. There are SOOOOOO many children, especially black children, in the foster care system that it's ridiculous. My son was in the system years ago and the family that had him was using social services as a cash cow. The case worker responsible for handling his case (which was in another state) told us that at one time he was put in a spanish speaking home with 6 other children and all of them were kept locked away in a room like animals. These people were collecting checks for all 7 of them and not giving them the love, nourishment and all the other things children need. When we adopted him he was considered developmentally delayed and weighed only 31 lbs at 3 1/2 years old. He was very thin and slow at almost everything he did. He also had some minor behavior problems.

When we brought him back to Louisiana my immediate family and my wife's immediate family welcomed him with loving arms. They hugged and kissed him all day long. He was so happy and quickly blended in with his new family. He finally had parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, godparents, cousins, friends and a little brother on the way.

On Monday he will be 7 yrs old. He weighs 65 lbs and we can't seem to keep him away from the dinner table. He is a 1st grade student at a private school, reads on a 3rd grade level and makes all A's except in Math (he's a b/c student in math so far). Last night, he got his first hit in little league baseball and told me he's gonna play baseball for Grambling (all i could do is shake my head).:lol:

I won't go on and on about him but I really love my son and hate to think about where he might be if my wife and I had not decided to adopt. One might say well, someone else would have adopted him but the truth of the matter is that most people want to adopt babies and the older a child gets the less likely it is that he/she will be adopted. Because of this my wife and I decided to adopt an older child.

If we hadn't he might still be in the system, not receiving real love, not having his own family and would probably never don a Grambling State University baseball uniform.

The bottom line in all of this, though, is whether or not a child is better off in a loving home with two sugarpops or being in a system that doesn't guarantee stability. I say he should be in a home where he's gonna receive love and stability. Not ideal but it's better than the foster system.
 
Kudos to you, your wife, & family GramFan :tup: :tup:!

Yes, I see nothing wrong with allowing a gay couple to adopt. If they are going to give the child a loving and safe home that is all that is important.
 
GramFan said:
As much as I abhor sugarpop couples I say yes they should be able to adopt. There are SOOOOOO many children, especially black children, in the foster care system that it's ridiculous. My son was in the system years ago and the family that had him was using social services as a cash cow. The case worker responsible for handling his case (which was in another state) told us that at one time he was put in a spanish speaking home with 6 other children and all of them were kept locked away in a room like animals. These people were collecting checks for all 7 of them and not giving them the love, nourishment and all the other things children need. When we adopted him he was considered developmentally delayed and weighed only 31 lbs at 3 1/2 years old. He was very thin and slow at almost everything he did. He also had some minor behavior problems.

When we brought him back to Louisiana my immediate family and my wife's immediate family welcomed him with loving arms. They hugged and kissed him all day long. He was so happy and quickly blended in with his new family. He finally had parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, godparents, cousins, friends and a little brother on the way.

On Monday he will be 7 yrs old. He weighs 65 lbs and we can't seem to keep him away from the dinner table. He is a 1st grade student at a private school, reads on a 3rd grade level and makes all A's except in Math (he's a b/c student in math so far). Last night, he got his first hit in little league baseball and told me he's gonna play baseball for Grambling (all i could do is shake my head).:lol:

I won't go on and on about him but I really love my son and hate to think about where he might be if my wife and I had not decided to adopt. One might say well, someone else would have adopted him but the truth of the matter is that most people want to adopt babies and the older a child gets the less likely it is that he/she will be adopted. Because of this my wife and I decided to adopt an older child.

If we hadn't he might still be in the system, not receiving real love, not having his own family and would probably never don a Grambling State University baseball uniform.

The bottom line in all of this, though, is whether or not a child is better off in a loving home with two sugarpops or being in a system that doesn't guarantee stability. I say he should be in a home where he's gonna receive love and stability. Not ideal but it's better than the foster system.
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Gramfan I want to kiss you and your wife and praise you to Jesus all day long! :bowdown:

I am the owner and operator of a private adoption agency and the first baby I placed with graduate with honors from high school in a year. I have placed MANY children and the blessing to both the child and the parents are nothing short of awesome. In the last 18 years I have endeavored to educate our community about the joys of adoption and how we stigmatize adoption. Adoption has always been a part of our community, but to do it legally and outside the family is often shunned. We got to get out of that mentality that causes children to grow up in foster care instead of a loving home.

And to answer the question from an expert's view, yes, gays should be allowed to adopt. THAT'S FINAL!
 
GramFan said:
As much as I abhor sugarpop couples I say yes they should be able to adopt. There are SOOOOOO many children, especially black children, in the foster care system that it's ridiculous. My son was in the system years ago and the family that had him was using social services as a cash cow. The case worker responsible for handling his case (which was in another state) told us that at one time he was put in a spanish speaking home with 6 other children and all of them were kept locked away in a room like animals. These people were collecting checks for all 7 of them and not giving them the love, nourishment and all the other things children need. When we adopted him he was considered developmentally delayed and weighed only 31 lbs at 3 1/2 years old. He was very thin and slow at almost everything he did. He also had some minor behavior problems.

When we brought him back to Louisiana my immediate family and my wife's immediate family welcomed him with loving arms. They hugged and kissed him all day long. He was so happy and quickly blended in with his new family. He finally had parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, godparents, cousins, friends and a little brother on the way.

On Monday he will be 7 yrs old. He weighs 65 lbs and we can't seem to keep him away from the dinner table. He is a 1st grade student at a private school, reads on a 3rd grade level and makes all A's except in Math (he's a b/c student in math so far). Last night, he got his first hit in little league baseball and told me he's gonna play baseball for Grambling (all i could do is shake my head).:lol:

I won't go on and on about him but I really love my son and hate to think about where he might be if my wife and I had not decided to adopt. One might say well, someone else would have adopted him but the truth of the matter is that most people want to adopt babies and the older a child gets the less likely it is that he/she will be adopted. Because of this my wife and I decided to adopt an older child.

If we hadn't he might still be in the system, not receiving real love, not having his own family and would probably never don a Grambling State University baseball uniform.

The bottom line in all of this, though, is whether or not a child is better off in a loving home with two sugarpops or being in a system that doesn't guarantee stability. I say he should be in a home where he's gonna receive love and stability. Not ideal but it's better than the foster system.
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wow, what a great story...good for you and your wife...what a blessed child. :tup:

now, that sugarpops comment had me rolling. :lmao:
 
Seeing Spots said:
Gramfan I want to kiss you and your wife and praise you to Jesus all day long! :bowdown:

I am the owner and operator of a private adoption agency and the first baby I placed with graduate with honors from high school in a year. I have placed MANY children and the blessing to both the child and the parents are nothing short of awesome. In the last 18 years I have endeavored to educate our community about the joys of adoption and how we stigmatize adoption. Adoption has always been a part of our community, but to do it legally and outside the family is often shunned. We got to get out of that mentality that causes children to grow up in foster care instead of a loving home.
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You are sooooo right and you have done wonderful things with your agency. Awesome!
 
silentrage said:
Kudos to you, your wife, & family GramFan :tup: :tup:!

Yes, I see nothing wrong with allowing a gay couple to adopt. If they are going to give the child a loving and safe home that is all that is important.
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Exactly:tup: :tup: :tup: :tup:
 
I agree that the ideal situation is for a husband and wife to adopt a kid. I dont have any problems with any family / person (gay, straight, black, white,yellow or brown) whatever adopting a child if they can provide the child with love, support and an opportunity for a good life.

There are too many unadopted kids out there to limit them to two parent hetero families.
 
GramFan said:
As much as I abhor sugarpop couples I say yes they should be able to adopt. There are SOOOOOO many children, especially black children, in the foster care system that it's ridiculous. My son was in the system years ago and the family that had him was using social services as a cash cow. The case worker responsible for handling his case (which was in another state) told us that at one time he was put in a spanish speaking home with 6 other children and all of them were kept locked away in a room like animals. These people were collecting checks for all 7 of them and not giving them the love, nourishment and all the other things children need. When we adopted him he was considered developmentally delayed and weighed only 31 lbs at 3 1/2 years old. He was very thin and slow at almost everything he did. He also had some minor behavior problems.

When we brought him back to Louisiana my immediate family and my wife's immediate family welcomed him with loving arms. They hugged and kissed him all day long. He was so happy and quickly blended in with his new family. He finally had parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, godparents, cousins, friends and a little brother on the way.

On Monday he will be 7 yrs old. He weighs 65 lbs and we can't seem to keep him away from the dinner table. He is a 1st grade student at a private school, reads on a 3rd grade level and makes all A's except in Math (he's a b/c student in math so far). Last night, he got his first hit in little league baseball and told me he's gonna play baseball for Grambling (all i could do is shake my head).:lol:

I won't go on and on about him but I really love my son and hate to think about where he might be if my wife and I had not decided to adopt. One might say well, someone else would have adopted him but the truth of the matter is that most people want to adopt babies and the older a child gets the less likely it is that he/she will be adopted. Because of this my wife and I decided to adopt an older child.

If we hadn't he might still be in the system, not receiving real love, not having his own family and would probably never don a Grambling State University baseball uniform.

The bottom line in all of this, though, is whether or not a child is better off in a loving home with two sugarpops or being in a system that doesn't guarantee stability. I say he should be in a home where he's gonna receive love and stability. Not ideal but it's better than the foster system.
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AMEN!
 
gramfan....you've done a great thing. hopefully it'll inspire more of us to open our hearts and homes to children who need both. as for homosexuals being allowed to adopt....I don't think it should be allowed. I understand that it's convient b/c there are lots of children that need a home but that doesn't mean it's right to put them into a gay home. Me and my wife haven't adopted yet but it's something we've talked about. we're waiting for our children to get a little older and for the manifistation of some expected blessings. more christian families should adopt. I know some of you might disagree but imho, it's not just about love, it should also be a home that teaches a child to love and serve Jesus. there is sin everywhere and in every home. I don't want to see any child placed somewhere that they aren't taught the difference between right and wrong or where it is seen as normal or natural. so if it's homeosexuality, or drunkeness, continuous infidelity, racism or any number of other things those families should be excluded from the process. does it mean that some children, maybe even a lot of children won't get placed? possibly...likely. will a crisis like that spur more people to investigate the possibility of adopting? possibly...hopefully.
 



GramFan said:
As much as I abhor sugarpop couples I say yes they should be able to adopt. There are SOOOOOO many children, especially black children, in the foster care system that it's ridiculous. My son was in the system years ago and the family that had him was using social services as a cash cow. The case worker responsible for handling his case (which was in another state) told us that at one time he was put in a spanish speaking home with 6 other children and all of them were kept locked away in a room like animals. These people were collecting checks for all 7 of them and not giving them the love, nourishment and all the other things children need. When we adopted him he was considered developmentally delayed and weighed only 31 lbs at 3 1/2 years old. He was very thin and slow at almost everything he did. He also had some minor behavior problems.

When we brought him back to Louisiana my immediate family and my wife's immediate family welcomed him with loving arms. They hugged and kissed him all day long. He was so happy and quickly blended in with his new family. He finally had parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, godparents, cousins, friends and a little brother on the way.

On Monday he will be 7 yrs old. He weighs 65 lbs and we can't seem to keep him away from the dinner table. He is a 1st grade student at a private school, reads on a 3rd grade level and makes all A's except in Math (he's a b/c student in math so far). Last night, he got his first hit in little league baseball and told me he's gonna play baseball for Grambling (all i could do is shake my head).:lol:

I won't go on and on about him but I really love my son and hate to think about where he might be if my wife and I had not decided to adopt. One might say well, someone else would have adopted him but the truth of the matter is that most people want to adopt babies and the older a child gets the less likely it is that he/she will be adopted. Because of this my wife and I decided to adopt an older child.

If we hadn't he might still be in the system, not receiving real love, not having his own family and would probably never don a Grambling State University baseball uniform.

The bottom line in all of this, though, is whether or not a child is better off in a loving home with two sugarpops or being in a system that doesn't guarantee stability. I say he should be in a home where he's gonna receive love and stability. Not ideal but it's better than the foster system.
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Beautiful! :tup: :tup:

I hope to adopt one day, later on in life. And I want to adopt an older child (maybe early teens).

As far as homosexual adopting: I have mixed feelings. But if I had to be "yea" or "nay," I would rather see a child in a loving, STABLE environment--- if it just had to be a homosexual couple, so be it.
 
GramFan, what you and your wife did is quite admirable; Hats off to you both for that. Hats off to other couples who have done the same. As for the homosexuals adopting kids, I gonna have to say, NO; I don't think they should be allowed to adopt.
 
I don't agree with homosexual adoptions.

:topic: I just recommended to my Moma to adopt her a child since she wants a grandchild so badly. I'm gonna look into it for her. She says she would like a 5yr. old little boy.

:tup: GramFan to you and your wife and to SS.
 
As a person that works with young people, advocates for them strongly - I would absolutely have no problems with a gay couple adopting a child or children.

Without gettin on my soapbox, who am I to say what someone else should or shouldnt do in their own personal life. I dont have to answer for their actions - nor do they for mine. And in the grand scheme of things, I have so much other stuff going on in MY LIFE - I dont have time to even think about someone else's lifestyle or whatever. And this continues to be an issue (gays) that - unless you are gay - should be a non issue for the rest of us that are not gay. It continues to be an issue when we should be concentrating on education, employment, a better quality of lifestyle for ALL people - we will NEVER be able to legislate issues of MORALITY - and instead of realizing that fact, we continue to get caught up in that instead of the actual issues of importance.

Okey dokey - im off of my box, good day :tophat:
 

I kind of have mixed feelings about gays adopting children but I also feel that A LOVING home is better than NO loving home at all.

But the BIGGER question is why so many of OUR folks frown upon adopting?
Even in my OWN family and others, I have often heard them say silly things like "chile, you don't know whatcha gettinm when you adopt - them kids might be crazy" and other assanine statements. You DON'T know what you're getting when you have your own biological kids either.

I STILL don't understand this attitude that many African Americans have towards adopting children. And worse, if they do adopt, babies are the adopted kids of choice. And the older the child gets, the less likely they are to BE adopted. For some reason, they are looked at as damaged goods. These are children and all children want to be loved - period.

So, UNTIL more African American families and couples start adopting OUR children, I don't think we can really sit back and deny others who want to adopt or raise kids.

That's just my take on it. BTW, my sister was adopted by my dad and stepmother when she was two. I was 13 at the time. I TOLD that stupid social worker that MY dad and his CRAZY wife [my stepmother] are the LAST two people who need to have kids. Basically, my dad was physically and verbally abusive...and his wife was just crazy as heyul. But from OUTSIDE appearances, they looked like the perfect middle-class couple and prize prospects to be adopting parents. SHHHHIIIIII.......!!!! :D

Anyway, carry on.....:headphone






 
major095 said:
gramfan....you've done a great thing. hopefully it'll inspire more of us to open our hearts and homes to children who need both. as for homosexuals being allowed to adopt....I don't think it should be allowed. I understand that it's convient b/c there are lots of children that need a home but that doesn't mean it's right to put them into a gay home. Me and my wife haven't adopted yet but it's something we've talked about. we're waiting for our children to get a little older and for the manifistation of some expected blessings. more christian families should adopt. I know some of you might disagree but imho, it's not just about love, it should also be a home that teaches a child to love and serve Jesus. there is sin everywhere and in every home. I don't want to see any child placed somewhere that they aren't taught the difference between right and wrong or where it is seen as normal or natural. so if it's homeosexuality, or drunkeness, continuous infidelity, racism or any number of other things those families should be excluded from the process. does it mean that some children, maybe even a lot of children won't get placed? possibly...likely. will a crisis like that spur more people to investigate the possibility of adopting? possibly...hopefully.
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I agree! The adoption of children is needed for black children but I don't agree with homosexuals or Gay couples adopting children. The message that they are sending is too wrong. Morality has a lot to do with this issue.
 
NO.

One thing about Gramfan's testimony is the fact that HE and his WIFE adopted this child and have made a difference in his life. The success story of a heterosexual MARRIED couple is not springboard for GAY LOVERS to raise children.

Many of you in here are Christian. As any christian knows, you don't 'grade' sins one worse than the other. HOWEVER, any christian that loves the lord also knows that walking the path of righteousness means to FLEE ALL APPEARANCES OF SIN. Homosexuality is W.R.O.N.G. period ! If you love the lord and appreciate the sacrafice that Jesus made for us all, then it is hypocrtitical to claim that A HOMOSEXUAL LIFESTYLE is accceptable. You can argue with me but be prepared to argue with the scripture if this is your choice. . . . and THAT'S FINAL !!!!

Yes, foster care can be problematic. Yes, there are many heterosexual couples raising kids the wrong way. But does this mean that we through baby out with the bath water? Do we place a child in a home that God despises because we as HUMAN BEINGS judge the character of a Gay person and WE AS HUMAN BEINGS approve of them. I think not. I tend not to challenge the word of the lord and since someone who openly defies the will of God and has no intention of repenting is, in effect, challenging the word of God. . .

I CAN'T THINK OF A WORSE PLACE FOR A CHILD TO BE !!!!!
 
I'm all for adoption, by anybody and everybody that can love and nurture a child and can provide a stable living environment, whether they're gay, lesbian or straight...

I'd say only when all of the children that can be adopted, HAVE BEEN adopted, can we start putting limits on who and who can't adopt.....
 
Homosexuals shouldn't be allowed to adopt or get married. If it was meant for 2 guys or 2 girls to have kids, then men could walk around for 9 months pregnant or women could contain the sperm to fertilize an egg. It's not meant to be and it's wrong plain and simple.
 
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