HBCUs: The Backup Plan for D1 Knuckleheads


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The Founder said:
To me it's not a bad back up given the circumstances. I know this sounds crazy but how many of you know a dude who came from the straight poor hood.....got an education at a black school and made some good out of himself.

Now yes the article makes it sound so damn bad but hell the white schools don't give a shit about them..


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I know a lot of those who probably wouldn't have got into any other schools and got their degrees and doing well for themselves. I commend those (student-athlete or not).

I'm cool with those people. IF the "knuckleheads" referred to in this thread did that then no one would mind their past indiscretions. But a good number of these cats dream of going to the NFL and they know ANY FCS school school gives them a slim chance compared to a D2 school (pretty much no chance) when we weren't on their radar initially.
 
CEE DOG said:
Ga Southern gets transfers, Appalachian St gets transfers, Jacksonville St gets transfers, Maine. North Dakota. Why yall ain't downing them or mad at them?
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I agree. All FCS schools load up on transfers from FBS schools. To act as if HBCUs are the only one that takes these troubled kids is a flat out lie. They have just as many as we do. None of us are willing to pass up on the talent.
 



CEE DOG said:
Ga Southern gets transfers, Appalachian St gets transfers, Jacksonville St gets transfers, Maine. North Dakota. Why yall ain't downing them or mad at them?
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:tup: I agree. Some of these folks can't stand for a school in their own conference to come up. These crab in the barrell azz Iggas are sad.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
:tup: I agree. Some of these folks can't stand for a school in their own conference to come up. These crab in the barrell azz Iggas are sad.
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:tup:....I hate that he has to be labeled "troubled." Shit he may be a good kid who just needs the right communication....
 
Crabs in a barrell? Who said they were unhappy with ASU getting this guy?

Who said HBCUs were the "only" schools to take these guys?

Y'all suck at reading comprehension, but I'm not sure it's worse than the persistent glossing over the behavior of these people while placing the blame on others.

The way some of you think is ... interesting. To say the least.
 
I Have A Quick Question.....

Are HBCUs look at the same as their FCS counterparts? See, we need to put down our HBCU Pride and read up on REALITY more.
 
SUJagFan said:
The thing I find interesting in this thread is how so many are convinced Georgia did this kid wrong. Is this guy responsible for any of his behavior or are white people always to blame?

Wasn't this guy arrested 3 or 4 times before this incident? Had trouble with attending class and drug use? At what point is he to be held accountable for his actions? Why do we consider his dismissal from a PWC so wrong and that a HBCU would have "protected" him? Really? So, all of this stuff would have been ignored at a HBCU? Could that be one of the reasons these kids don't respect HBCUs and use them as a last resort?

Maybe HBCUs should draw the line on some folks too. Not be so willing to "protect" or coddle people who insist on being a knucklehead. Maybe then they'll get a little more respect among these kids.

Because that "protect" these guys no matter what they do attitude is like the neighborhood ho letting everybody hit and then wondering why nobody respects her. Why everybody treats her like crap. Gotta stop accepting and taking any and everything.
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:clap: Damn Somebody else who gets it...Well said! :tup:

Robber said:
Just shameful to perpetuate the outright lie you're perpetuating. Casey walked away from that fiasco.
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Too bad he didn't walk away before throwing his one punch :whatever:


The Founder said:
:tup:....I hate that he has to be labeled "troubled." Shit he may be a good kid who just needs the right communication....
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No he is a bad kid who needs/needed more of these...
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This thread is turning into a joke. Pwc's and hbcu's alike take adavantage and piss over athletes regardless of race. I have seen it with my own two eyes. In Crowells situation he has been a screw up sense high school. Parents, guardians, and coaches alike have enabled his piss poor behavior. UGA gave him a chance. Alabama state is giving him a second chance. Hell i thought Troy, UAB, or some other lower level fbs school or a upper level fcs school would give him a shot. Not a crime when a guy getsa second chance. Some on this board always wanna be militant and throw the race card on the table. UGA is notat fault for Crowells behavior. I applaud Richt for kicking him to the curb.
 
Man, Fcuk Crowell., Dude is a career fcuk up. He had plenty of chances. If shat don't work at bama state, the criminal justice system should do us a favor and lock his azz away.
 
It is always the white man's fault. He started this mess back in the 1700's, and he continues it today. Blah with whitey and his slave abuse of the brotha man. Run Tobey run. Jump boy, jump!!!! Slaves are willing to eat the cornbread and chitlings for massa.
 
I went overboard last night, blame the 1738. However, I don't have sympathy for these jokers. Maybe I am jaded because I saw the ones Comegy brought in.
 
SUjagFan made some good points. Really every school whether it's NAIA,D2 or D1AA will get the D1 athletes who are not satisfied with their playing time or they get into with it the head coach. But back to SUjagFan's point: Remember Maurice Clarett of Ohio State, it was rumored at that time that he was going to transfer to Grambling after his run in with Coach Tressel. All of Maurice's troubles as everyone now knows,where his own doing. Sometimes these athletes are so pampered while they are in high school and when they get to college (especially the SEC),they really find out how talented they are or not. Maybe some of them just can't accept the reality that they are not as good as they think they are.

Are these athletes emotionally ready as a grown ups to handle adversity in college should be the first question? Some of these athletes act as though they have the emotional maturity of a 6 year old rather than the emotional maturity of an adult. If they don't get their way,they throw a tantrum,pout,or do crazy things to get attention just like a 5 year old.

Every school in the SWAC has or had D1 transfers that worked out and some didn't. These star athletes,really in my opinion look down on any school that is not an FBS school anyway,you can imagine what think about HBCU's. NFL scouts don't forget these athletes troubles at the big schools. Freddie Fairchild ALL SEC linebacker at Arkansas got into some trouble up on the Hill( Physically abused his girlfriend-) played one year at UAPB. With all those stats in the SEC as a starter at Arkansas,the NFL passed him up.Sure they may get a second chance at HBCU's but if the baggage is to heavy for the NFL,they won't even look at the player. In twist of fate,they get the degree at the HBCU and go on to have productive lives with a degree in which they probably never would have received at the big school.
 



mighty hornet said:
ummm pops,
Crowell is 19 years old.
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That means he's a grown man and responsible for his behavior.

I'll never forget my first day of college. It seems all the professors that day were speaking from the same script. The speech went something like this: "You are an adult. We will treat you like one. If you don't want to come to class, then don't come to class. If you don't want to study, then don't study. Don't have your parents calling up here. You're an adult now. Handle your own business ...."

I was bright-eyed and bushy-tailed, but I got the message. If you want to be successful in life, it is going to be determined by the choices you make. Make good choices and more than likely good things are going to happen. Make bad choices and more than likely bad things are going to happen. Either way, you are responsible.

It wasn't too long ago in this country that a 15 year old could be considered a man. Many 15 year old young men bought them a mule and struck out on their own. Went to work and raised a family. Now, we want to baby people until they are 27. This is ridiculous.

Let a man be a man. That's one of the problems in this country. Too many people who should be men acting like boys and we tolerate it. Even make excuses for it. Men, we need to stop this. It doesn't help us at all. It doesn't help our daughters and our future grandchildren. It doesn't even even help the young men that we're babying. It only cripples them and makes them more dysfunctional.
 
ummmm jagfan,
That was in reference to pops' "career" comment. And of course, you walked 50 miles one way to school and of course, you have always led a perfect life and never made any mistakes, did dumb things, made bad choices, even as teenager, even when you were in school.

Save the holier than thou, I'm perfect and always have been perfect speech for somebody who may buy it.
 
mighty hornet said:
ummmm jagfan,
That was in reference to pops' "career" comment. And of course, you walked 50 miles one way to school and of course, you have always led a perfect life and never made any mistakes, did dumb things, made bad choices, even as teenager, even when you were in school.

Save the holier than thou, I'm perfect and always have been perfect speech for somebody who may buy it.
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The fact remains that if I did make a mistake as a teen or young adult, I would be responsible. Not the white man and all of these other excuses y'all are trying to make.

Allowing people to place blame other than where it really belongs doesn't help them. And that's the truth whether you like it or not.
 
When I said he did it I mean he threw a punch. Was it the punch that killed the guy? Maybe not but he was a willing participant in the fight. Did he learn from his mistake? It appears so but the mindset present at the fight and outside the club/grill/restaurant got him in the predicament he was in.


jsupop33 said:
A lie ain't nothing to tell, huh. Come on Herb? You ain't got to tell a lie this big.
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Considering the way these people think, the only way there will be a revolution is if somebody else fights it for them.

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SUJagFan said:
Considering the way these people think, the only way there will be a revolution is if somebody else fights it for them.

:smh:
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Don't worry brother, we gone leave the white women. Everything else is gonna be part of the revolution
 
I should have known this thread was going to go in the opposite direction on the SWAC Page...LOL....

- Crowell brought this on himself. If he had been at one of our schools, I am sure he would have been dismissed as well. However, his parents, coaches, and others enabled his behavior since he was in high school because he could play ball (definitely not the first or last time this will happen), so there are other people who assisted him in getting where he is today. I hope he has realized the second chance that he recieved and the opportunities that he has squandered.

- If Barlow can get him to come to Alabama State and turn the kids life around, then I will be estatic because another Black kid got a chance at life and an education (whether he makes it to the NFL or not). He needs to be humble

- I see both sides of the argument because I applaud the fact that we give kids second chances (athletically and academically), but I also wonder will I ever live to see the day when HBCUs return to being the first choice for more kids again. (I do recognize that some of that is our administrations and graduates faults that don't always promote a positive image of our institions). While I know recent HBCU grads (including myself) that chose to attend an HBCU and it was their first choice over the PWIs that they were accepted to, we are losing those types of kids year by year (black or white). But unfortunately, as many of you say those days are gone and never coming back. I hope you guys are wrong. Good luck to Crowell at ASU, except for against TSU of course :-)
 
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