HBCU Accmulative Ticket Sales from 2005 to 2013


GoodFella said:
The first step would be to end all classics except the MCC, BC, SFC LDC and maybe SHC. We really need to give back to our schools and more home games to promote businesses in the surrounding areas. This would be all money in from an HBCU perspective, it helps all parties involved. Revamp our old ways over promoting games meaning less Classics, no 3rd party people at all. Make the AD's earn their keep. No need to promote the old way anymore when you can see live footage of schools and what they're about over the web? IMO classic's are a thing of the past except the traditional ones. The seed was planted in the 80's and hatched in the 90s, it withered away in the 00's. We should be reaping the benefits by bringing more excitement around campus and promoting it online. I'm glad UAPB and GSU do home and home now, all money in mentality. When PV builds its stadium they should play every game they can their even TXSO lol. Bama State need to play schools like Troy and JVSU. Their rivalry with Jackson State is growing, especially since both schools have been battling and having classic games. Cities like Huntsville, Jackson, Montgomery, Little Rock and Baton Rouge are the hidden jewels of the south. Its past time we start promoting it. A lot of those kids from up north are coming back south anyways. These cities are the key, with Houston being the money maker in the end.
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Is that why there are so many FBS classics popping up lately? :confused:
 



JSUDMJ2004 said:
Dr. Glover already squashed the thought of going to the SWAC last year...TNSU is ran pretty well athletic dept wise Mrs.Phillips is doing a good job but you guys some of the worst fans with a pretty good program I have seen.
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*in Stone Cold voice*

And that's the bottom line...

jag4life said:
Is that why there are so many FBS classics popping up lately? :confused:
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We saw what happened when we had wipe open offenses (a.k.a. c__n ball) and decided to "fit in" with everyone else.

The legendary Kickoff Classic in Jerry World
 
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tsutiger said:
. In the last 10 games JSU is ... a Casey Therriault away from being 0-10.
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09/13/04 Tenn. St. 21 vs Jackson St. 20 = +1 = 55,015
09/10/05 Tenn. St. 20 vs Jackson St. 14 = +6 = 48,300 OT
09/16/06 Tenn. St. 31 vs Jackson St. 30 = +1 = 53,441 OT
09/08/07 Tenn. St. 16 vs Jackson St. 13 = +3 = 50,879
09/12/09 Tenn. St. 14 vs Jackson St. 7 = +7 = 43,306
09/11/10 Jackson St. 33 vs Tenn. St. 26 44,688
09/10/11 Jackson St. 35 vs Tenn. St. 29 43,532

The last 10 years could very easily be 7-3 in JSU's favor. We are gonna win this year.
 
tsutiger said:
I see there are a lot of uninformed posters on this board who have no clue about the business of college athletics or basic business for that matter. It’s also sad you guys take great pride in being the FCS attendance leaders, but feel no way about being last in football and basketball. In the last 10 games JSU is 2-8 vs. TnSU and a Casey Therriault away from being 0-10. Yet seems as long as JSU has more fans then us they are cool with losing every year on the field. This year will be no different. You guys will beat us in attendance but get your ass kicked on the field.

LOOK WE ARE NOT THE SEC OR BIG TEN. Footballs barely pays its own bills, yet alone carry the entire athletic budget. In the SEC and Big Ten. Yes. MEAC, SWAC, OVC, or any other FCS school. Hell no.

How can a SWAC or HBCU fan read this thread and not be embarrassed by what some posters are saying. We have Bama A&M posters saying how TnSU needs the swac but their ticket sales were nearly half of ours. Instead of worrying about TnSU he needs to look in the mirror and see WTF is going wrong at AAMU.
U are already in the SWAC and still don't have any fans.

We are talking about a 9 year period were TnSU averaged $785,209 in ticket sales. Not even a million. We don’t have a bigger fan base then JSU who averaged $1,124,471 so at best I see an increase of maybe 150K in ticket sales if TnSU were to join the SWAC. I personally don’t want our student athletes (volleyball, softball, track, basketball, golf, and tennis) having to take bus ride to Louisiana and Texas for increased football revenue by 150K.

Please, Please, Please, Please stop comparing HBCU’s to the SEC. Someone mentioned TAMU leaving the Big 12 for the SEC. That was a great move for them. It allowed them to get from under UT’s shadow, and from the TV deal alone they are set to make tons of cash. Ohio State will make what FAMU made (#1 in HBCU football revenue) over that 9 year period in one season from student tickets.

On the real you crab in the barrel ****** need to wake up. Please wake up.

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More empty rhetoric I see ...

The reason I used aTm's move to the SEC wasn't because they have considerably more money than us HBCUs, it's because at the end of the day aTm saw the dollars and made the best decision for them. At the FBS level this round of conference realignment has a hell of a lot more to do with the money and maximizing revenue. Also, college football is driving the train.

I used aTm as an example because you were outchea flaunting geographic proximity as some great and grand way to save on expenses. Texas A&M was part of the Big 12 with closer travel to member schools. However, when push came to shove and the SEC came over talking about them getting more money over there than they stood to make in the Big 12, aTm jumped ship.

At the end of the day, TnSU has to look long and hard on whether membership in the OVC is really worth it ... just like some of our member schools have discussed/plan to discuss whether membership in the SWAC is really worth it.

At the end of the day, the name of the game in college athletics is to maximize your product and revenue streams.

Please, inform me ... what is TnSU doing to maximize revenue? Why are OVC members not showing up at LP Field or Hale? Why are your own fans not showing up at LP Field or Hale when TnSU plays other OVC members? Since you've used geographic proximity as a qualifier, please tell me why those other OVC fans weren't showing up in Nashville (a great city to visit, BTW).

Provide me with a SWOT analysis of the situation?

I'll be waiting over here.

BTW: For the sake of transparency, 2005-2013 was a terrible, terrible stretch for Southern football (post-Katrina, end of Pete Richardson's run, the Stump Mitchell experiment, LaFluer as AD, etc.) until we broke through and won the SWAC under Big Worm.
 
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jag4life said:
Is that why there are so many FBS classics popping up lately? :confused:
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I agree that classics are a thing of the past but its not the concept that broken, it's the system. The big boys are starting to have classics in ATL, Dallas, DC, etc... but they have major sponsors and expensive tickets. For classics to survive, we need the big boys in BCF to participate to get the crowds back and hopefully better sponsors. We rarely get the good matchups anymore.
 
Tigerpride said:
I agree that classics are a thing of the past but its not the concept that broken, it's the system. The big boys are starting to have classics in ATL, Dallas, DC, etc... but they have major sponsors and expensive tickets. For classics to survive, we need the big boys in BCF to participate to get the crowds back and hopefully better sponsors. We rarely get the good matchups anymore.
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If there was a plan with vision for the SWAC it would've been to sew up the major HBCU classics with member schools and put those games in a TV deal to broadcast those games. However, I'm afraid that boat has sailed.
 
jag4life said:
Is that why there are so many FBS classics popping up lately? :confused:
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When it comes to generating money for your school yes they are thing of the past. What real classic besides the one in the Bahamas popped up? You honestly think that game will draw well? Why play a school in siberia when you showcase it at home and promote your school? You confusing yourself because all you do is troll every comment I make on the board sheesh....
 
Journalist said:
More empty rhetoric I see ...

The reason I used aTm's move to the SEC wasn't because they have considerably more money than us HBCUs, it's because at the end of the day aTm saw the dollars and made the best decision for them. At the FBS level this round of conference realignment has a hell of a lot more to do with the money and maximizing revenue. Also, college football is driving the train.

I used aTm as an example because you were outchea flaunting geographic proximity as some great and grand way to save on expenses. Texas A&M was part of the Big 12 with closer travel to member schools. However, when push came to shove and the SEC came over talking about them getting more money over there than they stood to make in the Big 12, aTm jumped ship.

At the end of the day, TnSU has to look long and hard on whether membership in the OVC is really worth it ... just like some of our member schools have discussed/plan to discuss whether membership in the SWAC is really worth it.

At the end of the day, the name of the game in college athletics is to maximize your product and revenue streams.

Please, inform me ... what is TnSU doing to maximize revenue? Why are OVC members not showing up at LP Field or Hale? Why are your own fans not showing up at LP Field or Hale when TnSU plays other OVC members? Since you've used geographic proximity as a qualifier, please tell me why those other OVC fans weren't showing up in Nashville (a great city to visit, BTW).

Provide me with a SWOT analysis of the situation?

I'll be waiting over here.

BTW: For the sake of transparency, 2005-2013 was a terrible, terrible stretch for Southern football (post-Katrina, end of Pete Richardson's run, the Stump Mitchell experiment, LaFluer as AD, etc.) until we broke through and won the SWAC under Big Worm.
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You forgot to add that Piyush became Louisiana's Governor during that time period and Grambling's people can tell you how bad it is with him as the State's Governor.
 
GoodFella said:
When it comes to generating money for your school yes they are thing of the past. What real classic besides the one in the Bahamas popped up? You honestly think that game will draw well? Why play a school in siberia when you showcase it at home and promote your school? You confusing yourself because all you do is troll every comment I make on the board sheesh....
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HBCU vs PWI Classics are the thing of the future !
 
tsutiger said:
How can a SWAC or HBCU fan read this thread and not be embarrassed by what some posters are saying. We have Bama A&M posters saying how TnSU needs the swac but their ticket sales were nearly half of ours. Instead of worrying about TnSU he needs to look in the mirror and see WTF is going wrong at AAMU.
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Where in this thread did any AAMU poster mention Tennessee State? What are you talking about bro.?
 



GoodFella said:
When it comes to generating money for your school yes they are thing of the past. What real classic besides the one in the Bahamas popped up? You honestly think that game will draw well? Why play a school in siberia when you showcase it at home and promote your school? You confusing yourself because all you do is troll every comment I make on the board sheesh....
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"FBS" classics in Dallas, Houston, ATL, plus the rotating Notre Dame classics. Then you have Arkansas vs A&M in Jerry's world also.
 
The PWI's don't want to partner with HBCUs for classics..lol..Grambling tried it and when certain people wanted to validate how it was going to be pulled off and revealed the contracts, certain FBS PWI schools jumped ship...when Tech and Grambling State played, Tech fans weren't interested like GSU fans were and same with ULM and GSU...their fans think their too good to show up but if they got to play LSU or someone like that, they would foam at the mouth just for the right to buy nosebleed seats

JROCK said:
That's the bottom line. When Gramblings start implementing their student fees, the liability to their school will be reduced more. Band fan is worried about Bayou Classic money going into the general fund and PV is using 3 times more money out of their general funds than S.U. (bet he doesn't post that again). :lol: :emlaugh:
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at the end of the day we saw who struggled during the recession and who didn't..what is a furlough?
 
the band fan said:
The PWI's don't want to partner with HBCUs for classics..lol..Grambling tried it and when certain people wanted to validate how it was going to be pulled off and revealed the contracts, certain FBS PWI schools jumped ship...when Tech and Grambling State played, Tech fans weren't interested like GSU fans were and same with ULM and GSU...their fans think their too good to show up but if they got to play LSU or someone like that, they would foam at the mouth just for the right to buy nosebleed seats



at the end of the day we saw who struggled during the recession and who didn't..what is a furlough?
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On Grambling........The Shreveport Classic was always Grambling's classic to begin with. Grambling has been playing in classics with PWC off and on for about 5 decades (try again). :lol: :emlaugh:

On Southern......So what S.U. struggled more during the recession. The fact remains that 60% of your football program is funded out of your schools "general funds." You so worried about The Great Southern University and where Bayou Classic funds are being placed until you didn't realize that PV football program is pilfering 3 times the amout or 6.1 million dollars from their general funds. Face it, you all have a long way before you're able to compete with S.U. fan base wise as well as revenue from gate receipts. Why else would you people be building a stadium about half the size of Mumford. :smh: :lol: :emlaugh:
 
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the band fan said:
The PWI's don't want to partner with HBCUs for classics..lol..Grambling tried it and when certain people wanted to validate how it was going to be pulled off and revealed the contracts, certain FBS PWI schools jumped ship...when Tech and Grambling State played, Tech fans weren't interested like GSU fans were and same with ULM and GSU...their fans think their too good to show up but if they got to play LSU or someone like that, they would foam at the mouth just for the right to buy nosebleed seats
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We walked away from the Port City Classic vs Tech with 750k and there are plenty FCS football programs in LA TX and Arkansas wanting to play in Shreveport. Grambling vs Northwestern State will draw 30k+ in Shreveport
 
Everything goes in circles. I think HBCU's should focus on building the rivalries to maximize profit. I know many like playing YT but soon YT will not play us due to power points and wanting to make the playoffs so HBCU's are all we have.
 
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and the next year Alcorn came and it failed....NW State and GSU did a home and home and I never recalled 30K....

JROCK..what's a furlough?
 
Tigerpride said:
09/13/04 Tenn. St. 21 vs Jackson St. 20 = +1 = 55,015
09/10/05 Tenn. St. 20 vs Jackson St. 14 = +6 = 48,300 OT
09/16/06 Tenn. St. 31 vs Jackson St. 30 = +1 = 53,441 OT
09/08/07 Tenn. St. 16 vs Jackson St. 13 = +3 = 50,879
09/12/09 Tenn. St. 14 vs Jackson St. 7 = +7 = 43,306
09/11/10 Jackson St. 33 vs Tenn. St. 26 44,688
09/10/11 Jackson St. 35 vs Tenn. St. 29 43,532

The last 10 years could very easily be 7-3 in JSU's favor. We are gonna win this year.
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Yawn.
 
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