nevaehinvesting
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We have a band, choir, jokes, women teaching, good time, good teaching, etc at my church.
I look at it like Gamaliel looks at it in Acts 5:33 when people wanted to condemn the apostles for what was going on in the church.
Gamaliel said, "If what they're doing is not from God, don't worry about hating them because what they're doing will come to ruin anyway. (the bad tree won't produce good fruit)."
He went on to say, "IF what these guys are doing IS from God, than you're stones, discouraging words, judging, hating, etc CAN'T stop them anyway!" (the good tree will always produce good fruit).
My question is not, "Does your church tell jokes, does your church have instruments, does your church have women wearing pants, do all the men wear suits, etc." I think those are silly questions sometimes.
Better questions are,
1) "Even though your church has a band, does the music help to give some hope?"
2) "Even though your church seems to laugh a lot, is someone getting closer to Jesus?"
3) "Even though a woman got there and explained salvation instead of a man, did you get the message of Jesus' Love for you? (though some don't like the messenger).
4) What is your church doing for the members, city, state, nation, world, or you?
If a women explain the gospel, and 250 people get saved, do we say Praise Jesus, or what the 'L' was she doing up there? I know what I say, and sadly, I think I know what some of the posters here would say.
As I said, my church does a lot of things that some saints may have a problem with. Some of the things go against others traditions, religions, and bible understanding, BUT the reason we never lose steam, we never slow down, we never worry about what people say is because GOD has His hand on it and it shows by the fruit we produce.
Simply put,
People don't want other people to get saved. People only want other people to get saved according to their own limited understanding of God. We only want to see someone get saved IF it's done without women involved, without instruments involved, without etc...That's Sad! People don't think that God will save, can save, wants to save, a man or women in any way different than how they think it should be done. Even if you know the bible back and forth, you still don't know all that God can do and the various ways He can do it, especially regarding church services. No one has God "down pact" or "figured out".
God's principles don't change, but the applications of His principles change everyday! (more on this later)
That's why some un-conventional things are going in church services today that are working the nevrves of some convetnional saints, espceailly since God is using those same un-conventional things to save people daily. (more on this later)
So, quote all of the scripture you want for, or against something, but if GOD is using it to help folks, "it won't stop, it can't stop, it don't stop." -Diddy You can only watch & hate/wonder...
gota go to work...
I look at it like Gamaliel looks at it in Acts 5:33 when people wanted to condemn the apostles for what was going on in the church.
Gamaliel said, "If what they're doing is not from God, don't worry about hating them because what they're doing will come to ruin anyway. (the bad tree won't produce good fruit)."
He went on to say, "IF what these guys are doing IS from God, than you're stones, discouraging words, judging, hating, etc CAN'T stop them anyway!" (the good tree will always produce good fruit).
My question is not, "Does your church tell jokes, does your church have instruments, does your church have women wearing pants, do all the men wear suits, etc." I think those are silly questions sometimes.
Better questions are,
1) "Even though your church has a band, does the music help to give some hope?"
2) "Even though your church seems to laugh a lot, is someone getting closer to Jesus?"
3) "Even though a woman got there and explained salvation instead of a man, did you get the message of Jesus' Love for you? (though some don't like the messenger).
4) What is your church doing for the members, city, state, nation, world, or you?
If a women explain the gospel, and 250 people get saved, do we say Praise Jesus, or what the 'L' was she doing up there? I know what I say, and sadly, I think I know what some of the posters here would say.
As I said, my church does a lot of things that some saints may have a problem with. Some of the things go against others traditions, religions, and bible understanding, BUT the reason we never lose steam, we never slow down, we never worry about what people say is because GOD has His hand on it and it shows by the fruit we produce.
Simply put,
People don't want other people to get saved. People only want other people to get saved according to their own limited understanding of God. We only want to see someone get saved IF it's done without women involved, without instruments involved, without etc...That's Sad! People don't think that God will save, can save, wants to save, a man or women in any way different than how they think it should be done. Even if you know the bible back and forth, you still don't know all that God can do and the various ways He can do it, especially regarding church services. No one has God "down pact" or "figured out".
God's principles don't change, but the applications of His principles change everyday! (more on this later)
That's why some un-conventional things are going in church services today that are working the nevrves of some convetnional saints, espceailly since God is using those same un-conventional things to save people daily. (more on this later)
So, quote all of the scripture you want for, or against something, but if GOD is using it to help folks, "it won't stop, it can't stop, it don't stop." -Diddy You can only watch & hate/wonder...
gota go to work...
