Falcons might urge Vick to take paid leave

[Kendrick]

Don't they know there are serial killers, and rapists running around on our streets, that they're wasting our money on somebody cheating on ball games. Schit, they need to find something else better to do with their time.

Shouldn't they be going after the mob for murders, money laundering, and extortion, instead of getting them on gambling. The nerve of the FBI.

NICE

The FBI could care less about one NBA official, they want him to sqeal on the mob members he is involved with.

Plus, the FBI has already broken up seven dog fighting rings this years and just yesterday seized the largest marijuana distribution ring in the country.

The FBI is not in the business of telling everything that they do. There is no "FBICENTER" where they loop FBI happenings 24 hours.

This situation is getting so much attention in the sports world because it involves an official that could have possibly fixed basketball games.

 

[D-NICE]

The FBI could care less about one NBA official, they want him to sqeal on the mob members he is involved with.

Plus, the FBI has already broken up seven dog fighting rings this years and just yesterday seized the largest marijuana distribution ring in the country.

The FBI is not in the business of telling everything that they do. There is no "FBICENTER" where they loop FBI happenings 24 hours.

This situation is getting so much attention in the sports world because it involves an official that could have possibly fixed basketball games.

I was being sarcastic kendrick.

NICE

 

[Kendrick]

I was being sarcastic kendrick.

NICE

I know. I just was trying to bait you.:swink:

 

[PsiSnake]

Sidenote......
I bet Big Boi of Outkast and his brother are watching this case. They breed Pit Bulls as well. Not saying they are selling them for fighting purposes. But I am sure they are nervous due to his celebrity status. The Feds will probably be looking at all Pit Bull Kennels to see what is up.

...Big Boi was on the news last night because of his new movie premier that was shown here at the Woodruff Arts Center last night.

You know the reporter asked him a question about his kennel business, and he was like he aint into dogfighting. All he do is breed, raise and sell. He's sold Pit Bulls to Serena Williams, and a couple of other celebrities that I forgot.

But about the Vick case itself, if he can get off on the conspiracy charges, he will walk. The feds would need real valid proof to do so; like a tape or some camera footage; and the rumor is somebody got Vick on footage or whatever at a dogfight. That footage must stay away from the courtroom.

LOL

"Snake"

 

[unknown]

I know someone personally that bought a dog from Big Boi and he will ask you before he even sells you the dog if you're going to fight it. The line of dogs that he sells (blues) aren't really fighting dogs.

 

[EB]

I agree with you. I'm just trying to figure out what's the big problem. Bring the man to trial and get over with it. Shat a damn U.S. Senator who ran on a platform of "FAMILY VALUES" is being outed for his relationship with hookers and I don't see the media all over his azz. I mean this man is a United States law/decision maker for this whole damn country and I don't see the ACLU, CNN, FOX, BB KING, CP3, Megatron, or anyone else making a big deal about. I guess we'll see someone from PETA on that Deadliest Catch show next crying about the King crab's are being treated bad.

These are good points. But understand the horrible shape of the major media outlets.

I think what ignited this investigation was the fact that the FEDS were originally after his drug dealing cousin and stumbled upon this dog fighting operation during the raid at Vick's home. To put it simple, the FEDS don't play. They make a career on prosecuting high profile cases like this.

......

This is true.

 

[EB]

NFL Follows Public's Leadhttp://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/47045

1 day ago :: 21829 Views
NFL policy is starting to confuse me. When the Michael Vick indictment first came down, commissioner Roger Goodell wanted the "the legal process to determine the facts." Now Goodell, in a letter to Vick, writes: "It is my responsibility as commissioner of the NFL to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies."

In short, Goodell is saying there's no time for the legal process to determine the facts, so I'm going to have to do it. Vick can't go on as the quarterback of the Falcons because doing so will leave the Falcons and the league vulnerable to an ever-growing wave of public scorn.

What I don't understand is how exactly Goodell is suddenly going to figure out if Vick violated league policies. Is he going to launch his own investigation? Is he going to talk to prosecutors? If that's the plan, why hadn't they done that before? Or is he just going to read the headlines like the rest of us?

......

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Falcons had planned to suspend Vick before NFL told them to hold offhttp://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2947821

ESPN.com news services

Updated: July 24, 2007, 8:24 PM ET

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Since the end of last season, Goodell has used the new conduct policy to suspend Adam "Pacman" Jones of the Tennessee Titans for the entire 2007 season. Chris Henry of Cincinnati and former Chicago Bear Tank Johnson were given eight-game suspensions for various run-ins with the law.
The commissioner isn't ready to impose sanctions on Vick.

Not yet anyway.

"I would like to, before any decisions are made about the futures of any player, understand the facts as best as possible," Goodell said. "I thought it was in our best interest to make sure we did do that."

 

[Blacknbengal]

I guess we'll see someone from PETA on that Deadliest Catch show next crying about the King crab's are being treated bad.

This is so true. We'll see that or some old tree hugger talking about outlawing eating green vegetables, cause spinach and lettuce have feelings too.

 

[D-NICE]

NFL Follows Public's Leadhttp://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/47045

1 day ago :: 21829 Views
NFL policy is starting to confuse me. When the Michael Vick indictment first came down, commissioner Roger Goodell wanted the "the legal process to determine the facts." Now Goodell, in a letter to Vick, writes: "It is my responsibility as commissioner of the NFL to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies."

In short, Goodell is saying there's no time for the legal process to determine the facts, so I'm going to have to do it. Vick can't go on as the quarterback of the Falcons because doing so will leave the Falcons and the league vulnerable to an ever-growing wave of public scorn.

What I don't understand is how exactly Goodell is suddenly going to figure out if Vick violated league policies. Is he going to launch his own investigation? Is he going to talk to prosecutors? If that's the plan, why hadn't they done that before? Or is he just going to read the headlines like the rest of us?


EB, the NFL has launched their own investigation, and right now, technically Vick has not been officially suspended, he's just been told not to report. Once Goodell gets his info from his investigative team, then they'll decide what penalty if any to levy against Mike.

You had to see this was coming though, once people start protesting outside of the league's office, and threatening to do the same at one of the league's teams training facilities, and sponsor's start pulling stuff, and threatening to pull stuff, the league was in no other position but to do what it did. It's bad for business, plain, and simple. Not saying that it's right, but it's definitely bad when the head man from the NFL has to fight through picketers to get to his office.

NICE

 

[unknown]

Damn....so no Vick and it's lookin like Warrick Dunn won't be there to start the season either. Poor pigeons...I tried to told ya'll that you messed up when you got rid of Schaub.:shame:

 

[SONNY]

Have the PETA folks gotten started yet?

 

[PsiSnake]

Damn....so no Vick and it's lookin like Warrick Dunn won't be there to start the season either. Poor pigeons...I tried to told ya'll that you messed up when you got rid of Schaub.:shame:

...how so?

Schaub rode the bench. He hadn "really" proved anything significant. If Schaub was still here, he bout on the same level (maybe less) with Harrington IMO. The jury still out on Harrington IMO, but he does have more game time experience than Schaub.

"Snake"

 

[Blacknbengal]

...how so?

Schaub rode the bench. He hadn "really" proved anything significant. If Schaub was still here, he bout on the same level (maybe less) with Harrington IMO. The jury still out on Harrington IMO, but he does have more game time experience than Schaub.

"Snake"

Right. Schaub really didnt show anything to me during those preseason games. I guess it was him or the system he was in or it could have been both.

 

[EB]

NFL Follows Public's Leadhttp://www.fannation.com/blogs/post/47045

1 day ago :: 21829 Views
NFL policy is starting to confuse me. When the Michael Vick indictment first came down, commissioner Roger Goodell wanted the "the legal process to determine the facts." Now Goodell, in a letter to Vick, writes: "It is my responsibility as commissioner of the NFL to determine whether your conduct, even if not criminal, nonetheless violated league policies."

In short, Goodell is saying there's no time for the legal process to determine the facts, so I'm going to have to do it. Vick can't go on as the quarterback of the Falcons because doing so will leave the Falcons and the league vulnerable to an ever-growing wave of public scorn.

What I don't understand is how exactly Goodell is suddenly going to figure out if Vick violated league policies. Is he going to launch his own investigation? Is he going to talk to prosecutors? If that's the plan, why hadn't they done that before? Or is he just going to read the headlines like the rest of us?


EB, the NFL has launched their own investigation, and right now, technically Vick has not been officially suspended, he's just been told not to report. Once Goodell gets his info from his investigative team, then they'll decide what penalty if any to levy against Mike.

You had to see this was coming though, once people start protesting outside of the league's office, and threatening to do the same at one of the league's teams training facilities, and sponsor's start pulling stuff, and threatening to pull stuff, the league was in no other position but to do what it did. It's bad for business, plain, and simple. Not saying that it's right, but it's definitely bad when the head man from the NFL has to fight through picketers to get to his office.

NICE

I wonder why didn't Goodell have an investigation or a review weeks ago. But he went from wanting the legal process to take care of itself to issuing a ruling on whether Vick violated league policies. I think he saw the way the winds were blowing. Of course I know that pro sports are sensitive to public sentiment. I am also not surprise by the outrage at Vick.

While people are giving Goodell of credit on this matter, it seems to me that he was a bit unprepared after the indictment.

Right. Schaub really didnt show anything to me during those preseason games. I guess it was him or the system he was in or it could have been both.

Schaub is fortunate that he is in a similar offensive system in Houston.

 

[pbla]

...Big Boi was on the news last night because of his new movie premier that was shown here at the Woodruff Arts Center last night.

You know the reporter asked him a question about his kennel business, and he was like he aint into dogfighting. All he do is breed, raise and sell. He's sold Pit Bulls to Serena Williams, and a couple of other celebrities that I forgot.

But about the Vick case itself, if he can get off on the conspiracy charges, he will walk. The feds would need real valid proof to do so; like a tape or some camera footage; and the rumor is somebody got Vick on footage or whatever at a dogfight. That footage must stay away from the courtroom.

LOL

"Snake"

I hope you right frat. But the FBI ain't the Mayberry and Green Acres police department. They ain't Barney Fife. This was a 4 year investigation. I read somewhere that percentage of FBI indictments that where the defendants were proven guilty is 95%. The FBI has brought down powerful mobs in New York, Las Vegas,L.A. This investigation is a walk in the park for them;ain't much of a challenge for the FBI to bring down some un-organized thugs who are breaking the law. These guys are very thorough. Man... Vick would have stood a better chance of a rape allegation from a White woman than his chances that are listed in the indictment.

 

[PsiSnake]

I hope you right frat. But the FBI ain't the Mayberry and Green Acres police department. They ain't Barney Fife. This was a 4 year investigation. I read somewhere that percentage of FBI indictments that where the defendants were proven guilty is 95%. The FBI has brought down powerful mobs in New York, Las Vegas,L.A. This investigation is a walk in the park for them;ain't much of a challenge for the FBI to bring down some un-organized thugs who are breaking the law. These guys are very thorough. Man... Vick would have stood a better chance of a rape allegation from a White woman than his chances that are listed in the indictment.

....I know man.

Have you read the indictments? I just finished. Bruh, it dont look good based on what I just read. They got my man placed at several fights; even got a cooperating witness stating that he sold a pit AND was present at a fight with Vick there. You right about the high percentage of Federal cases being proven guilty. The only person I know that beat the Feds was O.J; and they(white folks) still hot about that. Aint know way they gone let another brother walk.

But to each its own; they "just dogs" to me. I wouldn fight mine if I had one, but if you fight yours thats your business, ain in it and dont care; besides there are more important matters in this world than fugggin animal rights.

I'm wishing for the best for Vick; he got my prayers and support 1000%.

"Snake"

 

[Blacknbengal]

But to each its own; they "just dogs" to me. I wouldn fight mine if I had one, but if you fight yours thats your business, ain in it and dont care; besides there are more important matters in this world than fugggin animal rights.

I'm wishing for the best for Vick; he got my prayers and support 1000%.

"Snake"

I feel the same.

 

[unknown]

Trial date set, November 26th

 

[pbla]

....I know man.

Have you read the indictments? I just finished. Bruh, it dont look good based on what I just read. They got my man placed at several fights; even got a cooperating witness stating that he sold a pit AND was present at a fight with Vick there. You right about the high percentage of Federal cases being proven guilty. The only person I know that beat the Feds was O.J; and they(white folks) still hot about that. Aint know way they gone let another brother walk.

But to each its own; they "just dogs" to me. I wouldn fight mine if I had one, but if you fight yours thats your business, ain in it and dont care; besides there are more important matters in this world than fugggin animal rights.

I'm wishing for the best for Vick; he got my prayers and support 1000%.

"Snake"

Yeah I read the indictments.:smh:
LOL hey frat O.J. beat the LA police department. The Feds weren't involved in that. See the LAPD could not place O.J or prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that O.J was there between 10:15 and 11 somethingPM.

Now in Vick's case it's alleged that they have him at the site,on a picture phone. Hopefully it's something like the highly publicized "ski mask" that the media reported before the O.J. trial. When the trial started the prosecution said there was no ski mask. Anyway all the evidence will come out in the trial.

 

[Blacknbengal]

Vick pleads not guilty to charges

Vick pleads not guilty to charges

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) - Michael Vick pleaded not guilty Thursday to federal dogfighting charges and was released without bond until a Nov. 26 trial. The Atlanta Falcons quarterback then apologized to his mother and asked that judgment be withheld.

Vick was jeered by a crowd as he went into court. He and three others entered their pleas in U.S. District Court to conspiracy charges involving competitive dogfighting, procuring and training pit bulls for fighting, and conducting the enterprise across state lines. Federal prosecutors say the operation ? known as Bad Newz Kennels ? was run on Vick's property in Surry County.
"I take these charges very seriously and look forward to clearing my good name," Vick said in a statement read outside court by Billy Martin, his lawyer.

"I respectfully ask all of you to hold your judgment until all of the facts are shown. Above all, I would like to say to my mom I'm sorry for what she has had to go through in this most trying of times. It has caused pain to my family and I apologize to my family."

Among the conditions set for all the defendants is that they surrender their passports, that they not travel outside their immediate area without court approval, and that they do not sell or possess any dog. In addition, Vick was ordered to surrender any animal breeder or kennel license.

The co-defendants made their pleas before U.S. District Judge Henry E. Hudson.

"He asserted in a loud and clear voice that he is not guilty of these allegations," Martin said.

"This is going to be a hard-fought trial."

Vick arrived at the courthouse at 3 p.m. in a black sport utility vehicle and was booed by a crowd of hundreds as he emerged. Wearing a dark suit and blue shirt, the quarterback looked straight ahead as he walked up the ramp to the courthouse. He did not respond to reporters.

The allegations detailed in a graphic, 18-page indictment sparked protests by animal rights groups at the headquarters of the NFL and the Falcons. NFL commissioner Roger Goodell has barred Vick from training camp while the league investigates.

Falcons owner Arthur Blank said the team wanted to suspend Vick for four games, the maximum penalty a team can assess a player, but the NFL asked him to wait. Instead, Blank has told the player to concentrate on his legal problems, not football.

Thursday, the Falcons opened their first camp under coach Bobby Petrino.

The case began April 25 when investigators conducting a drug search at the home found 66 dogs, including 55 pit bulls, and equipment typically used in dogfighting. They included a "rape stand" that holds aggressive dogs in place for mating and a "breakstick" used to pry open a dog's mouth.

Rest of Story

 

[Croft84]

I think what ignited this investigation was the fact that the FEDS were originally after his drug dealing cousin and stumbled upon this dog fighting operation during the raid at Vick's home. To put it simple, the FEDS don't play. They make a career on prosecuting high profile cases like this.

I like Vick, I hope he pleads for a suspended sentence. It doesn't look too good right now though.

I didnt quite hear it like this. I hear from someone in the media in the ATL that they (FEDS) have know about this dog fighting operation for years now and this suppose to be their ace in the hole on Vick to get him to cooperate on the drug operations of not only his cousin but other individual that Vick knew. They wanted him to give them up and Vick said he wouldnt rat nobody out. So they decided to show him they were not playing. I dont know how true it is but the person that work for the media told me. If this is true I dont think that was very smart.

 

[SONNY]

Vick gave a statement saying he wants to clean up his good name.

Ni99a What Good Name?????
You been dusty since you came in the league.

 

[Bane]

I hope you right frat. But the FBI ain't the Mayberry and Green Acres police department. They ain't Barney Fife. This was a 4 year investigation. I read somewhere that percentage of FBI indictments that where the defendants were proven guilty is 95%. The FBI has brought down powerful mobs in New York, Las Vegas,L.A. This investigation is a walk in the park for them;ain't much of a challenge for the FBI to bring down some un-organized thugs who are breaking the law. These guys are very thorough. Man... Vick would have stood a better chance of a rape allegation from a White woman than his chances that are listed in the indictment.

Like I stated before when you all were comparing the Vick case to the Jamaal Lewis case, the reason why the FBI win a lot of cases is due to either audio, video, or under cover agents evidence. Look how long it took them to bring down the Mob. As a matter of fact, the Mob is still live and kicking. Hell they only got Al Capone on tax evasion. Don't let that 95% FBI conviction rate think that Vick has no chance. Look how long they been pursuing Barry.

In the Vick case the only thing they seem to have is a couple witnesses. There are so many "Unknown Witnesses" in the indictment it's funny.

 

[PsychoJag]

Vick gave a statement saying he wants to clean up his good name.

Ni99a What Good Name?????
You been dusty since you came in the league.

That's not true. He had a clean slate up until the Ron Mexico incident.

 

[PsiSnake]

Yeah I read the indictments.:smh:
LOL hey frat O.J. beat the LA police department. The Feds weren't involved in that. See the LAPD could not place O.J or prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that O.J was there between 10:15 and 11 somethingPM.

Now in Vick's case it's alleged that they have him at the site,on a picture phone. Hopefully it's something like the highly publicized "ski mask" that the media reported before the O.J. trial. When the trial started the prosecution said there was no ski mask. Anyway all the evidence will come out in the trial.

...I thought they had O.J. on capital murder charges which is fed stuff; I could be wrong though. Yea that picture phone must be that footage of the rumor thats out. Hope the feds dont get they hands on that LOL.

Sonny

You aint ignorant right?

Croft84

Vick's cousin that lives in the house is the idiot. The police are whatever was on his cousin trail for selling dope or whatever before this dog thang came to light. I understand that when they knocked on the door to serve a search warrant of the home for dope; the cousin answered the door and said that there was know drugs to be found, and that all they do there is fight dogs; now tell me how stupid Vick cousin is for sayin that shatt?

Styles

.....I fee'ya

I was trippin on all those unknown witnesses; there was a bunch.

"Snake"