Cole vs Bama St: Lee, Bell fess up about Reed


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Depositions reveal Reed's role

By Josh Moon
Montgomery Advertiser


Alabama State Board of Trustees member Joe Reed's name has surfaced in two depositions involving the case against fired head coach L.C. Cole, sparking renewed debate about Reed's possible involvement in the year-long saga.

According to depositions given by former assistant coach Dedrick Bell and ASU president Joe Lee, Reed has been involved from the beginning in the process that led to Cole's suspension and eventual termination.

In a transcript of Lee's deposition obtained by the Montgomery Advertiser, Lee stated that Reed contacted him numerous times during the course of the investigation and often voiced his displeasure with Cole's contract.

During Bell's deposition, Bell stated that Reed was the only person other than investigator Robert Clayton and former athletic director Richard Cosby to ask him about the letter he wrote which led to ASU's eight-month investigation into the football program. The Montgomery Advertiser was present at the deposition until being asked to leave by Bell's attorney, Cecil Gardner.

Bell said Reed called him at home last January, just days after Bell submitted his letter to Cosby. Messages left for Reed, Lee and Gardner at their offices on Tuesday went unreturned.

Cole said he wasn't surprised by the admissions of Bell and Lee.

"It really didn't surprise me that he (Reed) was pulling against me," Cole said. "He's been against me since I started. He voted against me being hired and voted against me getting a contract extension. It's no surprise to me."

Other Board members are also questioning Reed's involvement in the case.

"I know I haven't called Dedrick Bell," trustee Buford Crutcher said. "I sincerely hope that Dr. Reed didn't really do all of that. There is no reason for a board member to have that kind of involvement in a matter such as this. No reason."

Trustee Elton Dean agrees.

"We were all told by the university counsel to stay out of this," Dean said. "That's what I thought all of us had done. I know I've stayed out of it."

That process of terminating Cole has now reached its final steps. Cole's final appeal to the Board of Trustees will be heard at a meeting Friday morning.

However, if what Bell and Lee said during their depositions is accurate, Crutcher said he believes Reed shouldn't be a part of that meeting.

"I think Dr. Reed should recuse himself, not only from voting on coach Cole's appeal but from any discussion of the matter," Crutcher said. "It's what I would do and I think it's what any Board member would do. It's the right thing."

The depositions given by Bell and Lee were part of Cole's slander and libel lawsuit against Bell.

Bell submitted a letter to ASU officials in December 2002, in which he alleged several NCAA violations he witnessed during his time as a coach under Cole. The letter led an already-formed investigation committee to begin looking into the ASU football program under Cole.

The probe was turned over to an outside investigator, Clayton. Clayton submitted his report to university officials, who then forwarded it to the NCAA. The report allegedly contained numerous NCAA violations committed by Cole and his staff over the past three seasons.

Cole has denied any wrongdoing and filed suit against Bell in June and against the university in August.

Shortly after the suit was filed against Bell, he hired Gardner, a prominent Mobile attorney. Cole and his attorneys have alleged that Reed played a role in Gardner representing Bell, who currently works as a waiter at Wings Sports Grille.

Reed is an executive secretary with the Alabama Education Association and is over AEA's legal department. Gardner has handled numerous AEA-related cases over the past several years.

Gardner denied that Reed played any role in his hiring by Bell.

"I often take referrals but Joe Reed played no part in this," Gardner said during an interview in June. "Mr. Bell is an old friend of mine "

Ironically, Bell stated that in his deposition that he never met or spoke with Gardner before hiring him. All other questions pertaining to how Bell came to hire Gardner were met with objections from Gardner and an eventual threat to walk out on the deposition if the questions continued.
 

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Originally posted by bornthrilla
Cole and his attorneys have alleged that Reed played a role in Gardner representing Bell, who currently works as a waiter at Wings Sports Grille.

Yeah I think I saw that clown when I grabbed some Jamaican Jerk wings on New Years Eve from up there...

He lucky them wings had me wrapped up in the aroma --- all I could think was, "Let me hurry up and run by Blockbusters before dem wangs get cold!"
 
Can this get any crazier? I bet that Reed will not recuse himself and that will start another controversy. Watch.
 
Are all these lies and deceptions worth it? How much time and money has been wasted on this?...Coonism at its best right here.
 
The Truth...............

This is horrible! I don't understand how some can be so full of hate. If this is in fact the case, I would like to see those who orchestrated this conspiracy penalized and terminated. Looks like KARMA has alread hit the "wing man."
 
Looks like a witch hunt to me

It's hard to comment when you don't know the facts. what was the role of the compliance officer who was in charge of eligibility and is he still in that position?

If a board member is proven to be involved in this matter State is going to have to settle.

When you are talking about violating a man's rights, and it involves his employee (which is a property right) you had better have all your ducks in a row.

Bottom line this could end coles coaching career. and to hold one man accountable for failures in a department won't cut it.

As the sands passes through the hour glass, these are the days of our lives.
 
Riley to look at ASU audit, coach's firing

January 9, 2004 Montgomery, Alabama


Riley to look at ASU audit, coach's firing

By Josh Moon
Montgomery Advertiser



A spokesman for Gov. Bob Riley said Thursday that the governor's office was looking into several matters at Alabama State University, including the process that led to former head football coach L.C. Cole's removal.

"We're currently in the fact-finding stages right now," said John Matson, Riley's assistant press secretary. "The governor's office is looking into the situation at Alabama State and its current audit. The governor wants to make sure that he has all the facts in this matter."

The Alabama State Board of Trustees is scheduled to meet this morning and Cole's appeal of his firing is on the agenda. The governor is not expected to attend the meeting, which starts at 9 a.m. at the Joe L. Reed Acadome and is open to the public.

Matson said the decision was made after the governor's office received phone calls from concerned ASU supporters and alumni.

COMING UP
What: Meeting of the Alabama State University board of trustees

When: 9 a.m. today

Where: The board room in the Joe L. Reed Acadome


ASU alumnus Charlie Hudson placed one of those calls.

"We're all just sick and tired of what's happening at our school," Hudson said. "There's one person over there running that university, and it's Joe Reed. I think (ASU president Joe) Lee's statements in his deposition indicate that. A board of trustees member shouldn't have that much authority."

Hudson was referring to a deposition Lee gave as a part of Cole's libel and slander lawsuit against former assistant coach Dedrick Bell.

In that deposition, Lee said Reed contacted him many times during ASU's eight-month investigation into its football program and often expressed his displeasure with Cole's contract.

"Reed has been micromanaging this university for years," Hudson said. "It's really not news to us. But for the president to say it out loud, that's something."

The comments from Riley's office and questions about Lee's statements in his deposition were met with silence from ASU officials.

Numerous messages left over three days for Lee at his office weren't returned. Questions asked of Lee over the past two days through the ASU public relations department also were not answered. Messages left for ASU attorney Fred Gray at his home and office also weren't returned.

ASU's investigation into Cole and the football program began last January after Bell gave university officials a letter which alleged numerous NCAA rules violations he said he witnessed during his tenure on Cole's staff.

Cole denied Bell's claims and filed suit against him a few months later.

While ASU officials are staying quiet, some ASU fans, alumni and supporters have plenty to say. "It's just been a disaster over there for quite some time," said Edward Davis, a 1954 graduate of ASU. "It's been getting worse and worse for some time. This is the climax."

Davis played basketball, ran track and was an All-American football player while at the school. For the past 50 years, Davis has supported the ASU basketball and football teams and is currently a member of ISTAP, a booster club for the athletic department at ASU.

"I've been all over the world with the teams at ASU," Davis said. "We all love and support the university. If we didn't, all of this that's going on now wouldn't matter to us. But it does. It matters greatly. And it can be stopped. I truly believe that the governor has the power and ability to set things straight over there. He just has to do it."

Several ASU alumni said that while they knew there were serious problems at the school, the situation with Cole over the past few months has prompted them to come forward and speak out.

"They have drug that man through the mud and tried to ruin him," said Bea Forniss, who is the former president of an ASU alumni chapter. "They haven't found one shred of evidence to support his firing. Not one.

"I'm sure they're going to fire him (today), but we're not letting him go without a fight. He didn't deserve this."

Davis agreed.

"The problems in the football program have been really troubling to me," Davis said. "For so long, we struggled to find a coach the caliber of Coach Cole and now look what's happening. This could set us back for a while if something isn't done to fix these problems at ASU. What needs to happen is for the board to vote to keep Coach Cole and let that man go back and finish the job he started."

Cole said the support he's received from the ASU fans throughout the yearlong process that led to his termination has been unbelievable.

"It has really been amazing at how long and how hard these people have been out there in support of me. It's helped me personally and I think it's gone a long way in letting people outside of Montgomery know that everything isn't what the (ASU) administration is making it out to be."



Getting the other folks involved now. :smh: They already believe that we cant do anything right without their help anyway. Question for ASU faithfuls. What happens if Cole is cleared, but do not want to return to coach at ASU? How would that make you all feel after giving him all that support?
 
Two things MH.

1. MH, I understand what you are saying. I'm sure that you all are happy, because maybe this will bring this mess to a close and alot of people that have been exposed may get ousted. But, could you all have done this without dragging the governor into this?

2. You still havent answered my question about Coles.
 
ummmm,
For me, this has little to nothing to do with who may or may not be a football coach. (As MD says "thinking leads to thinking")

I'm not about to go around and around with some of you folks on this topic. We did that last year.

carry on....
 
mh


Are you not answering a legit question?

hhhmmmm?

These people have no business trying to do busines. Now whitey got to get involved and tell them what to do. This is sad.
 
KUDOS...........

To Bama State Fans & Alums!!! It appears that the crux of the problem will be exposed. As Dr. King stated, "Injustice to one is Injustice to all" and "Everything in the dark must come to light." I woulld just like the truth to prevail and all relevant parties get "justice." BB, I don't think you are genuine in your inquiries....Peace
 
Originally posted by mighty hornet
ummmm,
For me, this has little to nothing to do with who may or may not be a football coach. (As MD says "thinking leads to thinking")

I'm not about to go around and around with some of you folks on this topic. We did that last year.

carry on....

Is this your answer? MH, this is not a loaded question. I'm just asking, cause I think that this will be crazy for all this support if this guy do not want to return to coach at the school. I just wanted to know how you all would feel if he did not want to return.

PS. JRock, I could care less what you thought.
 

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JROCK,
Thanks and you're right.

beans,
Maybe my answer went over your head. Go back and read it.


again, I'm not inclined to go through the same dance on this same topic with the same folks who always got the same things to say.
One would think after the events that have played out that they would have learned a lesson. But apparently, that's not the case.

oh well.
 
Of course it would go over my head when you dance around the questions. It is just simple questions. Could you all have done this (ousting the guilty parties behind this witch-hunt) without the governor being involved and how would you feel if Cole was cleared and stated that he was not returning to coach at ASU?

Easy as Sunday morning.
 
MH, believe me. Not everybody's hate is like yours for JSU. I'm actually happy, really I am, that you all are moving forward in the right way with this, I just wanted to know why involve the State's Govenor into all this. Arent the NCAA still conducting their research too? I mean, you all are putting too many cooks in your kitchen and you know the old saying. But, I understand that getting a legit and honest answer from you is too far fetch. So, I'll digress with this............Good luck to you all anyhow.
 
ASU Board upholds Cole?s firing

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/NEWS/StoryLocalcole09.htm

The Alabama State Board of Trustees voted 6-2 on Friday morning to uphold ASU President Joe Lee?s decision to terminate football coach L.C. Cole.

Cole was suspended in August after an eight-month internal investigation revealed allegations that he and several assistant coaches committed NCAA recruiting violations. On the advice of acting athletic director Sonia Price, Lee decided to fire Cole last month.

Cole, who continues to deny all allegations, appealed to the Board, which met in executive session for a little more than an hour before announcing its decision.

Trustees Buford Crutcher and Elton Dean voted against Cole?s termination. Joe Reed, Bob Jones, Torethea Johnson, Catherine Wright, James Cox and Thomas Figures voted in favor of the firing. Oscar Crawley, appointed to the Board by Gov. Bob Riley, again was not recognized as a member and was escorted out of the executive session by security.

Lee Mack, Bobby Junkins and Patsy Parker missed the meeting. Lister Hill Proctor abstained from the vote.

Cole coached ASU for three seasons and led them to the Southwestern Athletic Conference Eastern Division title in 2001.
 
Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker)
. Bob Riley, again was not recognized as a member and was escorted out of the executive session by security.

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These people are just sad and embarrassing.
 
Beans; Theere are times when you want the shark (Gov Riley) to eat (joe reed). Apparently you are not very familiar with joe reed. he is probally the most powerful Black man in the state. This is a man, or moron, which ever you prefer who is loved and hated in the Black community. The idiots who care for this moron are mostly teachers and senior citizens. reed has stopped the progress of the University for more than 20 years and he still has a few years left before he has to step down from the board. LC's firing and other ethical issues should have reed and others in jail, but that is just wishful thinking. Please don't ask what the other ethical issues are. If the truth gets out reed can be put away. The Governor is a Republican and reed is a die-hard Democrat who openly opposed him in the last election. In this case using Riley to fight joe is the best weapon at our disposal. If I lived in Alabama I might consider voting with the Republicans if they could get joe off the board. I hope Suge doesen't read this.
 
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