Church and State


God's angels watching over our troops in Iraq

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU0AileEmQ0


It's sad our troops don't know about God's horses and chariots of fire and how it relates to our Christian military. If they knew this then they would know God is watching over them with His horses and chariots of fire. I don't think the troops know about the promises God made to our military either, but be it as it may. The important thing is our Christian military is protected by God.
 



ROYAL BLUE said:
Do not we launch the world's greatest air strike from the sea? What other nation you know have more planes ready to be launched in the Pacific or Atlantic at the same time? The US is the only nation that can instantly attack and have the muscle to back it up. You should learn the motto of the Marines, "GOD FAMILY and COUNTRY." Did you notice who they put first in what they do? We serve the "Almighty" and we would crush any heathen nation that dare go against the best in the world. God is on our side because we believe in Jesus Christ and accept Him as Lord and savior of our life. The heathen doesn't and for that cause God makes sure we defeat the enemy. God is on the throne and He loves those that love Him. He protects those that serve Him. He gives us victory before one sword is drawn. Who is the heathen that he should dare think to battle a Christian? Who is he? Let him make war with the Christian and watch him and their leader fall. I pray God continue to bless our Christian military. The heathen can't say the things I state because he doesn't believe in God. The nation that has God gets the victory.

The heathen's day is soon coming and we will witness God destroying millions of heathens with 180lb hailstones destroying every soul that unites with them to invade the Christian nations. God says that it will be He that will gather the heathen and all its armies together to rise up against the Christian nations. God says that He will gather them together in the end times and will bring them through the Alaskan mountains to only destroy them with nature so that they will know He is God. What's my message to the heathen? Death to all who deny God!
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Please change your message to the heathen to; Repent from your sins and seek the Lord as your God. (Thats what the message was to me when I got saved)
 
Apaquelypse said:
Please change your message to the heathen to; Repent from your sins and seek the Lord as your God. (Thats what the message was to me when I got saved)
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We're doing that, however I'm talking about the heathen that deny and refuse God. This is the heathen I speak of and not a heathen that's unlearned. I'm talking about the heathen that could care less about God and will destroy whoever gets in his way. God told us to protect ourselves and if that brings about death then so be it. It's called tough love and we practice tough love when disciplining rebellious children. We have to use the belt at times but it gets the job done......tough love. In a perfect world all would worship, love, and serve God however we live in a wicked world. We have to always be on guard and protect our freedom against the wickedness in this world. What's my point? You don't bring a knife to a gun fight. You bring a weapon that is equal or superior because you want to live and go home at the end of the day. The weapon I speak of is the "Almighty" and He is well known for bringing death to those who deny Him. In fact, He has a special place reserved for those who deny Him and they will soon get their reward.

In no way am I saying if you're a heathen then you should be dead. What I'm saying is that if you "refuse" God and attempt to attack Christians, then I pray you "righteously" meet your maker. If I'm defending my country, family, or property, and I put a bullet in the heathen then this was a righteous act. The heathen deserved death and as a Christian we are instructed to protect ourselves.

Chinese Christian Lawyer Beaten and Arrested by Chinese Government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO_a9btQC8
 
ROYAL BLUE said:
We're doing that, however I'm talking about the heathen that deny and refuse God. This is the heathen I speak of and not a heathen that's unlearned. I'm talking about the heathen that could care less about God and will destroy whoever gets in his way. God told us to protect ourselves and if that brings about death then so be it. It's called tough love and we practice tough love when disciplining rebellious children. We have to use the belt at times but it gets the job done......tough love. In a perfect world all would worship, love, and serve God however we live in a wicked world. We have to always be on guard and protect our freedom against the wickedness in this world. What's my point? You don't bring a knife to a gun fight. You bring a weapon that is equal or superior because you want to live and go home at the end of the day. The weapon I speak of is the "Almighty" and He is well known for bringing death to those who deny Him. In fact, He has a special place reserved for those who deny Him and they will soon get their reward.

In no way am I saying if you're a heathen then you should be dead. What I'm saying is that if you "refuse" God and attempt to attack Christians, then I pray you "righteously" meet your maker. If I'm defending my country, family, or property, and I put a bullet in the heathen then this was a righteous act. The heathen deserved death and as a Christian we are instructed to protect ourselves.

Chinese Christian Lawyer Beaten and Arrested by Chinese Government

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCO_a9btQC8
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BLUE, Saul was infamous for fighting and killing christians. But for the mercy of God, he would have been dead, as you wish. Lets not lose focus of why we are here, as christians. We are here to convert even the most wicked of the wicked.
Even those that refuse God are no different than you and I before we believed.....
 
Apaquelypse said:
BLUE, Saul was infamous for fighting and killing christians. But for the mercy of God, he would have been dead, as you wish. Lets not lose focus of why we are here, as christians. We are here to convert even the most wicked of the wicked.
Even those that refuse God are no different than you and I before we believed.....
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You must understand how God feels about those who deny and refuse Him. This upsetsGod and He makes it well known throughout the bible. Paul didn't refuse God and neither did king Nebbuchanezar, however king Nebbuchadnezar's grandson denied and refused God. His grandson was brought up in the word and understood the word but denied and refused God. What did God do to him. God exposed only His hand and wrote on the wall beside the grandson that caused the grandson to wet his pants. He didn't understand the writing so he asked Daniel to interpret the writing on the wall. What did it say? Your kingdom is numbered and God instantly killed that night. These are the heathen I'm talking about and not the "UNLEARNED" or those who are kept from the teachings of Christ. Please read how God deals with those who deny and refuse Him and you'll understand where I'm coming from.
 
Churches have stopped preaching the uncomprimised word of GOD because of money. They have stopped preaching and teaching on the fundamentals of Godly living because it forces them to speak out on things that are not politically correct. And the law and its favors have kept The Church in check. So The Church goes, So goes the nation.
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That?s a stupid and ignorant generalized statement. Have you ever attended the following churches?

Cornerstone Church, San Antonio TX
St. Marks Baptist Church, Munford TN
Madison Church of Christ, Nashville TN
Greater Grace, Detroit / Insketr MI

And I can name hundreds if not thousands more, if not to state:

Churches have stopped preaching the uncomprimised word of GOD because of money. They have stopped preaching and teaching on the fundamentals of Godly living because it forces them to speak out on things that are not politically correct.
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Is ignorant, because you have not attended all churches in the city you live. That's like saying dogs are black, but we all know that not true, becase there are brown, white, tan and various combinations of colors.

If what you are saying is true, then RB idol Arnold Murray is not preaching God's word.

Have you taken a survey and listen to all the sermons preached?

Yes or No

Just Dumb
 
Dr H.. said:
That?s a stupid and ignorant generalized statement. Have you ever attended the following churches?

Cornerstone Church, San Antonio TX
St. Marks Baptist Church, Munford TN
Madison Church of Christ, Nashville TN
Greater Grace, Detroit / Insketr MI

And I can name hundreds if not thousands more, if not to state:



Is ignorant, because you have not attended all churches in the city you live. That's like saying dogs are black, but we all know that not true, becase there are brown, white, tan and various combinations of colors.

If what you are saying is true, then RB idol Arnold Murray is not preaching God's word.

Have you taken a survey and listen to all the sermons preached?

Yes or No

Just Dumb
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Well, no. I have not been to every church, listened to every preacher, nor issued any formal surveys to anybody. And based off that critera alone, as you say, I probably my be just dumb.........however, if the church was/is effective and full of flavor, is the U.S. as we know today the result of this effective minisitry or an ineffective one?
Those churches you have named and have accounted for are probably great places to go to hear about Christ but the bible says to be doers and not hearers only. If those churches were producing doers, we wouldnt even be having this conversation. Of those hundrends and possibly thousands of churches you've mentioned, how many of their members are doers?
The last time I checked, when groups of people continually obeyed God, God-Like changes came about. When groups of people continually obeyed God, walls fell down. When groups of people continually obeyed God, peolple were healed of sickness, nations turned from serving false idols and/or fake Gods, lives were changed, folk were convicted of thier evil and unfair doing and they stopped doing them, and folks are drawn to Christ.
Again, I havent been everywhere, nor heard everything and to be honest with you, in a carnal sense, everything I say probably is dumb. But when The Church, as designed by God, has its flavor, a whole lot of dumb stuff tends to happen.
 
Apaquelypse said:
Well, no. I have not been to every church, listened to every preacher, nor issued any formal surveys to anybody. And based off that critera alone, as you say, I probably my be just dumb.........however, if the church was/is effective and full of flavor, is the U.S. as we know today the result of this effective minisitry or an ineffective one?
Those churches you have named and have accounted for are probably great places to go to hear about Christ but the bible says to be doers and not hearers only. If those churches were producing doers, we wouldnt even be having this conversation. Of those hundrends and possibly thousands of churches you've mentioned, how many of their members are doers?
The last time I checked, when groups of people continually obeyed God, God-Like changes came about. When groups of people continually obeyed God, walls fell down. When groups of people continually obeyed God, peolple were healed of sickness, nations turned from serving false idols and/or fake Gods, lives were changed, folk were convicted of thier evil and unfair doing and they stopped doing them, and folks are drawn to Christ.
Again, I havent been everywhere, nor heard everything and to be honest with you, in a carnal sense, everything I say probably is dumb. But when The Church, as designed by God, has its flavor, a whole lot of dumb stuff tends to happen.
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Be careful Apaquelypse! You might hurt their feelings or upset the community by chastising the "Non-doers". They don't take too well to correction.
 
You answered my question, therefore you opinion is just an opinion without foundation.

If every church preached (based on your comment) does not mean this or any other country, would be better off. Because, God know the purpose and direction each country is headed.

Some people spend too much time concentrating on others rather than making sure they are right with God.
 
Dr H.. said:
You answered my question, therefore you opinion is just an opinion without foundation.

If every church preached (based on your comment) does not mean this or any other country, would be better off. Because, God know the purpose and direction each country is headed.

Some people spend too much time concentrating on others rather than making sure they are right with God.
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If my people, who are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray.......

There is plenty foundation in what I speak. We jsut have to be willing to check unpopular (biblicial) resources.

Well, If you think that either one of us spend too much time concentrating on others, then you are sadly mistaken and have been misinformed on the calling of everyone who is saved. It is our obligation as Christians, to seek the lost (worry about others) convert non beleivers to The Christ (worry about others) and uplift the kingdom of God in all that we say and do. God didnt save us so that you and I and a few others could be saved. He didnt so that when we were persecuted by others for doing his will, we would not suffer the same fate of those who did not beleive. How can we spend too much time concentrating on others when God has commanded that we do this? How can we spend all our time on making sure we are right with God, when God has clearly laid out the map for us to make it heaven and given us permission to boldly walk back into the fold when we mess up. The plan of salvation was not intended to be a repetitive ritual. That was a one time thing so that we (the saved folk) can get on with doing what God has commanded us to do.

But, I guess, I just must be dumb cause I dont beleive my purpose in life is to make sure i'm right with God....yeah right:smh:
 
Apaquelypse said:
If my people, who are called by my name, would humble themselves and pray.......

There is plenty foundation in what I speak. We jsut have to be willing to check unpopular (biblicial) resources.

Well, If you think that either one of us spend too much time concentrating on others, then you are sadly mistaken and have been misinformed on the calling of everyone who is saved. It is our obligation as Christians, to seek the lost (worry about others) convert non beleivers to The Christ (worry about others) and uplift the kingdom of God in all that we say and do. God didnt save us so that you and I and a few others could be saved. He didnt so that when we were persecuted by others for doing his will, we would not suffer the same fate of those who did not beleive. How can we spend too much time concentrating on others when God has commanded that we do this? How can we spend all our time on making sure we are right with God, when God has clearly laid out the map for us to make it heaven and given us permission to boldly walk back into the fold when we mess up. The plan of salvation was not intended to be a repetitive ritual. That was a one time thing so that we (the saved folk) can get on with doing what God has commanded us to do.

But, I guess, I just must be dumb cause I dont beleive my purpose in life is to make sure i'm right with God....yeah right:smh:
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My brother in Christ! I will see you on the battlefield Christian soldier.
 
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