Bill Cosby


Rated R Superstar said:
Since most victims of sexual assault or rape have some type of relationship with their perpetrator (friend, boyfriend, co-worker, relative, etc.) it wouldn't be unreasonable or unusual for those women to take pills or alcohol from Cosby, especially if they trust him.

And what you're describing with high school kids (or the times in the case of Cosby) is grooming. All of it is sick but is just a reflection of how males have been taught to pursue females in a predatory way.
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OK... But AGAIN... lets say you have a business and invite women to your house that you know. Are ALL those women gonna have a headache when they walk in your house. Do you have an invisible hammer in your driveway to hit them in the head? Make that part make sense. I think at the end of the day, that was code for the pills they wanted. He needed a whole stash of pills to give to women who came to his house with a headache.....LOL THAT part of the depositions was so dumb to me.
 
Rated R Superstar said:
And what you're describing with high school kids (or the times in the case of Cosby) is grooming. All of it is sick but is just a reflection of how males have been taught to pursue females in a predatory way.
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BUT in my first example, it was the older girls with the younger guys.

And again, im not even taking sides here but my common sense just wont let this rest right. Bill did some things and for the most part he admits to the sex. He just does not see it as rape. I wasnt there so I dont know but from the things I read, it makes no sense to me. TOO MANY things dont add up. TI and Tiny admit to using X pills. They also admit to inviting women in bed with them. Well, what if they offered those women pills? Does that equate to rape? Maybe. Maybe not.
 



Tigerpride said:
Im not going to say what Cosby did or didnt do. BUT unlike some of you, I read every deposition. EVERY! Some of them made no sense and the others were clearly coached because they all said the same thing. MOST of these things happened in the 60s and 70s when EVERYONE had this drug and used it recreationally. Many people use drugs now to have sex. I guess in 30 yrs, most our current celebs will be going to jail for offering women pills, etc.. for sex. That does not equate to rape. Oh and in almost EVERY deposition, EVERY woman arrived at Cosby's house or office or whatever and NEEDED a drink or were not feeling well so they asked if he had something to give them... he offered them pills. LOL They took them with alcohol. Go read that shat for yourselves. One woman says Cosby was doing a show and he walked back stage, put her on her knees and bust in her mouth. Ummm, every man on this board knows that aint happen. LOL Was he just holding it in during his performance? Those women were coached. Again, not saying he didnt do it but the fact that you have 70 to 100 women making this claim is the SOLE reason I dont believe it. Also, most of these were white women with white brothers and white fathers. They killed King in the late 60s. It took til 1994 to convict the murderer of Medgar Evers. You think white ppl gave a fugg about Bill Cosby? They would have hung his ass and would have been glad to do it. So again, im not saying what he did or didnt do but I cant buy into the story told as presented. Even Janet Hubert has 5 more mystery women. OK... well yeah... ok. Oh Also, most of these women were (according to their deposition) gone all night. U mean no one was looking for them? Not a room mate, cousin, mom, dad, best friend, NOBODY? Make it make sense. Maybe he did rape some women but the 70 women who are lying makes this hard to believe. And that "man" who took him court knows she was setting him up and wanted something. She kept going back. Oh and (i keep trying to stop...lol) ANYONE who thinks that Cosby admitted to drugging women to rape them in the statement he made is clearly dumb af. He never said that.
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When I was on the road playing music I considered buying some coke for the purpose of "partying" but I quickly dismissed the notion...plus, there was no need.

I will say that activity was reserved for a "special" type female.
 
Tigerpride said:
I agree with all of that BUT something is fishy if I invite 50 women to my house and 45 of them walk in and say, I have a headache. LOL I cant tell u how many times I read that. Then they just took the pills. C'mon man! ..and they ALL took the pills with alcohol. Really man?

Again, if offering pills is rape, in 30 years all our current rappers gone be in jail. Some things are just cultural, right or wrong. And when you are in a certain culture, you behave within it. I recall in HS how plenty of 12th grades girls were dating 9th grade guys. One year, it was a "thing"... Looking back, that was rape. BUT there were 12th grade guys and 9th grade girls hooking up and it was normal. YET RAPE. So when you are looking at the times these things happened, them coming to his house ASKING for pills, they clearly knew he was the plug. They just left that part out.

Again, Im not taking sides here but how many black women you know just take pills even from ppl they know? and he didnt even show them the bottle. Even if I give my wife some pills, she reads the bottle to see how many, etc..... Some stuff boils down to common sense and some of the things I read made no sense. Maybe it made sense in the 70s. Who knows!
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Nope...it made no sense even in the '70's
 
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LAW DAWG said:
In the case of the woman he was convicted over she continued to see Bill after multiple advances during separate encounters. On one occasion he sat next to her and put his hand on her thigh, on another he attempted to unzip her pants and during another he gave her pills while telling her they are her "friends" before groping and assaulting her. Even after all those encounters, on yet another separate evening, she met up with him again alone in a hotel room.

Much of the details are in the very first ten pages of the appellate court opinion. Just after reading that small amount you get the feeling that what really happened is she just became a scorned woman after she could not break into the sports broadcast business after making Bill aware of that desire. She was willing to do whatever to achieve that, but when Bill didn't deliver on making her dreams come true as she hoped the prior advances suddenly, a full year after the alleged incident happened, became a pressing problem. Also, as 662 said, the Me Too Movement revived the entire scenario of events which took place circa 2003-2005.
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That's what messes me up. The details are out there in plain sight for everyone to read

He's not 100% innocent IMO but he was no doubt railroaded by a bunch of women who saw their gravy train stop. He definitely didn't rape them as they try to paint him
 



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