Biggest upset ever in LA High School football


thegooddoctor

thegooddoctor

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On this past Friday Carver High of New Orleans defeated the #1 ranked 5A football team in La West Monroe.

This has to go down as the biggest upset in the history of LA High School football. 4A Carver the alma mater of Marshall Faulk traveled to West Monroe with only two days practice due to the tropical storm and defeated W. Monroe.

The Coach of Carver is Jack Philips, a graduate of Grambling.

Congratulations to the RAMS.
 
well New Orleans has alot of good sports programs, so i wouldnt be surprised.. but whut was the score
 



Originally posted by thegooddoctor
On this past Friday Carver High of New Orleans defeated the #1 ranked 5A football team in La West Monroe.

This has to go down as the biggest upset in the history of LA High School football. 4A Carver the alma mater of Marshall Faulk traveled to West Monroe with only two days practice due to the tropical storm and defeated W. Monroe.

The Coach of Carver is Jack Philips, a graduate of Grambling.

Congratulations to the RAMS.
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....Man, Jack Phillips' nickname at Grambling was "GHOST"...he was on a track scholarship and they put him on the football team..he was a good receiver and if he ever got behind a db he was gone.....loooong gone....."Ghost" Phillips done made history...that's really good to hear...best wishes to Jack and the Team from the "9th Ward" in New Orleans!!!!!
 
Originally posted by KuntriBoy
well New Orleans has alot of good sports programs, so i wouldnt be surprised.. but whut was the score
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...Home of Bruce Eugene & Donald Carrie....

...The Final Score was 20-7!!!
 
Byron Addison (starting Db from the G-MEN 2000 championship team) is the defensive coordinator for Carver also. These boys near Florida Ave. have been representing the last few years. If I am not mistaken, they beat John Curtis a few years ago too.
 
Originally posted by thegooddoctor
This has to go down as the biggest upset in the history of LA High School football.
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Hate to disagree with you on this one but there is no way that this is the biggest upset in the history of LA High School football. West Monroe is down this year. While they were undefeated before the Carver game, they were not impressive at all in a 25-12 win over Sulphur, a 23-0 win over a very poor 3A Westlake (1-3) team (btw, Westlake defeated Sulphur 17-0 in jamboree play), and a win over a 1-3 Ruston team, 27-7.

West Monroe won't make it that far this year. Next up for them is Evangel University out of Shreveport.
 
Gram Fan, I don't care if W. Monroe is down this year, that's still a big upset for Carver.

I don't know if you're from New Orleans, but if you are, then you know how the deck is stacked against black public schools in the city, when it comes to football. It's a miracle anytime a NOPS can go outside of the city, and get a fairly officiated game, especially during the state playoffs.

The talent level, and facilities W. Monroe has over Carver's is not close by no means. You're talking about a school that's been consistantly ranked on a national scale over the past 8 years, or so. Outside of Marshall Faulk, Carver was primarily a basketball school.

I know they've put some decent teams on the field AM (After Marshall), but there isn't a soul in the state of LA, outside of Higgins Blvd, and Florida Ave that honestly believed Carver would come within 20 points of W. Monroe.

NICE
 
Originally posted by G-QUE



...Home of Bruce Eugene & Donald Carrie....

...The Final Score was 20-7!!!
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Sounds like a convincing victory.
 
Now I don't know about this being biggest upset ever (simply because this is a reg. season game), but it is a big upset.

It is rare that you soft lil S. La teams can come up here and leave with a win. Congrats to Carver.....down year or not. West Monroe has developed into a powerhouse in La football.
 
Ahh, D Nice -- it seems UPT needs to leave football to the boys South of Canal. Upt has good individual talent (i.e. Bruce Eugene), but no concept of team -- clearly notes out of the Robert Hughes book of coaching.

When has an UPT school done anything in high school football? The Westbank represents, even Jefferson Parish and the River Parish schools, but what about the Scarlet letter of N.O. football --UPT?
 
GSUpe first off, there's only a handful of teams that are uptown, but the last state champ to come from New Orleans was from Uptown. Isadore Newman, lead by Peyton Manning.

In the 70's, & 80's Booker T. Washington was a powerhouse in football, but never got a break because they were a BPS, then the school is in the Calliope.

Walter L. Cohen (Bruce Eugene's alma matter) was never a football power, and will never be, but damn they can play some basketball, look at the state titles.

Alcee Fortier aka cornerback high, a band school, but every now, and then they put a good team on the field. Those Kirk Davenport lead teams, got robbed out of many a playoff game in the late 80's.

De la Sale sp, well, they're not Jesuit, and never had a chance in football.

McMain, just started playing football about 10 years ago, so they don't count.

That's 6 high schools uptown, and there are how many high schools in New Orleans?

As far as the westbank, their schools should do good because the talent isn't spread out like it is on the eastbank.

You need to ask yourself, what 9th ward school has ever done anything meaningful in football, and you can add Holy Cross into that as well.

Remember Carver, & Nicholls aka Frederick Douglas, used to play in District 9, before the realignment. How many times did those 2 combined stop Walker from winning the District Title?

Then ask yourself, how many District Titles did Lawless win (District 10), and how many times did they beat a uptown school?

Stay in the River Parish son, and leave New Orleans football to me.

NICE
 
Yeah, West Monroe has always had a good football program. We (El Dorado High) used to play them when I was in high school. They were not that good then, but they developed into a powerhouse.
 
West Monroe started to come around in the early 90's. From 90-92 they gave us(Ouachita) arun for our money. But we always managed to beat them clowns. Then in 93 it was on, they won a state title, and have't looked back since. theyhave one of the best weigt programs of any high school.....In this country!

My old O-line coach is the OC there now.I'm not a fan of the rebels, but I will give them credit, they have turned it around over there.

And yall can talk all that NOLA and river parish football you want. Whenever we played one of you weak teams down south we used to crush you. From the toe to the heal of the boot, we would punish yall. Jesuit, Carencro, Lagrange, detrahan, Hammond, Curtis, Amite, St. Aug...all yall. We whips are in football...

Now basketbal, well , umm ......we won in footbal!
 
Originally posted by Suge

And yall can talk all that NOLA and river parish football you want. Whenever we played one of you weak teams down south we used to crush you. From the toe to the heal of the boot, we would punish yall. Jesuit, Carencro, Lagrange, detrahan, Hammond, Curtis, Amite, St. Aug...all yall. We whips are in football...
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We Thibodaux beat Ouachita's azz when we won state in '91/92 school year. The first ever 5A state champs.
 



In response to Newman High,


If Newman High won a state title with P. Manning, it wasn't his senior year, because they lost to Northeast High (Zachary, La) in the playoffs. That Northeast team was coached by Doug Williams.
 
They won in his Junior year. Peyton lead them to the state in football, and Randy Livingston lead Newman's basketball team the state title the same year.

Suge, you north LA boys should win the state title each year, you have less distractions up there, and nothing else to do. In hindsight, John Curtis has been running rough shot for so long, I'm surprised Wossman didn't drop their football program, as much as Curtis dug in that arse.

NICE
 
Originally posted by D-NICE
Gram Fan, I don't care if W. Monroe is down this year, that's still a big upset for Carver.
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I agree. A big upset for Carver. But surely not the biggest upset in LA high school football history.
 
Originally posted by Da_Sperm
Yeah, West Monroe has always had a good football program. We (El Dorado High) used to play them when I was in high school. They were not that good then, but they developed into a powerhouse.
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They developed into a powerhouse by taking talent from other high schools (i.e. Bradie James from Wossman.) and the LHSAA was too chicken-isht to do anything about it. While all of this was going on, West Monroe was doing the same thing that private schools such as Evangel and Parkview Baptist are able to do now, and that is, basically get talent from all over the place.

I still think the LHSAA should seperate public from private. The LHSAA can't possibly "police" what is and has been going on.
 
Carver is no joke.

I saw carver in a jamboree and those boys looked good. I mean the uniforms were tight for the football team as well as the band. With the football team, I was most impressed with the amount of motion that they used on offense. They looked like the rams with all that motion.
 
Originally posted by D-NICE


That's 6 high schools uptown, and there are how many high schools in New Orleans?

As far as the westbank, their schools should do good because the talent isn't spread out like it is on the eastbank.

Stay in the River Parish son, and leave New Orleans football to me.

NICE
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I figured you would come with that spread out crap. Just face it -futility=UPT. Private schools do not count (De La Salle, Newman, and Shaw on the WB -- they recruit)). Going back to the Westbank (Jefferson Parish only), L.W. Higgins is on Lapalco, and a few miles north on Lapalco off Barataria Blvd. you would find John Ehret. Travel up Barataria to the Expressway you will find West Jeff. All the schools are in close proximity and field competitive teams. Jumping to Orleans Parish (still on the Westbank) the only school that is not competitive is L.B. Landry.

How do you explain the success of the River Parishes -- small communities? Hahnville (5A), West St. John (2A), St. James (3A), Belle Chaase (3A), Port Sulphur (1A) are playoff teams each year.

UPT needs to focus on Mardi Gras routes, leave football to the big boys. LOL.
 
Originally posted by GramFan


They developed into a powerhouse by taking talent from other high schools (i.e. Bradie James from Wossman.) and the LHSAA was too chicken-isht to do anything about it. While all of this was going on, West Monroe was doing the same thing that private schools such as Evangel and Parkview Baptist are able to do now, and that is, basically get talent from all over the place.

I still think the LHSAA should seperate public from private. The LHSAA can't possibly "police" what is and has been going on.
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They don't only take talent from the bigger schools like Wossman but they also get the better talent from the smaller schools in North LA. They got a couple of kids from my high school when I was there. If we weren't 1A maybe someone would have noticed. They have taken kids from Ruston, Grambling, and all over with the promises of scholarships in D1 ball. They even fail some kids in eight grade in order to get them for the four years they need them in high school. They did that to a kid this year. I think I was told he is like 6'4 300 lbs. They do anything they can to keep West Monroe on top.

The reason no one says anything is because it's always good for Louisiana's reputation if we have a top five team in the country. They have a whole system of West Monroe supporters working for them in middle schools every where. Everyone around here calls them the University of Louisiana at West Monroe.

Now, Louisiana has two with Evangel who use to be 1A when the Booty bothers were there while I was in high school. They became so competitive with all the recruiting they do that they had to move them up to 5A. They went from 1A to 3A to 5A. They were just running through teams. They have kids on their team from Texas to Arkansas to Louisiana. But it's all legit...

The LHSAA will never say anything or do anything. It just like LSU. The state will do whatever to hide the crimes of the favored son. Let any other school do the same and see how fast they fall.
 
Originally posted by GRAM4LIFE
The reason no one says anything is because it's always good for Louisiana's reputation if we have a top five team in the country. . . . . The LHSAA will never say anything or do anything.
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Not trying to argue with you, as we probably share the same feeling in relation to West Monroe, but I do think the LHSAA has done something by really monitoring the "goings on" with these transfers going from school to school. A few years back, UL-WM had a few kids that transferred there but were denied the privilege to participate. I was surprised, better yet shocked, that the LHSAA had done something about it. Also, down here in Lake Charles, it happened where a couple of kids tried to leave one school to play with its arch rival but the attempt was squashed as well. What I should have said in my previous post was that the LHSAA didnt act quick enough when this foolishness started. It was like they didnt know how to handle it. I think they have the transfer thing in hand and I think West Monroe is already suffering because of it. Don't be suprised if they lose another 2 or 3 games, starting with the Evangel game this Friday.

Now, as for Evangel, what they do will continue until the private and publics are separated. You can't stop private schools from bringing in any kid they can convince to go to their school.
 
I agree with you up to a point.

I think that the LHSAA was only doing that to seem as if they were doing some thing. So they can have something to point to if anyone accuses them of being bias.

The only reason why West Monroe is down this year is because lack of major talent in the area. If you look around at the schools, most of them don't have the superior talent they once had. I won't not be shocked if they lost more games. They probably will lose to Evangel. I think they will lose to Evangel the majorities of times they play. Evangel has an advantage that other teams don't have. An unfair advantage in my eyes... But not illegal. So all we can do is gripe about it.
 
They were ranked #1 in the state.

Say what you want to. West Monroe was ranked #1 in the state, They are 5A compared to Carver 4A. Carver was not ranked at all.

New Orleans Public Schools don't have a football stadiumfor any school.

This was David beating Goliath. Haves against the have nots.

West Monroe was ranked nationally by USA Today.

Projects against the suburbs. This was an upset of huge proportions. Sort of like Prairie View beating Texas.

It wasn't suppose to happen, it was unexpected, unanticipated.

And by the way. The New Orleans Press and news media has virtually ignored it.
 
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