roadblock-2-spr97
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Why did SU play Swoop?
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DonGiovonni
Helpin U Breathe Easier
I'ma go out on a limb here.......umm.....Because it's been in their book for a nice long time???
roadblock-2-spr97
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Not really impressed with halftime coverage from NBC. Sound was muffled and they cut into both shows.
s phi s
The One Man Band
LOL....Blade, I told you!!!!
I don't have allegiance to either school. But this brings up the age-old debate. JSU is known to play Swoop. SU now breaks it out. Since JSU is known to play it, is SU wrong to play it in the Classic???
My answer is no. I really didn't get to hear the arrangement (MBC, send help), but the idea itself will spark controversy. Unless JSU wrote the original song, or SU played the exact same arrangement (of which, I doubt neither happened), then I believe the song is fair game.
As for the NBC coverage, well, lets just say that I wasn't expecting much and was still disappointed.
*Did anyone hear the GSU trumpet player butcher the end of the fight song??*
I don't have allegiance to either school. But this brings up the age-old debate. JSU is known to play Swoop. SU now breaks it out. Since JSU is known to play it, is SU wrong to play it in the Classic???
My answer is no. I really didn't get to hear the arrangement (MBC, send help), but the idea itself will spark controversy. Unless JSU wrote the original song, or SU played the exact same arrangement (of which, I doubt neither happened), then I believe the song is fair game.
As for the NBC coverage, well, lets just say that I wasn't expecting much and was still disappointed.
*Did anyone hear the GSU trumpet player butcher the end of the fight song??*
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
Quote this and stick it in JSt. Lounge. Im sure Boom members can answer this one.
As long as it isn't the same version...it's fair game.
Sounds like sour grapes to me the way you hate GSU.
I think they both sounded ok for it to be in a domed stadium(I was in attendance so I heard them both live).
Few pics will be posted on the yahoo site when I get back in town, this 28.8 dial up is too slow to upload pics.
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
NBC isn't doing either band any justice....
They seemingly still haven't learned how to effectively broadcast a halftime show. They've got the 'shots' down alright, but they butchered the audio once again. They showed many up-close shots, and that's cool. But your audio has got to come from a mic in the stands, and not from a shoulder-mounted camera on the field.... Neither band sounded good, based on the recording....
They seemingly still haven't learned how to effectively broadcast a halftime show. They've got the 'shots' down alright, but they butchered the audio once again. They showed many up-close shots, and that's cool. But your audio has got to come from a mic in the stands, and not from a shoulder-mounted camera on the field.... Neither band sounded good, based on the recording....
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
Good point, S phi S.......
The only thing I'll say about it, is that this kills the SU argument that they NEVER steal (term used very LIGHTLY) anything from anybody else..... 'Cause it's clear (to me) that they must've just started playing it, 'cause had they had it all along, then they would've (or should've) played it when they played JSU.....
:smh:
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
But, "stealing" doesn't constitute just playing a song that another band plays. That's not stealing.
I've never heard anyone deny that a song idea might've come from another band, after the "S" has heard it (doesn't happen as much as people would like to think...but, it has happened). I could care less if people played SU's fight song....but, it sure as he!! better not be the same arrangement....that's stealing.
Like the NECK arguement. No one from SU cared that JSt. played it....by all means, play it till you lil hearts content. But, when a certain band has certain parts that were concieved by someone from SU (parts not even in the actual song)....that's where the problem comes in.
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
But if turnabout's 'fair play', then the SU cats shouldn't argue if any JSU peeps wanna make any issue (not that I'm making one) out of SU playing Swoop..... 'Cause when the Boom started playing 'Under Pressure', you would've thought we broke into Doc Gregg's house and stole it off the bedroom dresser, the SU cats made such a fuss about it (and still do sometimes now)......
Take it how ya wanna. :smh:
Take it how ya wanna. :smh:
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
That's exactly why I inserted the comment term used very LIGHTLY. I know they didn't steal it 'literally'...... But that's that term everybody seems to like to 'throw' around......
:dude:
O'Bladerunner
And Down!
That's because 1) the tune has few very familar licks that were "made up" by someone from the "U"....and 2) someone from N.O. wrote it out. And, knowing how N.O. cats are very familiar with what SU does......it's SUspect. That's all.
How could you fault anyone from SU for thinking it's suspect?
Truss...is not that big of a deal....but, it is _ _ _! Especially, when things like certain bands playing songs that sound just like what my CB (Jagtone97/And Down..."Still Smoking") concieved.
Taylor-Made'90
I'm 'Citrix SSO' batch!!!
I was simply 'generalizing' when I said the bit about Doc Greggs, but thanks for clairfying who wrote Under Pressure....
The point I was making was that it's widely accepted (on these band threads) that when a band plays a particular song all the time, that song becomes known as a 'signature tune' for that band. And from time to time, other bands will play that song. Either they'll arrange their own version, or they arrange a version BASED on the other bands version. And some people call that 'stealing'. Now, speaking of Under Pressure, several SU faithfuls have said that the Boom stole Under Pressure, because JSU's version had an interpretation of a part of SU's arrangement(some B-Tone line somewhere), that wasn't in the original Boyz to Men song. And if that's the case, then I don't argue it..... JSU obviously liked the tune, so they arranged a version of it. But the SU folks say they stole it....
And with this situation, the shoe may be on the 'other foot'. JSU's been playing Swoop for years. It's a 'signature tune'. But now Southern played it.... And I'm certain the arrangement is different. It almost has to be. The instrumentation is different. And that's fine with me. If Southern likes a tune, and JSU just happens to have played it for the last several years, and if Southern wants to play it, then go ahead and arrange a version of it and have at it. And that's what they did....
Just understand the 'logic' behind any argument you MIGHT get from any current Sonic Boom member, saying you stole it. That's all.
All I'm saying is that the same 'soapbox' SU folks stood on when they talked about Under Pressure...is the same 'soapbox' JSU might get on now.....Does that make sense?
there shouldn't be a big fuss because others have been playing schools' songs and nothing has been said in the last few year. for example
Valley has been playing Can U Feel It, for the last few years
Jsu has played Zoom for the last 2 years and UAPB was the school in the SWAC plaiyng it.
I even heard UAPB play Backstaber, and everyone know that is Valley's ****
JSU even played a messed up version of Lovely Day( AAmu signature song) at the CCC last week. So if SU plays Swoop there shouldn't be any problems
I feel you should stop while you are ahead............... Jsu version of Lovely Day is not messed up. Your version of all the songs in your school's book is what is messed up.
the only point he was making is that everytime someone plays a song that southern played they have to be copying off them and we are returning the same favor.
Take for instance how Su tried to get mad at jsu for playing Neck almost like them when Alcorn plays Su version of NECK........ lol
I know what the problem is old heads get mad because the otehr bands version of a song is more powerful and sounds better than the opposing band.
PsychoJag
We Run The SWAC
The fact of the matter is that SU never gets mad if a band plays the same song as we do but it's when the arrangement sounds almost identical or certain parts our arrangers have conceived end up in the other band's version. Mr. Lawrence Jackson's of Swoop sounds nothing like Paul Adams' (SU grad) Our version sounds like the Dazz band's version with a little bit of Mr. J's flavor. I guarantee u that u will not hear any similarities in our version and JSU's. Now on the other hand JSU's Neck, The Show, Under Pressure, and definately 911 were inspired by us. Mr. J was inspired by the Dazz band.
BTW yes we had it before the JSU game but why play it at them?? That's not what it was written for.
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