ASU hit with 668 NCAA violations


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http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/NEWS/805070387/1007/NEWS01

The NCAA's nearly five-year investigation into Alabama State University's athletic department has uncovered at least 668 violations in four sports, according to a notice of allegations the university received last week.

Nearly 500 of the violations stem from ineligible football players being allowed to work out in the off season and 40 involve grades changed for football players without the knowledge of the instructors.

The most serious violation is for the university's lack of institutional control, including failure to train coaches on rules, failure to monitor the eligibility and advancement of players and poor record keeping.

"A lot of us saw this coming, because quite frankly, as this demonstrates, ASU simply is without a regulatory infrastructure," said Montgomery attorney Don Jackson, who specializes in NCAA litigation. "But still, to hear that said out loud -- '670 violations' -- is amazing."

The university and all individuals named in the violations, all of which occurred between 1999 and 2003, now have until June 27 to respond. The NCAA's Committee on Infractions will examine the evidence and the responses and plans to conduct a hearing at its Aug. 8-10 meetings. After the hearing, the committee will issue a final ruling and impose penalties against the school and responsible individuals.
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:xeye:
:smh:
 
Olde Hornet said:
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/NEWS/805070387/1007/NEWS01

The NCAA's nearly five-year investigation into Alabama State University's athletic department has uncovered at least 668 violations in four sports, according to a notice of allegations the university received last week.

Nearly 500 of the violations stem from ineligible football players being allowed to work out in the off season and 40 involve grades changed for football players without the knowledge of the instructors.

The most serious violation is for the university's lack of institutional control, including failure to train coaches on rules, failure to monitor the eligibility and advancement of players and poor record keeping.
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:confused::xeye: Ok, how can the grades be changed without the instructors knowledge? Who changed them?
 



Olde Hornet said:
The university and all individuals named in the violations, all of which occurred between 1999 and 2003, now have until June 27 to respond. The NCAA's Committee on Infractions will examine the evidence and the responses and plans to conduct a hearing at its Aug. 8-10 meetings. After the hearing, the committee will issue a final ruling and impose penalties against the school and responsible individuals.
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D@mn :smh:
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Blacknbengal said:
:confused::xeye: Ok, how can the grades be changed without the instructors knowledge? Who changed them?
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one of two parties are guilty....either somebody they know in the registrar's office or administration...or the coaches learned how to maneuver the system and changed them themselves....i so doubt the second one..but hey..its possible....


wow...what a shame....:smh::smh::smh:
 
Olde Hornet said:
http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080507/NEWS/805070387/1007/NEWS01

The most serious violation is for the university's lack of institutional control, including failure to train coaches on rules, failure to monitor the eligibility and advancement of players and poor record keeping.

"A lot of us saw this coming, because quite frankly, as this demonstrates, ASU simply is without a regulatory infrastructure," said Montgomery attorney Don Jackson, who specializes in NCAA litigation. "But still, to hear that said out loud -- '670 violations' -- is amazing."

The university and all individuals named in the violations, all of which occurred between 1999 and 2003, now have until June 27 to respond. The NCAA's Committee on Infractions will examine the evidence and the responses and plans to conduct a hearing at its Aug. 8-10 meetings. After the hearing, the committee will issue a final ruling and impose penalties against the school and responsible individuals.
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Wonder how many people were named and of that how many of those people are still working on the campus..
 
jsudiva04 said:
Wonder how many people were named and of that how many of those people are still working on the campus..
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The article gives some idea of those responsible. It looks likes the Coles will come out looking pretty good, just like they always said.

The problem is not the individual persons at ASU; it is the lack of administrative organization in the athletic dept. They had no person trained in compliance, or anybody that could read and understand the rules before a decision was made.
 
Oracle said:
The article gives some idea of those responsible. It looks likes the Coles will come out looking pretty good, just like they always said.

The problem is not the individual persons at ASU; it is the lack of administrative organization in the athletic dept. They had no person trained in compliance, or anybody that could read and understand the rules before a decision was made.
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:xeye: :lol:
 
I'll comment.

Look's like that NCAA investigator got lost on his way to JSU.
People alway's worried about the wrong thang.

No excuse for ASU Administration to be this unorganized.
Forget firing football coaches sweating in the hot sun.
It's time to clean house in those air conditioned buildings.:smh:
 
Former head football coach L.C. Cole was accused of five al*legations, down from the origi*nal 14 charges that led to his fir*ing in 2003. The serious charges -- procuring strippers for re*cruits and lying to an investiga*tor -- were among those dropped.

The five violations now faced by Cole: impermissible contact with the mother of a recruit, contact with two potential re*cruits invited by an assistant coach to meet football members at a restaurant, failure to ade*quately monitor his assistants and failure to report supplemen*tal income to the university.

"All I'll say now is that I'm confident we can answer the NCAA's questions," said Cole, who refused to answer ques*tions about specific violations because the NCAA had request*ed confidentiality. "The people at ASU ... have thrown a bunch of allegations out there and not one has been right yet. We'll an*swer these last ones here and be done with it."






Those that were in charge tried their best to mess up L.C. Cole and it turns out they messed up themselves. If they would have left him alone and let him perform his job none of this would have never happened. Now where is Joe Reed, thanks alot for causing this whole mess. We are going to be the next SMU if they don't get their act together.
 
HBCUagent said:
We are going to be the next SMU if they don't get their act together.
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Damn.... what is going to be ASU's punishment?


The total number of violations is likely to rise after ASU responds to the notice.

In the notice, for example, the NCAA reported 42 ineligible athletes certified to compete by ASU's compliance department. ASU must provide a list of games, practices and workouts participated in by the ineligible athletes. Each athlete could have participated in dozens of games, practices or workouts, and each instance would count as another violation.

"It could be 1,670 violations," Jackson said.

In a rare move, the NCAA named five former athletic directors, two former compliance officers and a former faculty athletic representative when detailing the university's lack of institutional control.
 
DAHILL said:
Damn.... what is going to be ASU's punishment?


The total number of violations is likely to rise after ASU responds to the notice.

In the notice, for example, the NCAA reported 42 ineligible athletes certified to compete by ASU's compliance department. ASU must provide a list of games, practices and workouts participated in by the ineligible athletes. Each athlete could have participated in dozens of games, practices or workouts, and each instance would count as another violation.

"It could be 1,670 violations," Jackson said.

In a rare move, the NCAA named five former athletic directors, two former compliance officers and a former faculty athletic representative when detailing the university's lack of institutional control.
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5 ADs??? Dang!!!

Well, I hope you all can survive this.
 



MikeBigg said:
shawiggi said:
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I will... DAMNN!!!!!!
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That is probably the first word that came to my mind.

players said:
I'll comment.

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No excuse for ASU Administration to be this unorganized.
Forget firing football coaches sweating in the hot sun.
It's time to clean house in those air conditioned buildings.:smh:
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I am no fan of the NCAA. But I will agree that a school should not be so unorganized.
 
I expect ALOT of fallout from this. From the players to the coaches. It's going to be hard to recruit players now.
 
Come on MANE!!!! I know he didn't try this...

procuring strippers for re*cruits and lying to an investiga*

Cooley Send Help!!!!
 
DAHILL said:
MH...what do you think the punishment is going to be?
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I don't know. There will be penalties, no doubt. But not for a second do I expect anything close to what some of yall are posting.
Remember these violations happened a few years ago and since then, the university has taken some corrective actions. We also self imposed scholarship reductions for 3 years. Those actions will lessen the penalties.
 
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