Article: Black wealth blossoms in (the Dallas-Ft. Worth) suburbs


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Black wealth blossoms in suburbs
D-FW ranks among top U.S. areas for well-off professionals


10:02 PM CDT on Saturday, June 25, 2005

By JENNIFER LaFLEUR / The Dallas Morning News


First of four parts

Dallas-Fort Worth is emerging as a dynamic center for high-income black professionals, after years of being little more than an afterthought in discussions about affluence.

The number of black households in the metro area that earn at least $100,000 tripled during the 1990s, propelling Dallas-Fort Worth into the ranks of the nation's leading metropolitan areas for upper-income black professionals, according to a Dallas Morning News analysis. Adjusted for inflation, $100,000 in 2000 is the equivalent of about $75,000 in 1990, the baseline for the analysis.

Among 28 metropolitan areas with at least 1 million people, and in which at least 10 percent of households are black, the Dallas-Fort Worth area has the sixth-highest percentage of black households making at least $100,000. That places the D-FW area behind established centers of black affluence such as Atlanta and Washington, D.C., and ahead of Indianapolis, Houston and Philadelphia.

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About two-thirds towards the bottom of the page, there will be a link titled Black Professionals: A new face of affluence. On that page there is a link where own can view and post comments. See the left-hand side of the page. Below are some of the comments. The Grambling folks especially will need to flex their muscles.

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June 26, 2005 09:25 a.m.
How about an article on just affluent professionals,why do we always have to go to the lowest common demoninator of Black and White?

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June 26, 2005 09:03 a.m.
I am shocked that this is even a story. What does it matter if Malcolm Mayo is black? Can't we just say "Here is a hard working person who bought himself a house". The DFW area attracts all people of many different backgrounds, this question is just plain stupid...


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June 26, 2005 08:43 a.m.
I feel that job opportunities and the cost of living is what attracts affluent blacks to the Dallas/Ft. Worth area. Also, older cities such as Atlanta and Washington, D.C. have "old guard" black families where it is difficult to get into inner circles and get to know people that share the same level of education and social stature.

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June 26, 2005 08:40 a.m.
The same thing that attracts white people. Jobs, Public Schools, Cleanliness,... white and black people aren't that different.

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June 26, 2005 06:41 a.m.
It is better than a lot of the surrounding states in terms of opportunity (Arkansas, Louisiana, New Mex, Oklahoma, Kansas)

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June 26, 2005 00:17 a.m.
It would be foolish to think racism still doesn't exist, but I think the Dallas-Fort Worth area has improved. Personally, I don't care what race you are, or how much money you make, as long as you're a good neighbor. In Dallas-Fort Worth, there are opportunities to make a nice living if you work hard for one race: the human race.

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June 25, 2005 10:43 p.m.
Simple, affirmative action. No where in the world can someone who graduates from Grambling(low SAT school) pass one who graduated from University of Texas(much higher SAT school)in the professional rank. Only in America can a specific race group get's away with such travesity, all to glorify there image. Morehead State does not equal UCLA in education, but in today's glorification of black state, you have such affluence that does not occur anywhere but in America.
 



Good Post/Article,

Common sense dictates that people should go where there?s opportunity.
Many of ?our? graduates are very talented. They/We just need an arena to display those talents.

Although my area of expertise affords me the ability to earn a respectable living almost
anywhere, It is so wonderful to see my friends prospering in the DFW area.

With the increasing number of employment opportunities, I may one day have the
The pleasure of treating you guys.

Build those strong families, enjoy life to the fullest, & Keep up the good work!
 
Our neighborhood is full of HBCU graduates in big houses with good jobs.

The biggest difference I see between my neighbors and us is that my next door neighbor works part time, and my neighbor across the way doesn't work at all. I, on the other hand, have what is considered a full time job.
 
I see,

Although we all should be applauded for the strides that we?ve made. The very next step of economic empowerment is creating. Passive Income
Anyone can become disabled, lose a job (for a multiple of reasons),
Or family composition can change.

The key is to use that disposable income to invest in avenues that generate income outside of that pay check.

There are many;

Personally my income from rental property can sustain me in the event of a loss of employment.

Whether it?s rental property, vending machines etc. etc.

Find ways to build Passive Income,
Then ?WE? can have that same luxury to decide to work, not work, part time, full time etc etc.
 
Killer Bees said:
Texas people and people who been there, what are your opinions on Dallas in general?

*walks in. looks. walks out*

Can't get past this tho'. lol

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June 25, 2005 10:43 p.m.
Simple, affirmative action. No where in the world can someone who graduates from Grambling(low SAT school) pass one who graduated from University of Texas(much higher SAT school)in the professional rank. Only in America can a specific race group get's away with such travesity, all to glorify there image. Morehead State does not equal UCLA in education, but in today's glorification of black state, you have such affluence that does not occur anywhere but in America.

Only in amerikkka can anyone from a *ahem* "much higher SAT school" :lol: , who is allegedly a professional lol, get away w/ <font color=red>murdering/butchering :slap: </font> the semantics & rules governing spoken and written English. :retard: ==> "all to glorify <u>there</u> image." WTF?! :retard: ==> "can a specific race group <u>get's</u> away with such travesty," WTF?! :retard: Okay, I'm done w/ the ridicule. :winkgrin:

Carry on.
 
Vinita said:
You know, for someone who HATES this area, yo' black azz shole iz still here. Why dat is?

I HATE the people (literally). It's not necessarily the location. ;) lol

U have biznezz to take care of from the *ahem* "higher SAT school" graduate and their non-effective use and mastery of the King's L'anglais. lol :slap:
 
Panthro said:
*walks in. looks. walks out*

Can't get past this tho'. lol



Only in amerikkka can anyone from a *ahem* "much higher SAT school" :lol: , who is allegedly a professional lol, get away w/ <font color=red>murdering/butchering :slap: </font> the semantics & rules governing spoken and written English. :retard: ==> "all to glorify <u>there</u> image." WTF?! :retard: ==> "can a specific race group <u>get's</u> away with such travesty," WTF?! :retard: Okay, I'm done w/ the ridicule. :winkgrin:

Carry on.

I feel as though I have lost some brain cells after reading that mindless dribble. The sad part is that he probably thought that he was being "intelligent".
 
BILBREW said:
I feel as though I have lost some brain cells after reading that mindless dribble. The sad part is that he probably thought that he was being "intelligent".

<b>Those</b> are the type of peeps that I've dealt w/ on almost a daily basis every day since I've been here. lol I have this "love/hate" relationship w/ white folx like those. They are the norm more than the exception IMO. You can almost see it in their faces below their ut-hook'em horns or aggie symbol laced head gear or shirts. lol A "special" kind of people who needs to be treated "special." lol

I don't know what black wealth exists in the 'burbs of Dallas. I don't visit the 'burbs because I live in the woods and am currently seeking to go further out (Whitesboro, Tx lol) to give the "runners" another dose of reality. lol
 
Panthro said:
<b>Those</b> are the type of peeps that I've dealt w/ on almost a daily basis every day since I've been here. lol I have this "love/hate" relationship w/ white folx like those. They are the norm more than the exception IMO. You can almost see it in their faces below their ut-hook'em horns or aggie symbol laced head gear or shirts. lol A "special" kind of people who needs to be treated "special." lol

I don't know what black wealth exists in the 'burbs of Dallas. I don't visit the 'burbs because I live in the woods and am currently seeking to go further out (Whitesboro, Tx lol) to give the "runners" another dose of reality. lol

I've dealt with those types as well. In addition, I have also dealt with some of us who felt that they were better simply because they went to Kennesaw State as opposed to Albany State.

There is some Black wealth here in the suburbs of Atlanta, but it is not as widespread as some would have you believe. Trust me, everyone in those $200K+ homes can't really afford them. All in all, there are still a lot of Blacks out here making moves. You just have to remember that at the end of the day you are still in Georgia.
 



This one is on the school systems.
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Black elite faces school-choice dilemma
Should they stay to improve district or switch?


08:31 AM CDT on Monday, June 27, 2005

By HERB BOOTH / The Dallas Morning News

With a child set to enter seventh grade this fall, attorney Aaron Ford has decided to uproot his family from Cedar Hill for Coppell. He's searching for a better public school.



BARBARA DAVIDSON/DMN
Ellen Edwards, who has a doctorate in Christian psychology, volunteers at Cedar Hill High School's cafeteria, picking up trash. She believes that serving in schools and mentoring will help students and the district. Meanwhile, Dr. D.G. Edwards overcame his initial skepticism about Cedar Hill schools and proudly watched his daughter graduate this year. She had been home-schooled before transferring to Cedar Hill. In bypassing big cities like Dallas to pursue the suburban American Dream, the Ford and Edwards families represent the dilemma some upwardly mobile black households feel as they try to find the best neighborhoods and schools for their children.

In some school districts where black affluence has increased so has poverty, raising new challenges for schools and questions for families. Do they stay and try to improve the public schools? Or do they use their financial resources to transfer their children into academically superior schools?

That quandary may be most evident in southern Dallas County, where cities and school districts have been transformed over two decades by a steady increase in the black population and, more recently, a rise in affluent black households.

According to a Dallas Morning News analysis, the number of black households earning at least $100,000 in the Dallas-Fort Worth area tripled during the 1990s, putting the region among the fastest-growing places for high-income blacks.

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Affluence troubles

Lancaster Superintendent Larry Lewis and DeSoto Superintendent Alton Frailey said that one problem with affluence in the schools is that students have access to so many material things that it can make an education seem less important to them.

"Johnny has his own room, his own computer, his own DVD player, his own XBox, his own everything, but he brings home C's and F's," Dr. Lewis said. "He'll eventually get his own car, and he thinks life is going to be that way the rest of his life. His priorities aren't what they should be."

Mr. Frailey said the mentality goes beyond that. Some black parents who struggled a generation or two ago to improve their economic status now have children who may expect everything to come easy. Or may not even believe that a good education is important to their futures.


"You're left with a population that may not buy into attainment," Mr. Frailey said, noting that some black students may deride others who excel academically. "It's strange. We're seeing a total decimation of what's important. Education is seen sometimes as a sellout."

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BILBREW said:
I've dealt with those types as well. In addition, I have also dealt with some of us who felt that they were better simply because they went to Kennesaw State as opposed to Albany State.

There is some Black wealth here in the suburbs of Atlanta, but it is not as widespread as some would have you believe. Trust me, everyone in those $200K+ homes can't really afford them. All in all, there are still a lot of Blacks out here making moves. You just have to remember that at the end of the day you are still in Georgia.

I have to laugh if folks from Kennesaw State are saying that. :rolleyes: Some people can be so silly. For years it was Kennesaw Junior College (www.kennesaw.edu/about/history.shtml) after it was founded in 1963. It did not offer a four-year degree until 1980.

Albany State in south Georgia has been around since 1903. The ASU Rams have had a 60-year head start on the folks in Cobb County. :lecture:

As for the affluent Blacks in Atlanta, most of them have been in Cascade Heights, Ben Hill and South Dekalb. I have noticed a some going into Clayton including some relatives. However, I hope that no one gets the silly idea and go to Forsyth County, which is north of Atlanta.
 
If my kids had to go to the Intermediate school Aaron Ford's kid had attended, I'd leave Cedar Hill, too.

Shoulda sent the chirren to me @ Beltline like the other parents do. Yup. That's right, I said it. Parents put in transfer requests to our school, then request ME SPECIFICALLY. So, say what ya wanna about the state of public school education. I'm doing MY damned job.

Let 'em get out there to Coppell with them cutthroat crackers and Asians, and them teachers who only give a dayum about their own and the school board kids, and their kids will get that great, academically "rigorous" education, aight ... and a whole bunch dayumed more ...
 
EB said:
As for the affluent Blacks in Atlanta, most of them have been in Cascade Heights, Ben Hill and South Dekalb. I have noticed a some going into Clayton including some relatives. However, I hope that no one gets the silly idea and go to Forsyth County, which is north of Atlanta.

Clayton County is turning rough. My sister said the roughnecks from Atlanta are moving there now especially since they created a transit system. She is working on moving out of Clayton County.
 
People individually define what?s valuable

All Parents. Directly or Indirectly impart a ?value system?
On their kids.

Everyone should establish a ?value system? and
Do the best they can to perform optimally with in that system.

Whether that?s private/public school, playstation/no playstation etc etc.

Value Systems work well with other things also i.e. relationships,

~Do your duty, which is best?.
 
Killer Bees said:
Clayton County is turning rough. My sister said the roughnecks from Atlanta are moving there now especially since they created a transit system. She is working on moving out of Clayton County.

A lot of people are drawn to Clayton County since it is cheaper than some other spots. As a result, you sometimes get an element that you won't find in some other predominantly-minority areas.

The same thing that happens in apartment complexes happens in subdivisions as well, particularly if they are mostly "starter" homes. We saw the element in the subdivision that I used to live in change overnight once people sold their homes for bigger ones or started renting their homes out. I hate to generalize, but nine times out of ten you could pinpoint who was renting and who owned their home just by observing them(upkeep of the home and yard, behavior of the kids, etc.). You can still buy a 3- or 4-bedroom home in Ellenwood, Rex, or Morrow for less than $120K, so that brings in folks that you won't tend to find in areas where the average home is $150K and up.

To respond to EB, I hope no one gets the bright idea to move to Forsyth either. Hell, the further out from Downtown you are the more bs you are likely to have to face. That is why it kills me when Blacks run out and buy homes in Hampton, McDonough, Porterdale, etc. simply because they are cheaper.
 
BILBREW said:
A lot of people are drawn to Clayton County since it is cheaper than some other spots. As a result, you sometimes get an element that you won't find in some other predominantly-minority areas.

The same thing that happens in apartment complexes happens in subdivisions as well, particularly if they are mostly "starter" homes. We saw the element in the subdivision that I used to live in change overnight once people sold their homes for bigger ones or started renting their homes out. I hate to generalize, but nine times out of ten you could pinpoint who was renting and who owned their home just by observing them(upkeep of the home and yard, behavior of the kids, etc.). You can still buy a 3- or 4-bedroom home in Ellenwood, Rex, or Morrow for less than $120K, so that brings in folks that you won't tend to find in areas where the average home is $150K and up.

To respond to EB, I hope no one gets the bright idea to move to Forsyth either. Hell, the further out from Downtown you are the more bs you are likely to have to face. That is why it kills me when Blacks run out and buy homes in Hampton, McDonough, Porterdale, etc. simply because they are cheaper.

Do black people live in the inner city of Atlanta. I only see people mention towns outside of the area. Never anything regarding a side of town.
 
EB said:
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June 26, 2005 09:25 a.m.
How about an article on just affluent professionals,why do we always have to go to the lowest common demoninator of Black and White?
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Some White folx only realize that they are White when they are around Black folx. That's why some of them hate to bring up race. They can't accept that in America racisim still exists.
 
Vinita said:
You should bring yo' crazy arse out here and hang with us. :tup: :nod:

Gul "L". U KNOW that's my lifelong goal but I got this problem w/ Dwight. :winkgrin: I get something (can't explain it) out of being the first to integrate a certain area, etc. :smh: Dwight is running way out yonda' and I'mma chase his arse right out thur too! After I'm done w/ Dwight, I'll come on back home. :emlaugh: Seriously, if I had my preference, I'd want to be around my own peeps in the same socioeconomic level. :confused: Don't know what I said, hope it makes sense. How far is DFW airport from <b>The Man</b>? Need accessibility there.

EB!!!!! :mad: I think u tryna' start some stuff w/ these articles bruh! :lol:
 
northern tiger said:
Do black people live in the inner city of Atlanta. I only see people mention towns outside of the area. Never anything regarding a side of town.

The City of Atlanta, much like many other cities in America, is going through gentrification. For the most part, there are areas that you can't afford to live in and then areas that you general would not wish to live in. There is very little in between, so a lot of middle-class Blacks end up in DeKalb, Clayton, Gwinnett, Cobb, etc.

I am sure Dallas is similar since most of the DFW people that I know live in the suburbs as well.
 
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