Anyone else intrigued by the level of talent headed to Valley's Football Program?


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It must be an exciting time in Itta Bena. I am very intrigued by their list of signees and how many HBCU fans I know who are talking about Comegy's efforts.

Why?

1. Valley has been down in the dumps of the struggling SWAC conference and HBCU football overall rankings. Valley's current list of signees is full of high school standouts. 11 of 18 signees were either nationally ranked by rivals/247 or received some type of All-Star honors. (Very impressive for Valley).
2. There are players on the team that lost to Concordia for crying out loud. These guys have to be tired of losing!
3. They have a coach who was shown the door at Jackson State after building a SWAC East contender machine, but not winning enough championships.
4. Last years defense gave up too many big plays, but showed some very good speedy players who return for the 2014 season. Valley currently has two 2 star DB's on their recruiting list who both had several FBS offers who will join a secondary led by FCS All-American DB Avery Boykin.
5. Valley lacks depth on the line, but has 8 lineman enrolling this summer to increase the number significantly. I expect the 2 star lineman from Florida and the 300 pound JUCO star to both start this season.
6. The offense struggled to move the ball when it counted, but brings in two 6'4 and 6'6 true freshman WR's who both saw some good days in high school on the football field as well as the basketball court. This can be a big time factor for whoever wins the QB job because tall WR's in the SWAC with the ability to get pretty high in the air usually rack up a few more points on the scoreboard. Just ask SU and PVAMU fans what a WR/basketball hopper do for your passing game.
7. Valley's special teams unit is about to see just how much a good kicker can help you win a few close games. Field goal problems will be a thing of the past once that kid from Florida starts in week 1.

I am not a fan for throwing freshman out to the college football jungle, but Valley does have plenty of "former high school standouts' in their 2014 class that will have to grow up early. I do feel that Valley has some ways to go before anyone should fear them being a SWAC East Contender, but you have to give Comegy credit for bringing Valley to a level of recruiting that they have never been before. 10K reviews on their 2014 signee thread compared to only 5 replies on their 2013 thread shows that my points are indeed valid. There is no way anyone expected Valley two increase their signee list from a quality 4 to 18 in Comegy's first season at Mississippi Valley. Call me a clown because Comegy already has a reputation of being a hard recruiter, but there is no way anyone expected to see this type of class at Valley this soon in his quest to turn the program around.

I know it's a lot of fans see the JSU-MVSU-Comegy hype adding to everyone's post and views, but the fact remains that these guys are already on a level that many Valley alums/fans aren't use to being on when it comes to highly recruited players. Now, I wonder how this hype will effect the program. Will we see the same old "play tough on first and second down, play weak on third and fourth down" Valley of the past? Or could we see the same type of hard nose football teams that Comegy built at Central State, Tuskegee and Jackson State? If I had to make a decision today, I would say that Valley is going to be a factor in the SWAC starting in 2015. I could be wrong, but I just can't see Valley not being the type of program that wins more than 6 games every year under Comegy based on what he has done in the past.

One different approach that two other members of this board have already pointed out is that Comegy has only given out scholarship offers to players who come from winning high schools in this class. His track record shows that he gives offers to anyone who can play. I guess he is really wants to change the losing culture at Valley by only bringing in winners. I hope that doesn't backfire on him, but then again, Valley has a legitimate recruiting class to showcase this year. Those who really follow college football recruiting and state/nationwide high school player rankings already know this. I must say, if Comegy can turn things around,(and I think he will), the SWAC East could really be something special. Alcorn, JSU and Valley can really be a force to the NCAA-FCS just as Mississippi JUCO's are a force to the NJCAA.

As far as 2014 goes, I do expect to see a much more disciplined team that I have seen from Valley since 2006.
 
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As far as 2014 goes, I do expect to see a much more disciplined team that I have seen from Valley since 2006.

Wait, what??!?!?!!? Then you must not know Comegy-led teams. I expect to see a much more "undisciplined" team that I've seen from Valley since I don't know when.
 



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All I'm gone say is Comegy is your coach and Hayes is your defensive coordinator. That is all.

wash...rinse...repeat... because SURELY we didn't know who our head coach and defensive coordinator were.....
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

Btw, what hype? I have seen any.
 
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You are right man. Comegy does have me glued in to Valley's growing list of signees. I have never paid this much attention to Valley's class or have been sent this many inside scoops on their players.


I feel that Valley's secondary has the potential to be very good in the SWAC with ** Javon O'Neil and **T. Young. O'Neil had more FBS offers than any other 2014 SWAC signee. He even had more than Southern's 2013 *** WR and #1 FCS ESPN ranked recruit Chuck Baker. That is absolutely an amazing recruiting statement for Comegy at Valley.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/188886/javon-oneal


** OL Ben Lyda, (who Comegy was able to steal from Western Michigan), is another rookie who will have to grow up fast for Valley as they need help up front.

You pointed out those two tall basketball player/WR's that Comegy brought to Valley, but Comegy also got WR Tavis Jones to decommit from Memphis to come to Valley as well. I guess ya'll think I am making this stuff up. http://memphis.scout.com/a.z?s=350&p=8&c=1&nid=7033364


I don't know what in the hell Comegy is promising these boys or where he is taking them to eat when he meets them, but this is some serious recruiting. We all know Comegy loves to snatch leftovers afters recruiting day has ended, but what he has done in March and June has Valley now one of the most impressive classes in the SWAC.
 
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Valley will not be good THIS year. Comegy may be able to build a program but he is starting from scratch at Valley. Give him atleast 2 years before judging. It took ole buddy at Alcorn 2 years to get them into shape. Comegy can't do what he did at JSU back in 2006 these days.
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

You are right man. Comegy does have me glued in to Valley's growing list of signees. I have never paid this much attention to Valley's class or have been sent this many inside scoops on their players.


I feel that Valley's secondary has the potential to be very good in the SWAC with ** Javon O'Neal and **T. Young. O'Neil had more FBS offers than any other 2014 SWAC signee. He even had more than Southern's 2013 *** WR and #1 FCS ESPN ranked recruit Chuck Baker. That is absolutely an amazing recruiting statement for Comegy at Valley.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/188886/javon-oneal

I'm sure this O'Neal kid is good, but don't put a lot of stock in who offered whom. You never know what really happened with those offers. Look at this kid we signed: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/188455/keontre-anderson. Multiple SEC offers and a much higher grade than O'Neal, but in the end, we only had to beat out Alcorn and a couple other schools to get him. I'm glad he's here and I hope he produces but there are no guarantees. In the end, I just want good athletes that our coaches believe in, and I want a coaching staff that will put them in a position to succeed.
 
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One different approach that two other members of this board have already pointed out is that Comegy has only given out scholarship offers to players who come from winning high schools in this class. His track record shows that he gives offers to anyone who can play. I guess he is really wants to change the losing culture at Valley by only bringing in winners.


I am watching Curtis Johnson taking this approach at Tulane as we speak. With a horrible depth chart and a bunch of true freshman and sophomores, I watched the Green Wave win 4 games in the fourth quarter, 2 in OT, to give them 7 wins this season. The most in 10 years.
I haven't heard this many NOLA people talking about Tulane Football since Shaun King was the QB.

Valley has been on the short end of the stick with several close games for the past 8 years. Having all of those kids on the sidelines who are only use to winning can be the difference in tight games for a program that is use to losing. Kids like Nelson Hale, their new DT who had 105 tackles last year in route to 12-1 record, can only help you with your program believe that they belong in on the field with the best teams in the conference. I don't find anything wrong with what Comegy is doing by only giving offers to kids from winning school. The big difference from JSU and Tuskegee was the fact that he came in expecting to win at traditionally winning programs. At Valley, I think he knows he has to totally change mentality of the program. It won't backfire on him.

Oh, Nelson looks like expects to win. Lol.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/155694/nelson-hale
 
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I'm sure this O'Neal kid is good, but don't put a lot of stock in who offered whom. You never know what really happened with those offers. Look at this kid we signed: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/188455/keontre-anderson. Multiple SEC offers and a much higher grade than O'Neal, but in the end, we only had to beat out Alcorn and a couple other schools to get him. I'm glad he's here and I hope he produces but there are no guarantees. In the end, I just want good athletes that our coaches believe in, and I want a coaching staff that will put them in a position to succeed.


I hear ya, but you have been misinformed if you think that ya'll just had to beat out Alcorn for this kid. Anderson is a damn good get and steal for JSU. I follow recruits throughout the year and can tell you that this kid was given plenty of praise at Mississippi State's camp his junior year.


And yes, I think he is going to shine in the SWAC early.




http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-foot...e-miss-rebels-and-mississippi-state-bulldogs/
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

I hear ya, but you have been misinformed if you think that ya'll just had to beat out Alcorn for this kid. Anderson is a damn good get and steal for JSU. I follow recruits throughout the year and can tell you that this kid was given plenty of praise at Mississippi State's camp his junior year.


And yes, I think he is going to shine in the SWAC early.




http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-foot...e-miss-rebels-and-mississippi-state-bulldogs/

There was full feature on this kid in the Clarion Ledger after he signed. He discussed receiving offers from BCS schools and then not hearing from the schools afterwards. It happens. Probably happened to O'Neal although his offers were from lower-tier FCS schools.
 
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There was full feature on this kid in the Clarion Ledger after he signed. He discussed receiving offers from BCS schools and then not hearing from the schools afterwards. It happens. Probably happened to O'Neal although his offers were from lower-tier FCS schools.

I know it happens, but the big boys are known for completely pulling their offers when they are no longer interested. This wasn't the case with Anderson. Sometimes these guys go from seeing so much praises and everyday phone/letters from these major schools, until they get discouraged about their playing time/starting chances when those schools bring their immediate attention to another recruit. That's what I believed happen to Anderson. He was on a another level in the recruiting game as a junior. I know for a fact that Lionel Washington at Tulane and Vol's coach Jancek wanted him badly. JSU has a very good player coming in.
 



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The other schools cooled on Anderson because there was a question to the health of his knee.
 
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I don't see the hype....but no hate will come from Lynch st. We know Comegy through and through so I say this with confidence: He will do the best that he can at valley and he will have a winning record there before he retires. I give him two years to fully turn them around.
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

I expect Comegy to have a 500 record at valley this season.
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

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yes, kenn gave us a lecture on flaming.... who is flaming in here?
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

I believe in Comegy becasue I know the man is a winner. However, his way of winning is stacking the field with talent. If you expect some strategy, you can forget it. He did what he did at Tuskegee because he could. Some of those guys would only enroll in the fall to play football. Comegy was the AD and there was no APR (still not in D2) so Comegy could do as he pleased. However, I don't see him making Valley into a SWAC contender. Comegy may stay 3-4 years and then retire. The difference here is that 7-4 is just enough at JSU to get consideration of keeping your job. 7-4 at Valley is cause for a parade. Comegy won't be a loser. I think he will win 6-7 games consistently but he won't able to get Valley to JSU's level. ..

..and I need SOMEBODY to go ahead and tell Chang what to expect on 3rd and long.. :lmao: This schitt bout to be funny.
 
Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

I expect Comegy to have a 500 record at valley this season.


i would love to see Valley do well. Alcorn fans still didn't show up in Jackson last year but maybe they expected another beat down. If Valley can become decent again, it can only help JSU's bottomline. ...and that's a great thing. :)
 
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i would love to see Valley to well. Alcorn fans still didn't show up in Jackson last year but maybe they expected another beat down. If Valley can become decent again, it can only help JSU's bottomline. ...and that's a great thing. :)

Hahaha. I feel yeah on that.
 
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He is sensitive plus his buddies aint in here for him to cosign. News flash people are not going to always be a fan, deal with it!! A question was asked in the topic, the people on here are answering the question and giving reasons why they are not intrigued yet this clown comes in here and writes an essay on flaming.

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Re: Anyone else intrigued by Valley's football hype and Comegy's work thus far?

The thing is NOBODY from Valley is HYPING anything. All we did was made a thread much like others did for signing day and just added names as they signed. Hell the originator of this post isn't even from Valley. Logical people know it takes time to rebuild a program. It just seems to me that some people are feeling a certain type of way because Valley is getting some publicity and an influx of quality talent. As for this "hype", it's not coming from the Delta Devils.
 
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