SWAC APR


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Re: NO MORE EXCUSES

JR said:
You have a lot to learn youngster. LOL. Media is the least of any of our worries. But again, you are not in the real world yet and not out of MS to understand that it aint no media blitz about poor SU. Carry on.

BTW, I don't need to be buddy buddy with any JSU poster on here. LOL. I got enough REAL JSU long term friends and relatives who think totally different than any of yall that post here. LOL.
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yea yea your barbershop crew....cool!
 
JAG89 said:
I see you weren't in a technical program. Let me TRY to help you understand. When I took fluid mechanics at SU, it was required that I enrolled in a fluid mechanics lab class too for an additional 3 hours a week in order to complete the course without getting an incomplete. I only received a total of 3 credit hours for taking the fluid mechanics lecture and the fluid mechanics lab, which required a totally of 6 hours per week of me physically being in class. Schools that are on the semester system, 3 hours per week in a class equals 3 credit hours. Engineering Schools can't meet ABET accreditation unless they show proof that their students have spent a certain amount of hours in lab classes before they graduate. In order for Engineering Schools to maintain enrollment, they hide those zero hour lab classes in their catalog. Most incoming students don't realize they have to take those classes until they are being advised by their academic counselor.
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Ok I got that part....now tie it all together. What is it about the 5 and 6 year programs that affect your apr differently?
 



Bleedbluefan said:
Ok I got that part....now tie it all together. What is it about the 5 and 6 year programs that affect your apr differently?
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It seems like the NCAA penalizes schools when their athletes don't finish school within the required time frame for each academic program. If the time frame was expanded for those programs that can be expanded, most schools would have a better chance of meeting their APR. For example, if schools decided to properly report those 5- and 6- year programs as 5- and 6- year programs instead of 4-year programs, the school would have given the student athletes in those programs more time to complete the academic program without being penalized.
 
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Without even reading all of this... let me guess:

The Lynch Street crew is still whining about their ban in 2011 and want everyone else to pay and posting half truths and lies to prove their point

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In_The_662 said:
Without even reading all of this... let me guess:

The Lynch Street crew is still whining about their ban in 2011 and want everyone else to pay and posting half truths and lies to prove their point
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Without even reading your post, let me guess: it's anti-JSU and wrong as usual. It's actually folks who are banned who are complaining. We have no reason to complain but we sure do have reason to laugh.:lol:
 
jag4life said:
Our scores have never been as low as yours were.
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1.) Our scores were never really low... esp not lower than TxSo, PV, Gram, AlaState, etc... We just had an incompetent compliance office that didn't care.
2.) JSU has only had ONE sport in APR trouble.. can you say the same?
 
Below is majority of the NCAA 5- or 6- year academic program section. It seems like academic eligible students are granted more APR eligibility points for enrolling in 5- and 6- year programs.

NCAA Division I Academic Performance Program
Data Collection Guide
Page No. 51
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CALCULATING THE APR FOR FIVE- AND SIX-YEAR DEGREE PROGRAMS

General

Question No. 1

What is the definition of a five- or six-year baccalaureate degree program?

If the student-athlete's academic program is identified in the institution's official catalog as a five- or six-year baccalaureate degree program, it should be treated as such for purposes of determining the student-athlete's APR eligibility points. In addition, any baccalaureate degree program that requires at least 150-semester or 225-quarter hours to complete is considered a five-year baccalaureate degree program, according to NCAA legislation.

Question No. 2

How are APR points awarded for student-athletes enrolled in five- and six-year programs?

A student-athlete enrolled in a five- or six-year degree program will earn an eligibility point in a term if the student-athlete is academically eligible to compete the following regular academic term based on applicable eligibility requirements for five- or six-year baccalaureate degree programs. A student-athlete enrolled in a five- or six-year degree program will earn a retention point if the student-athlete is retained as a full-time student the following regular academic term.

Question No. 3

How is the APR eligibility point determined for a student-athlete enrolled in a five- or six-year degree program during the last term of his or her fifth year?
The APR eligibility point normally is awarded only if a student-athlete graduates at the conclusion of five years. A student-athlete enrolled in a five- or six-year degree program who is completing his or her fifth year, will be awarded a point for eligibility in the last term, provided he or she meets the academic requirements outlined below.

Five-Year Degree Programs

A student-athlete in a five-year degree program, or a degree that requires a minimum of 150-semester or 225-quarter hours for completion, must meet the following academic requirements to be awarded an eligibility point for the last regular academic term of his or her fifth year:

The rest can read in the NCAA PDF at: http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools...2011-12/misc_non_event/APPCollectionGuide.pdf
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Tigerpride said:
1.) Our scores were never really low... esp not lower than TxSo, PV, Gram, AlaState, etc... We just had an incompetent compliance office that didn't care.
2.) JSU has only had ONE sport in APR trouble.. can you say the same?
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Are you sure about that? I hate making people seem like a constant liar especially Phi so you really need to go back and your scores since the inception of APR.:read:
 



JROCK said:
It probably has something to do with APR. :lol: :emlaugh:
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I've always said academics play a big part in sports. If an athletic student is more academically inclined than another athletic student with the same physical attributes, which student would you pick?
 
When you can't go toe to toe about you institution's failed attempt at submitting bogus paper-work... post a video that has nothing to do with the topic at hand! Ok jag89, I get it now so let the ncaa know that you guys have 5 and 6 year programs that are disguised as 4 year programs so you will not be penalized about not graduating "on time". Why hasn't su done that?
 
Re: Can Offering More Online Degrees Help the SWAC's APR Situation?

The Founder said:
BINGO! Especially the part in red.
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yep when you watch Kentucky, look at those goofy assume looking white boys that they have on the bench. While we may laugh at them for riding the pine, they are actually serving their purpose and boosting the APR.
 
Bleedbluefan said:
When you can't go toe to toe about you institution's failed attempt at submitting bogus paper-work... post a video that has nothing to do with the topic at hand! Ok jag89, I get it now so let the ncaa know that you guys have 5 and 6 year programs that are disguised as 4 year programs so you will not be penalized about not graduating "on time". Why hasn't su done that?
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You ask a good question. SU might have realized that minor technicality, but SU's problem is with our former AD not turning in any paper work. And I'm sure there are other technicalities that could help a school's APR, but one would have to completely understand the APR guidelines.
 
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Re: Can Offering More Online Degrees Help the SWAC's APR Situation?

Devil's Gun Trigger Man said:
yep when you watch Kentucky, look at those goofy assume looking white boys that they have on the bench. While we may laugh at them for riding the pine, they are actually serving their purpose and boosting the APR.
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And they could also serve as tutors for their teammates.
 
lilrj1919 said:
Are you sure about that? I hate making people seem like a constant liar especially Phi so you really need to go back and your scores since the inception of APR.:read:
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yep.. you can go back and check for yourself. When JSU was banned, one of my MAIN gripes was that the presidents from TxSo, GSU and PV voted against us when their scores were WORSE than ours.
 
Bleedbluefan said:
When you can't go toe to toe about you institution's failed attempt at submitting bogus paper-work... post a video that has nothing to do with the topic at hand! Ok jag89, I get it now so let the ncaa know that you guys have 5 and 6 year programs that are disguised as 4 year programs so you will not be penalized about not graduating "on time". Why hasn't su done that?
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They don't care if they graduate on time.. APR measures PROGRESS toward graduaion. If I took only 15 hours a semester at JSU in my chemistry program, I would not have finished in 4 years. The NCAA only wants to ensure that the kids are, at minimum, passing 15 credit hours per semester. PERIOD. They don't go back to see if the kid graduated. He could have changed majors or something and would be there 5 years anyway. These people are trying to make up excuses.
 
Tigerpride said:
yep.. you can go back and check for yourself. When JSU was banned, one of my MAIN gripes was that the presidents from TxSo, GSU and PV voted against us when their scores were WORSE than ours.
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For one you said your scores were "never" lower. Now you coming around saying When JSU was banned. Make up your mind dude lol
 
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