Why are Black folks hating on Tavis Smiley?

[JayRob]

I comfortable in living a simple life. Im a simple man who wants a family to provide and break bread with, if we as black men get back to this a lot of things will change. It will take time but we have to get back to being family orientated.

The Black women have to quit driving us from the house with this welfare mess and that mouth, then maybe....just MAYBE the family can be revived.

 

[GoodFella]

Call it what you want but my statements still stands. You came in disagreeing with me asking questions yet couldn't pull up evidence to refute what I posted. Then you have the audacity to tell me to shut the hell up or answer the questions like you the police lol. Why should I engage in an intelligent convo with you bruh, when you come out telling people to shut the hell up? GTFOTH you are not running shat over here mane, OBAMA has failed so far. Substantiate that mofo :emlaugh:

The only thing you said basically that my statements were weak.

I will leave it alone because you're not intelligent enough to substantiate your point. You can cuss me until you're blue in the face. Don't put that weak contention out there unless you're prepared to engage in intellectual discourse course which apparently you're not equipped to do. If knowing you were weak on this topic, you should have followed directions and shut the hell up. You can't shuck and jive your way out of some things.....

 

[SUJagFan]

You're on a roll, JayRob.

Religious wacko, political wacko, tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist wacko ....

You're an outlier. Maybe that's good ... or very bad. You have to figure out which.

 

[TSU/BAMA]

In Cliff's defense. Cornell West has been a mainstream black intellectual since the early 90's. He wrote Race Matters back in 1994. He did go after Bush like a dog. I also do feel that black people are overly sensitive to anyone who doesn't kiss the ring when it comes to Obama but that is a symptom on a bigger problem. The black community in general suffers from a bad case of group think and anyone who dare steps outside of that groupthink circle is dubbed a sell out.

I kiss no one's ring OK. Now having said that, have Cornell West ever taught at Howard, Hampton, Fisk, Tuskegee, Texas Southern, Grambling, etc.? So Cornell West is a mainstream black intellectual?? Ok. If you say so.

 

[FAMU CLIFF]

I kiss no one's ring OK. Now having said that, have Cornell West ever taught at Howard, Hampton, Fisk, Tuskegee, Texas Southern, Grambling, etc.? So Cornell West is a mainstream black intellectual?? Ok. If you say so.

So I guess Henry Louis Gates isnt mainstream based on your criteria listed above. Sigh

 

[TSU/BAMA]

West and Smiley have been on the scene long before Obama became known.
West graduated from Harvard magna cum laude.
For decades he's spoken out regarding the plight of Black Americans and the constant racism Blacks face in this country.
Both West and Smiley have been fighting the fight for the middle and underclass for decades.
For you to label them as fools and shit talking pompous asses is the height of ignorance and speaks volumes about your posts.

Like someone said earlier, I applaud the men for not kissing the ring, but telling it like it is. At least they're not talking behind Obama's back. Some folks would rather they do this than tell him how they're disappointed in his treatment of Black folks.

:smh:

 

[FAMU CLIFF]

What has he failed at though? Is he not the President of the USA? Was he suppose to change the path of a country that has been this way since it was founded? Would you and these other folks expect the CEO or the President of your company to change the way it has been doing business or support the share holders of your company?

So you are saying if you put a Black face on Bush policies, we should be proud and shut up because it is a Black face.

 

[FAMU CLIFF]

The problem with many black people is they expect President Obama to be Moses or Jesus and solve all of the nations problems. Some people will never understand that the President is only human and does the best that he can with the hand that he has been dealt. There are checks and balances in our system of government which consist of three branches (executive, judicial and legislative). This is not a dictatorship where the president can do as he please. You are dealing with an obstructionist legislative branch as well as a conservative judicial branch. Those that believe the President hasn't done his best, outline what he should have done as well as whether his executive authority covers this endeavor. If you can't shut the hell up.

You mean like his unilateral decision to NOT enforce the employer part of the AHCA? LOL He just did that like two weeks ago.

 

[TSU/BAMA]

So I guess Henry Louis Gates isnt mainstream based on your criteria listed above. Sigh

What have Henry Louis Gates ever done for the black community? What have Travis Smiley ever done for the black community? What have Cornell West ever done for the black community? Talk is cheap.

 

[SUJagFan]

You mean like his unilateral decision to NOT enforce the employer part of the AHCA? LOL He just did that like two weeks ago.

Is that what happened? Or are you misrepresenting what actually happened?

Are you sure he didn't just delay it for a year rather than unilaterally deciding to not enforce it as you claim?

 

[JROCK]

You mean like his unilateral decision to NOT enforce the employer part of the AHCA? LOL He just did that like two weeks ago.

That's small potatoes. The important thing is he got the AHCA passed which no previous president was successful in accomplishing. That's another problem that folks have which is majoring in minor things. It is the law of the land and the obstructionist need to get over themselves.......LMAO!

 

[JROCK]

Is that what happened? Or are you misrepresenting what actually happened?

Are you sure he didn't just delay it for a year rather than unilaterally deciding to not enforce it as you claim?

Of course he is. Some of these people would attempt to nit pick this man to oblivion. :lol: :emlaugh:

 

[FAMU CLIFF]

Is that what happened? Or are you misrepresenting what actually happened?

Are you sure he didn't just delay it for a year rather than unilaterally deciding to not enforce it as you claim?

The executive branch does not have the leeway to delay enforcement of law. That should be put back to congress for an amendment.

 

[FAMU CLIFF]

What have Henry Louis Gates ever done for the black community? What have Travis Smiley ever done for the black community? What have Cornell West ever done for the black community? Talk is cheap.

Scholarship on our history and study of the current condition of our community is "Nothing"? Cant believe some actually graduated from a university. By the way, what has Obama done for Blacks. How many years ago was it the Bobby Rush and Black Chicago laughed at Obama and called him white boy? Come on playa.

 

[SUJagFan]

The executive branch does not have the leeway to delay enforcement of law. That should be put back to congress for an amendment.

That's not true.

In every jurisdiction in America, whether local, state or federal, the enforcement of laws is prioritized based upon those resources that restrict us all - time and money. Some ... executive ... makes that decision. There are many laws in your city that don't get enforced. In your state. Who makes those decisions?

Here's a list of stupid laws from the State of Florida. LINK

Who makes the decision to not enforce the law that only sex in the missionary position is legal?

 

[JROCK]

That's not true.

In every jurisdiction in America, whether local, state or federal, the enforcement of laws is prioritized based upon those resources that restrict us all - time and money. Some ... executive ... makes that decision. There are many laws in your city that don't get enforced. In your state. Who makes those decisions?

Here's a list of stupid laws from the State of Florida. LINK

Who makes the decision to not enforce the law that only sex in the missionary position is legal?

Not to mention, this delay doesn't effect 99% of businesses (majoring in minor things).

 

[MetroPhillyTiger]

Cornel should get a gig on Fox News

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/cornel-west-msnbc-rent-negro-phenomenon

Cornel West continued his attack on the president in the wake of Obama's speech after the George Zimmerman verdict. This time West went after MSNBC, calling the network a "rent-a-Negro" phenomenon, EURweb reports.

 

[CEE DOG]

Show me where I said that at and I can understand your point. My point in basic terms is every person in this country who works for someone else does what that company ask of them for their career paths. So does that mean you are a sellout at your job towards other blacks?

So you are saying if you put a Black face on Bush policies, we should be proud and shut up because it is a Black face.

 

[SUJagFan]

Cornel should get a gig on Fox News

http://www.theroot.com/buzz/cornel-west-msnbc-rent-negro-phenomenon

Cornel West continued his attack on the president in the wake of Obama's speech after the George Zimmerman verdict. This time West went after MSNBC, calling the network a "rent-a-Negro" phenomenon, EURweb reports.

Today I was thinking he's no different than Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. He's basically doing the same thing.

Ol' bitter, mad-ass, hating-ass n*gros. :lol:

 

[JayRob]

Of course he is. Some of these people would attempt to nit pick this man to oblivion. :lol: :emlaugh:

Exhibit A. See, that poster never said don't criticize Obama, however he says folks are nit picking this man to oblivion. Any time someone begins a conversation criticizing the Obama, folks don't look at the actual substance of what's being said, they focus on the PERSON making the accusation and it discombobulates their thinking processes.
Many INSTANTLY put up their antennas and go into defense mode. To hell with what the person said, just focus on the fact that they criticized my "Black" President.

All the time they're forgetting the fact that the man is NOT Black. He was raised by his mother, a WHITE woman all his life. Now marinate on that for a moment and maybe that'll help you back away from the tree so you can see the forest.

 

[JayRob]

Today I was thinking he's no different than Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. He's basically doing the same thing.

Ol' bitter, mad-ass, hating-ass n*gros. :lol:

Exhibit B. So the history of these two men mean nothing now that they've criticized Obama the Great?! Say what?
These men have been fighting for Black rights LONG before Obama came on the scene, but they're nothing now because they criticized your savior.

You KEEP proving my case but refuse to see it.:smh:

Obama the Christ is NOT above criticism so please stop getting so defensive. Just TRY and listen to what West and Smiley are saying. Perhaps there's some merit or a few nuggets of truth.
If not, try rebutting with intelligent retorts instead of useless elementary rhetoric.

 

[SUJagFan]

Have a seat, JayRob.

Nobody gives a damn about what you're talking about. :lol:

 

[JayRob]

Have a seat, JayRob.

Nobody gives a damn about what you're talking about. :lol:

As usual, no substance or enlightenment.

 

[JROCK]

Have a seat, JayRob.

Nobody gives a damn about what you're talking about. :lol:

That guys entire existence is to dummy down as many good conversations as possible. I stopped responding to his posts a long time ago. If there was a block button, it would have been utilized a long time ago. :lol: :emlaugh:

 

[Dr. Phreeze]

That guys entire existence is to dummy down as many good conversations as possible. I stopped responding to his posts a long time ago. If there was a block button, it would have been utilized a long time ago. :lol: :emlaugh:

There is an ignore option on the site...