Steve Nash goes to the Lakers in a sign and trade deal


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Steve Nash is headed to the Los Angeles Lakers after the Phoenix Suns agreed to a sign-and-trade deal that will bring them four first-round draft picks.

Steve Nash will get a guaranteed three-year, $27 million contract from the Lakers. (Getty Images)The Lakers will give Nash a three-year, $27 million contract. They used the trade exception they received from last year's Lamar Odom deal with the Dallas Mavericks.

"He's ecstatic," said Billy Duffy, Nash's agent. "He gets to be close to his children."

The Suns will get the Lakers' 2013 and '15 first-round draft picks and their 2014 and '15 second-round selections. The Lakers also paid the Suns $3 million to facilitate the trade.
 
PV-PRIDE said:
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--lakers-land-steve-nash-for-draft-picks.html

Steve Nash is headed to the Los Angeles Lakers after the Phoenix Suns agreed to a sign-and-trade deal that will bring them four first-round draft picks.

Steve Nash will get a guaranteed three-year, $27 million contract from the Lakers. (Getty Images)The Lakers will give Nash a three-year, $27 million contract. They used the trade exception they received from last year's Lamar Odom deal with the Dallas Mavericks.

"He's ecstatic," said Billy Duffy, Nash's agent. "He gets to be close to his children."

The Suns will get the Lakers' 2013 and '15 first-round draft picks and their 2014 and '15 second-round selections. The Lakers also paid the Suns $3 million to facilitate the trade.
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I hope this will solve some of the Lakers problems at the PG. Gangster Stern did not block this trade, he must have been sleep on the Job.
 



wahines said:
I hope this will solve some of the Lakers problems at the PG. Gangster Stern did not block this trade, he must have been sleep on the Job.
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That's because the Lakers gave up too much for a 38 year old PG. Two first round picks and two future 2nd round picks. So if Stern really hates the Lakers. He is not bothered by this trade.
 
JR said:
That's because the Lakers gave up too much for a 38 year old PG. Two first round picks and two future 2nd round picks. So if Stern really hates the Lakers. He is not bothered by this trade.
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Nash is good, but I agree, that's way too much for a player his age.
 
wahines said:
I hope this will solve some of the Lakers problems at the PG. Gangster Stern did not block this trade, he must have been sleep on the Job.
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Point guard is an overrated position in the NBA. You don't need a great point guard to win a championship.
 
DAHILL said:
Point guard is an overrated position in the NBA. You don't need a great point guard to win a championship.
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I'm not going to say that the PG position is overrated. A guy with the ability to control the pace of game is still important. I will say that it is tough to win a championship with a team built around the PG if your squad is not accompanied by strong wing players or interior players.

The NBA is starting to evolve into a league where teams don't need dominate post players to win a championship.
 
JR said:
That's because the Lakers gave up too much for a 38 year old PG. Two first round picks and two future 2nd round picks. So if Stern really hates the Lakers. He is not bothered by this trade.
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I guess the Lakers are thinking that they won't be getting any high picks anyway since they won't be in the lottery, plus I am sure they might consider trading Gasol.
 
JR said:
That's because the Lakers gave up too much for a 38 year old PG. Two first round picks and two future 2nd round picks. So if Stern really hates the Lakers. He is not bothered by this trade.
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Those will be late picks so it won't hurt much. Who is the last Lakers draft pick to make an impact?
 
Report: Lakers, Magic to swap bigs

The Lakers and Magic have had talks about a possible deal, and plan to talk further about constructing a trade. No deals are imminent, and the process has remained fluid as teams have begun to inquire with more serious offers for Howard.

Sources say there is one other trade scenario for a significant player that intrigues Magic general manager Rob Hennigan, but that target is unclear. Before the Magic would agree to consummate a trade for Bynum, they would need to know they could sign him to a contract extension, sources said. Bynum is entering the final year of his contract in the 2012-13 season.

What’s more, Bynum wouldn’t nearly be enough to satisfy Hennigan’s desires for a return on Howard. The Lakers would need to send draft picks and absorb long-term money off the Magic’s payroll, sources said.
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Nash is exactly what the Lakers need. The stagnant offense they showed against OKC in clutch moments with their big men just standing around was pathetic. The Lakers had no offensive creativity whatsoever.
Now they have a point guard who can drive for layups, who can set up the pick and roll, who can't set up the big men for easy dunks or short jumpshots or he can set up players for the three. He'll also take some of the pressure off of Kobe (if Kobe will let him) in clutch moments.
The Lakers didn't have to give up anything from the current team, plus they have room to still trade if they want to.
It's a win-win for the Lakers.
 
DAHILL said:
Point guard is an overrated position in the NBA. You don't need a great point guard to win a championship.
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Dahill I don't know an NBA team who has not won a championship without a good point guard.


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JR said:
That's because the Lakers gave up too much for a 38 year old PG. Two first round picks and two future 2nd round picks. So if Stern really hates the Lakers. He is not bothered by this trade.
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If the Suns play their cards right, they will be a contender again by the start of the 2014/15 season. (this new owner is so cheap that everybody knows he will sell off those draft picks for some middle of the road player.)
 



The Founder said:
Dahill I don't know an NBA team who has not won a championship without a good point guard.


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I said a GREAT point guard.... of course if the point guard made it to the NBA they are going to be "good"...

The Heat won with Mario Chalmers playing point guard.... he aint no GREAT point guard. OKC made it to the finals with with Westbrook running the point... he aint no GREAT point guard.
 
DAHILL said:
I said a GREAT point guard.... of course if the point guard made it to the NBA they are going to be "good"...

The Heat won with Mario Chalmers playing point guard.... he aint no GREAT point guard. OKC made it to the finals with with Westbrook running the point... he aint no GREAT point guard.
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I would beg the differ in the lakers case because they aren't as athletic as the two teams you just mention. Case in point (no pun intended) Ramon Sessions.

How you durin?

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DAHILL said:
I said a GREAT point guard.... of course if the point guard made it to the NBA they are going to be "good"...

The Heat won with Mario Chalmers playing point guard.... he aint no GREAT point guard. OKC made it to the finals with with Westbrook running the point... he aint no GREAT point guard.
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Russell Westrbook is not a great PG?
 
kendrick said:
Russell Westrbook is not a great PG?
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Hell no... He is a great scorer.... not a great point guard.... I would even say he is a great 2 guard running point. Even Magic said that one of his Finals performances was the Worst display of point guard he had ever seen in the playoffs.
 
DAHILL said:
Hell no... He is a great scorer.... not a great point guard.... I would even say he is a great 2 guard running point. Even Magic said that one of his Finals performances was the Worst display of point guard he had ever seen in the playoffs.
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I think what Magic Johnson said about Russell Westbrook was unfair and a gross overreaction.

But I will say we have to start redefining some of these positions. LeBron James is listed (according to Basketball Reference) as a forward/guard which is about right. In the Finals, LeBron was essentially playing point power forward the last three games of that series.

The game has evolved -- due to the evolution of the athlete -- where cats don't play certain positions the way they once were played 50 years ago.

Guys are listed as centers but spend more time on the perimeter than on the block. Westbrook, Rose and others are listed as PG, but they can also be volume scorers as well. There are more tweeners than ever across the board.

Hardly anyone plays traditional anything these days.
 
kendrick said:
I think what Magic Johnson said about Russell Westbrook was unfair and a gross overreaction.

But I will say we have to start redefining some of these positions. LeBron James is listed (according to Basketball Reference) as a forward/guard which is about right. In the Finals, LeBron was essentially playing point power forward the last three games of that series.

The game has evolved -- due to the evolution of the athlete -- where cats don't play certain positions the way they once were played 50 years ago.

Guys are listed as centers but spend more time on the perimeter than on the block. Westbrook, Rose and others are listed as PG, but they can also be volume scorers as well. There are more tweeners than ever across the board.

Hardly anyone plays traditional anything these days.
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and thats exactly what Im saying.
 
If this was 2007 Nash teaming with 2007 Kobe, it might would be enough to move the needle. As it is, they've just traded for a PG who can only play about 30 minutes a game and couldn't guard his own shadow 10 years ago, and they still have the worst bench of any would-be contender.
 
jag4life said:
Those will be late picks so it won't hurt much. Who is the last Lakers draft pick to make an impact?
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We can speculate that. But you never know if you can package a late with a player and move up. Then you don't know who slips in the draft or who may be someone that you can coach up to be a good player longer than Nash has left. The 2013 one may not hurt. But the 2015 pick may be one where the Lakers are higher up in the draft. Lower picks can't always be overlooked. Look at Perry Jones III slipping to OKC. That was a steal. Even more so than my boy Sully going to Boston. OKC gets another long athletic Forward. Now if Nash was Kobe's age or slightly younger then I could see giving 2 first and 2 second. But to me, Nash is only worth a first and maybe 2 second round picks. Not 2 first round ones. I assume Kupchak is going to try to move somebody else to recoup a first round pick. Maybe Pau or Bynum gets traded.
 
DAHILL said:
Hell no... He is a great scorer.... not a great point guard.... I would even say he is a great 2 guard running point. Even Magic said that one of his Finals performances was the Worst display of point guard he had ever seen in the playoffs.
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I thought Magic recanted that and apologized for saying that about Westbrook earlier in the Miami series. Saying he now understands that Westbrook is doing exactly what his coach and team needs him to. I could have sworn he took that back after the next game. And if he didn't. No way was that the worst display of a PG in the playoffs I have seen. Been too many who have nutted up during the playoffs to even list. LOL.
 
This is a great move. Nash doesnt play defense, but you cant play worse defense than RamonSessions. Its impossible. But what Nash can do is get the team easy baskets and score. He can shoot the 3 and take some pressure off Kobe. The Lakers only lost to OKC by a few points in games 2, 3, and 4. Sessions was a disaster in those games, turning the ball over and freezing in the moment.

Kobe can now go to the bench and have someone on the floor that can run the offense and score.
 
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