Dante Stallworth pleads guilty to DUI manslaughter


bluedog said:
Clear for what? The prosecution got what they wanted and lets be real, if they could have done more they would have. Why some are acting as if he's getting away with something becasue he's a star...I mean C'mon.
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I don't care if Stallworth was a random guy living down the street in my hood. Stallworth's statement about what happened and his behavior that day appeared as if he could have avoided the accident. That is all I am saying.

I believe the family knew they could get money from Stallworth and that is why he only got 30 days. (Plus, I don't think Stallworth is an NFL star. Known by some fans? Yes, but not like Randy Moss or T.O.) If it had been you or me, we would be in jail a lot longer.
 
kendrick said:
I don't care if Stallworth was a random guy living down the street in my hood. Stallworth's statement about what happened and his behavior that day appeared as if he could have avoided the accident. That is all I am saying.

I believe the family knew they could get money from Stallworth and that is why he only got 30 days. (Plus, I don't think Stallworth is an NFL star. Known by some fans? Yes, but not like Randy Moss or T.O.) If it had been you or me, we would be in jail a lot longer.
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Kendrick tell me you really don't believe what you just said? First you believe the family knew they coould get money from him but you don't believe fans know him as a star.

First of all what does fans knowing him as a star has to do with anything? Secondly they would have been able to get money from him whether they brought him to court and convicted him or not, it's call a civil lawsuit of wrongful death.

Didn't you learn anything from the OJ trial? C'mon brother get off the holier than thou stool, the dude should have been watching where the hell he was going.
 



bluedog said:
Kendrick tell me you really don't believe what you just said? First you believe the family knew they coould get money from him but you don't believe fans know him as a star.

First of all what does fans knowing him as a star has to do with anything? Secondly they would have been able to get money from him whether they brought him to court and convicted him or not, it's call a civil lawsuit of wrongful death.

Didn't you learn anything from the OJ trial? C'mon brother get off the holier than thou stool, the dude should have been watching where the hell he was going.
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I really don't want to play semantics in terms of determining someone's star status. However, a pro athlete does not have to be considered at "star" to be a in great financial situation. I am willingly to bet that the prosecution did some research about Stallworth and even had discussions with Stallworth's lawyers about how he could work with the the family financially before the deal was brokered.

I am well aware of the civil lawsuit process, but you have to consider that the family might not have wanted to go through the litigation process, which can take a few hours or even a few months. It is very emotional and mentally taxing process.

Then they would have to gather witness statements and the whole nine-yards. Not to mention the family would have to pay for the proceedings.

And lastly, sure the guy probably could have been more careful about is surroundings, but Stallworth should have been as well, considering he was DRUNK while operating a vehicle. In this case there are no winners. Only losers.
 
Whatever...bottom line still remain if he wouldn't have walk out into a crowded street full of on coming cars he would have still been alive tipsy or not.

BTW you forgot one other option that may have played out. The prosecutor may have told them if they went to trial they may have loss.
 
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kendrick said:
I really don't want to play semantics in terms of determining someone's star status. However, a pro athlete does not have to be considered at "star" to be a in great financial situation. I am willingly to bet that the prosecution did some research about Stallworth and even had discussions with Stallworth's lawyers about how he could work with the the family financially before the deal was brokered.

I am well aware of the civil lawsuit process, but you have to consider that the family might not have wanted to go through the litigation process, which can take a few hours or even a few months. It is very emotional and mentally taxing process.

Then they would have to gather witness statements and the whole nine-yards. Not to mention the family would have to pay for the proceedings.

And lastly, sure the guy probably could have been more careful about is surroundings, but Stallworth should have been as well, considering he was DRUNK while operating a vehicle. In this case there are no winners. Only losers.
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First, the D.A. is not likely to broker a deal between Stallworth and the family. They won't interfere, but they ain't participating. Second, the family wouldn't pay a dime in the civil suit. This is a contingency fee case. No fee unless I collect. Finally, just because Stallworth was "drunk" doesn't make him guilty of what he was charged with.
 
And about Stallworth flashing his lights, still don't mean he could have avoided hitting the guy. How fast was he going when he flashed the lights and how close to the guy was he when he flashed the lights??? What lane of traffic was he in??? Were other vehicles on either side of Stallworth??? Could he have moved to the next lane at that moment??? Was anyone behind Stallworth??? Did he hit brakes at all??? There are a whole lot of questions that would be asked and gone into ad nauseum. Then you get into what dude was doing. Was he stumbling back and forth??? Was he in one lane when Stallworth saw him and decided to cross into Stallworth's lane at the last second??? This case was not cut and dry by any means.

Can't overlook all that just because Stallworth was drunk.
 
MikeBigg said:
Damn Shame... Mike Vick should have pleaded to "DogSlaughter" and maybe he'd only gotten a week.
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That would never have happen you know how those people feel about them damn dogs:retard:, to them a dog has more vaule than most definetly a black man's life

Robber said:
And about Stallworth flashing his lights, still don't mean he could have avoided hitting the guy. How fast was he going when he flashed the lights and how close to the guy was he when he flashed the lights??? What lane of traffic was he in??? Were other vehicles on either side of Stallworth??? Could he have moved to the next lane at that moment??? Was anyone behind Stallworth??? Did he hit brakes at all??? There are a whole lot of questions that would be asked and gone into ad nauseum. Then you get into what dude was doing. Was he stumbling back and forth??? Was he in one lane when Stallworth saw him and decided to cross into Stallworth's lane at the last second??? This case was not cut and dry by any means.

Can't overlook all that just because Stallworth was drunk.
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I'm with you Robber I was thinking some of the same angles. :nod:
 
Robber said:
Finally, just because Stallworth was "drunk" doesn't make him guilty of what he was charged with.
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but rob, the bottom line facts are
1. Stallworth was drunk.
2. THe man was hit by the car driven by Stallworth
3. The man died.
4. Stallworth was charged with manslaughter.

Heck, even Stallworth, by his plea, is admitting to that. The problem, IMO, is this sentence. And I'm smart enough to know why the family went along with it. We all are smart enough to figure that one out.
They got paid. If Stallworth didnt have the money like he does, no way he would have been sentenced to less than a month for a manslaughter.
 
Robber said:
mh, I'd blame the "victim" if this went to trial. My argument would be it wouldn't have mattered if Stallworth was drunk or not. Dude still woulda gotten hit. It matters that dude ran out onto a busy roadway. He's just as responsible for his own demise as Stallworth is. It's unfortunate that it occurred, no doubt. But that plea he got had everything to do with the family going along. When the family is saying give him the deal, the DA is most likely to go along with it. If they wanted Stallworth's head, he wouldn't have gotten that deal. It's even possible the DA may have thought he couldn't convict Stallworth.
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Thank you!
 
Robber said:
And about Stallworth flashing his lights, still don't mean he could have avoided hitting the guy. How fast was he going when he flashed the lights and how close to the guy was he when he flashed the lights??? What lane of traffic was he in??? Were other vehicles on either side of Stallworth??? Could he have moved to the next lane at that moment??? Was anyone behind Stallworth??? Did he hit brakes at all??? There are a whole lot of questions that would be asked and gone into ad nauseum. Then you get into what dude was doing. Was he stumbling back and forth??? Was he in one lane when Stallworth saw him and decided to cross into Stallworth's lane at the last second??? This case was not cut and dry by any means.

Can't overlook all that just because Stallworth was drunk.
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Thank you!
 
Maybe this will simplify it for some here goes (i doubt it), lets say the pedestrian was tipsy (DUI) NOT (DWI drunk) and he walk on to the busy streets in the walkway having the right of way, Stallworth comes along and run the light as did the pedestrian in the original case and Stallworth hit the pedestrian.

Should Stallworth not be accountable for hitting him because the pedestrain was tipsy?
 
bluedog,
We don't have to create hypothetical situations here. Stallworth pled GUILTY to what he was charged with. GUILTY. He stood in a court of law and said he was GUILTY of manslaughter.
 
mighty hornet said:
bluedog,
We don't have to create hypothetical situations here. Stallworth pled GUILTY to what he was charged with. GUILTY. He stood in a court of law and said he was GUILTY of manslaughter.
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Alot of folks stood in court and pleaded guilty to something that they knew they wasnt guilty of. Go and check the prisons.
 
Blacknbengal said:
Alot of folks stood in court and pleaded guilty to something that they knew they wasnt guilty of. Go and check the prisons.
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I could easily challenge that, but I wont.

at the end of the day and in the eyes of the law, when he pled guilty, he was acknowledging his guilt. He could have fought the charge. He could have blamed the victim. (I guess yall are doing that for him) But he didn't.
He stood there in that courtroom and said he was GUILTY. He said it was him who was driving drunk and caused that man's death.
 



mighty hornet said:
but rob, the bottom line facts are
1. Stallworth was drunk.
2. THe man was hit by the car driven by Stallworth
3. The man died.
4. Stallworth was charged with manslaughter.

Heck, even Stallworth, by his plea, is admitting to that. The problem, IMO, is this sentence. And I'm smart enough to know why the family went along with it. We all are smart enough to figure that one out.
They got paid. If Stallworth didnt have the money like he does, no way he would have been sentenced to less than a month for a manslaughter.
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Dude those facts up there don't necessarily add up to manslaughter, either. I don't dispute those facts. They are what they are. But where was that man when he got hit??? Was he walking along the side of the street minding his own business or was he playing in traffic???

What one overt act can be said that Stallworth did that contributed to that man's death??? Did he lose control of his vehicle??? Did he fall asleep??? Was he swerving??? Oh, I forgot, he was drunk. That's all that needs to be shown. :rolleyes:
 
mighty hornet said:
ok, since it was a busy roadway, did he also get hit by other, sober drivers or did he only get hit by the driver who was drunk?????
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So, now you know who was or wasn't drunk on the road that day??? Deal with the facts and nothing else. That man mighta commited suicide for all we know.
 
mighty hornet said:
bluedog,
We don't have to create hypothetical situations here. Stallworth pled GUILTY to what he was charged with. GUILTY. He stood in a court of law and said he was GUILTY of manslaughter.
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And I guess that feather tap he got had NOTHING to do with it. Just like you know why the family agreed to the deal. You woulda plead guilty for that sentence.
 
I got a question....

Was the dude crossing the HWY drunk? I mean come on, how many people in their right mind even attempt to do that isht?
 
mighty hornet said:
In the eyes of the law, Stallworth was drunk. He didnt deny that he was drunk either. In fact, he admitted that he was.
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If being drunk was the only element needed to prove manslaughter in this case, I'd be on your side. But it ain't. So I ain't. Stallworth essentially put that matter to bed, so he can play out that big azz contract he signed last year with Cleveland.
 
Robber said:
If being drunk was the only element needed to prove manslaughter in this case, I'd be on your side. But it ain't. So I ain't. Stallworth essentially put that matter to bed, so he can play out that big azz contract he signed last year with Cleveland.
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and all I'm saying, regardless of why he pled guilty, at the end of the day, he did. He said he was guilty of causing that man's death. And for that, he was sentenced to 25 days in jail.
 
mighty hornet said:
His car plowing into the man and KILLING him. That not only "contributed" to that man's death, it caused it.
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Ain't that simple dude. Which one was where they were supposed to be. If a man jump into a swamp full of alligators, you can't blame the alligators for eating him. That dude put himself into the path of that car in the middle of the street. His own actions got him killed, to. You can't say, if Stallworth hadn't been drunk the man wouldn't have gotten run over. Even sober, Stallworth still mighta hit that dude. But you can most definitely say, if that man hadn't gone out into that street, he wouldn't have gotten run over by Stallworth.
 
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