PV vs Oklahoma...Women's Opening Round


kendrick said:
So basically what you are saying is that HBCUs are getting untalented college athletes.
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Come on now Kendrick...The athletes at UCONN,Tennesee,MEMPHIS are better than the talent that goes to HBCUs. It's not a slight it's just a fact. If a SWAC school had all the Memphis players (and John Calipari was the coach)that are playing now in the tournament we would be on the map. Kids today..we can't sell them HBCU experience. For some they can't relate to it. It's sad but it's true. Here in Arkansas last year we had this talented female 6'4"guard that won the state championship. Every Big time school was after her. She is starting now for Tennessee Lady Vols. She did not give UAPB a wink.
 
pbla said:
Come on now Kendrick...The athletes at UCONN,Tennesee,MEMPHIS are better than the talent that goes to HBCUs. It's not a slight it's just a fact. If a SWAC school had all the Memphis players (and John Calipari was the coach)that are playing now in the tournament we would be on the map. Kids today..we can't sell them HBCU experience. For some they can't relate to it. It's sad but it's true. Here in Arkansas last year we had this talented female 6'4"guard that won the state championship. Every Big time school was after her. She is starting now for Tennessee Lady Vols. She did not give UAPB a wink.
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why should she give UAPB a wink?.... imagine a recruiting trip to UT and a recruiting trip to UAPB. Imagine playing in front of 500 people each week and playing in front of over 15,000. Imagine first class travel arrangments to riding a bus and staying in a Holiday Inn. When you compare apples to oranges, its not a hard decision to make. Every UT game is on TV... how many times would she be on TV at PB (or any other SWAC school)
 



kendrick said:
Not reading too much into what you are saying because I know what you are saying. Don't sugarcoat it. This issue comes up in when talking about basketball and football. Fans and alums whine about not getting the blue chip athletes because they believe the current athletes are not good enough.

It is OK to say it. Blue chip or Red chip. Don't matter. Just say, "Hey, the athletes at HBCUs are not good enough and we want better ones."
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Is there a problem with saying that? The rest of the schools don't have a problem with saying it. Thats why they go after the players they do. I thought the point was to have the best players you can on your team.

I also believe coaching and facilities make a difference as well.
 
DAHILL said:
why should she give UAPB a wink?.... imagine a recruiting trip to UT and a recruiting trip to UAPB. Imagine playing in front of 500 people each week and playing in front of over 15,000. Imagine first class travel arrangments to riding a bus and staying in a Holiday Inn. When you compare apples to oranges, its not a hard decision to make. Every UT game is on TV... how many times would she be on TV at PB (or any other SWAC school)
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How many UT games would be on TV if those players were at PB?
 
pbla said:
Come on now Kendrick...The athletes at UCONN,Tennesee,MEMPHIS are better than the talent that goes to HBCUs. It's not a slight it's just a fact. If a SWAC school had all the Memphis players (and John Calipari was the coach)that are playing now in the tournament we would be on the map. Kids today..we can't sell them HBCU experience. For some they can't relate to it. It's sad but it's true. Here in Arkansas last year we had this talented female 6'4"guard that won the state championship. Every Big time school was after her. She is starting now for Tennessee Lady Vols. She did not give UAPB a wink.
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And do you blame her? I mean, go to Tennessee and play for one of the greatest coaches in the history of organized basketball in Pat Summitt or play at Arkansas Pine-Bluff ? (nice mall by the way)

Some of my co-workers in newsroom when to Northern Illinois University in Dekalb a MAC conference affliate (I got accepted there my senior year of high school, but chose not to go) and they were talking about how come their school fails to get those same athletes HBCUs crave. I was like when those Big Ten schools/ Notre Dame are knocking at their door, they are not playing for the Huskies.

They are playing a Illinois, Purdue, Michigan and Ohio State.

It is same with the great prep athletes in Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas or Alabama. Those kids are playing in the SEC or Big 12.

I think we as grads of small schools have to accept that notion.
 
DAHILL said:
why should she give UAPB a wink?.... imagine a recruiting trip to UT and a recruiting trip to UAPB. Imagine playing in front of 500 people each week and playing in front of over 15,000. Imagine first class travel arrangments to riding a bus and staying in a Holiday Inn. When you compare apples to oranges, its not a hard decision to make. Every UT game is on TV... how many times would she be on TV at PB (or any other SWAC school)
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I ain't sayin she should go to UAPB...mr.jetengine. lol. I'm making the point that you are making. :lol: Read my post again sailor about we can't sell the HBCU experience to our kids today :lol: Anyway those points are you making are the reasons why our schools are where they are now. Unless we make a financial commitment to the athletic programs then we will always be on the bottom.
 
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kendrick said:
And do you blame her? I mean, go to Tennessee and play for one of the greatest coaches in the history of organized basketball in Pat Summitt or play at Arkansas Pine-Bluff ? (nice mall by the way)

Some of my co-workers in newsroom when to Northern Illinois University in Dekalb a MAC conference affliate (I got accepted there my senior year of high school, but chose not to go) and they were talking about how come their school fails to get those same athletes HBCUs crave. I was like when those Big Ten schools/ Notre Dame are knocking at their door, they are not playing for the Huskies.

They are playing a Illinois, Purdue, Michigan and Ohio State.

It is same with the great prep athletes in Mississippi, Louisiana, Texas or Alabama. Those kids are playing in the SEC or Big 12.

I think we as grads of small schools have to accept that notion.
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True. So you do agree that the athletes at the big schools are better than our athletes at the HBCU's?
 
Group,

Went to the game. Drove 5 hrs from KC, MO. Besides about 20 people asking me where Prairie View was located, it was an enjoyable experience.

Had great seats. Smith (#1) going out really hurt our chances to stay competitive. This definitely was an improvement over 2 years ago when we played North Carolina.

KCPVPanther.
 
like Mum said......we sell ourselves as blacks out in the world but you see hispanics take over an area and make the most of it, asians, etc...our hoods tend to dissappear as we rather run to spend somewhere else

Without "talent"...Summitt is an average coach..this great stuff is overrated

if the best talent jumped ship...TV jumps with them.....

to prove my point, they tell me (pictures also prove it) that whites knew the better talent was at HBCUs in the 50s and 60s....people said at Grambling you had to get to the games early as whites would take up all the seats because they wanted to see Willis Reed, etc.

so imagine if Shaq or someone is at TSU along with a two other all-stars, you don't think people will follow to see good talent?
 
KCPVPanther said:
This definitely was an improvement over 2 years ago when we played North Carolina.

KCPVPanther.
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Yep......cut it in half......

Coach Cooper-Dyke said:
"We were wide-eyed two years ago (in the 2007 NCAA tournament), when we lost by 60 points to North Carolina," said the fourth-year Prairie View coach, whose club returns four starters next season. "This year we competed for probably 25 minutes, and then we got our heads down.

"Overall," the coach added, "I'm real proud of my team and what we accomplished this season."
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the band fan said:
like Mum said......we sell ourselves as blacks out in the world but you see hispanics take over an area and make the most of it, asians, etc...our hoods tend to dissappear as we rather run to spend somewhere else

Without "talent"...Summitt is an average coach..this great stuff is overrated

if the best talent jumped ship...TV jumps with them.....

to prove my point, they tell me (pictures also prove it) that whites knew the better talent was at HBCUs in the 50s and 60s....people said at Grambling you had to get to the games early as whites would take up all the seats because they wanted to see Willis Reed, etc.

so imagine if Shaq or someone is at TSU along with a two other all-stars, you don't think people will follow to see good talent?
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So an 18 year old kid who chooses to attend UCLA over Jackson State is a sellout?

College sports is not that important to me where I would think like that.

I'm just happy young black men and women have the opportunity to get an education and play sports, man. There are a lot worse decisions kids can make than not going to a black school.

With that said, I think HBCUs have produced a long line of influential politicans, educators, doctors, journalists, law enforcement officials and athletes in this country.

If that kid is at a JUCO or a D2 or D3 school and getting good grades and playing ball and trying to make something of his or her self, that is all that matters.

Kids choose universities for different reasons that are beyond our control. We have to respect the decisions.

If a kid wants to get an education and play sports at an HBCU, fine. I am glad for all the young people that selected the HBCU experience. If not, then good luck to them and I wish them all the best.

All this black athletes should go to black schools angst has gotta stop. Do I wish HBCUs would be more competitve on the field? Yes, but that is not the ultimate goal of the college experience.

I think that is lost on you.
 
The first thing we need to do to get better players is stop selling ourselves as HBCUs and sell ourselves as a TRUE D1 program. We got to understand that most of the kids that watch SEC and Big 12 games see the same things as they see when they watch the SWAC MEAC, BLACK FOLKS. With them seeing so many blacks folks reping those programs Texas seems like a PV with lots of white fans.
2nd we got to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and stop accepting and making excusses for not being good. While we talking about that girl didnt give PB a wink im willing to beat that PB didnt wink either.. its not a hidden fact, most of our coaches do a half azz job of recruiting.
3rd our coaches need to catch up with the game. stop buying so much gear and going to dumb SWAC meetings in New orleans hosted at the W. use that money to update and learn new technologys.. This will give us better play which will lead to better OOC records, which will help land better talent..
im tired of hearing the poo us B.S.
 



I've been speaking on this topic for a while, it's good to see i'm not the only one that feels this way! Carry On!:lol:
 
Let me ask this question to every disgrunted HBCU sports fan who is fed up with programs lagging behind BCS conferences in sports.

How is HBCUs not winning national championships or not going to the NCAA Tournament or being placed in the play-in game or not attracting blue chip recruits stopping kids from attending HBCUs at all to be athletes or just major in sociology?

Some HBCUs have been around for more than 100 years, and I believe for the most part kids still apply to the insitutions to major in education or psychology and others sign letters of intent to play sports.

I don't see where all the anger is coming from if HBCUs are still educating kids.
 
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bandfan keeps talkin all this "sell ourself out" bs.... knowing that if Texas, Texas A&M, LSU called him for an SID job, he would be out of Grambling the next day.
 
DAHILL said:
bandfan keeps talkin all this "sell ourself out" bs.... knowing that if Texas, Texas A&M, LSU called him for an SID job, he would be out of Grambling the next day.
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UR late HILL. lol Applying that logic, PV must be univ of texas/aTm/lsu... :emlaugh:
 
ASU said:
Oklahoma 76
PV 47
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Huge diparity in funding, facilities :read:, etc. Complete opposite ends of the spectrum and I'm sure it showed.

Good season Lady Panthers and much congrats, we're very proud of you. :bowdown: Now... it's time to hit the classroom/weightroom. Smarter, bigger, faster, stronger PV! :read::read::read::read::read::read::read::read::read:

(I'm not kidding :read: )
 
theSWACdecider said:
From what i heard, it wasn't by choice :emlaugh:! :smash:
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It doesn't matter to those of us on this side of the Sabine river decider and it shouldn't matter to you either. But, I understand your "type" of mentality allows you to be shit-brained like that. :emlaugh: :smash:

What type of inner "man-dom" would cause your pea sized brain to make such an insipid accusation/statement?

:retard:
 
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