Study: Sugar Bowl pumps more than $200M into city, state


Da_Sperm said:
I went to the BC twice under the age of 25 and I bet I spent a total of $100 combined each time. The first time I stayed in the dorms with my cousin at UNO and we bought tickets to the game and BOTB off the street for little of nothing. Our night included hanging on Canal and Bourbon for FREE.

The 2nd time was more of the same except me and my buddy split a room for the weekend. We still ate pizza and hung out for FREE most of the weekend.

I dont' know if the SB has as many free-loaders like me.

By the same token, you have families that save money the entire year for this event and will drop a thousand or more. Hell, I am not but one person and spent over a thousand last year. And, I have family members and friends from both Gram & S.U. that spend a hell of a lot more than me.
 
JROCK said:
By the same token, you have families that save money the entire year for this event and will drop a thousand or more. Hell, I am not but one person and spent over a thousand last year. And, I have family members and friends from both Gram & S.U. that spend a hell of a lot more than me.

J, that's just it, a case like you pointed out is the exception, and not the norm. More times than not, the scenario is like that in which Sperm pointed out, but instead of staying in dorms, kids stay with family, and friends that are from NO, that attend SU or GSU, or have attended.

Families are only going to do so much though (if they have kids), they can't really go into the FQ without being in harms way, they rarely go to the zoo, or aquarium, and they're certainly not taking the kids to the parties.

Money is being spent at the Classic, but it's on different scale compared to the Sugar Bowl. Now a more feasible comparison would be with the upstart New Orleans Bowl. The BC thrawfs that in comparison, but again it's still in it's infant stage. Remember we just not to long ago celebrated 25 years of the BC, the Sugar Bowl has been around a lot longer, with more fanfare, especially if the national championship is on the line.

I will say that I don't think the merchants in New Orleans do enough to attract BC dollars, but truth be told, those kids just don't have the money to fork over like that. The ones in school are more than likely broke, but they've spent their money before arriving to New Orleans. Either on new clothes, hair do's, and cuts, their share of the rental car, game tickets, their share of the hotel. Very few of them have a lot of money left over for the extra curriculars. The money they bring is for fast food, their share of liquor, and for 2 nights of parties.

The local kids aren't spending anything. The money they spend is on the BOTB, and the game if they go. Their money goes to the schools, and the Superdome, and not the city. Well, if you count RTA, some of their money is going to city bwo bus fare if they don't have a ride.

The older folk are out, and about if they know the city, but they're not going to the city's main attraction (The French Quarter), because of how rowdy the crowd has become. You find more, and more of them are getting something to eat at the eating booth's the vendors have set up, or at the hotel they're staying in, or at the game. But mostly if you find them out, they're at the casino.

That Sugar Bowl crowd (unless LSU is playing), doesn't have that same luxury, it's foreign territory, it's a new experience, they're not the same crowd that's at the classic every year. You can pretty much bet that 85% (if that low) of the BC crowd isn't making their first trip, or even their 2nd trip.

That SB crowd is filling the restaurants, the bars, they're club hopping, the strip clubs, they literally turn the French Quarter into their own little Mardi Gras. They party from the time they get there, until the time they leave, and they're in the city longer than 2 nights, so that alone means they're going to spend more money.

When they add up the doe being spent in the city, the numbers the French Quarter merchants submit for the SB, are no where close to what they submit at Classic time. Then when you add on cab fare's, streetcar rides, horse carriage rides, and city tours they take while there, our dollars don't compete. That's what they're gauging it on, not just hotels, and restaurants. Not to mention, the money the airport submits from their souvenier shops. How many of us do you see in the airport shops after the classic? Not many huh?

We spend bruh, but not at the places they're dropping doe. If you take the 5-6 black clubs New Orleans has that are filled at Classic time, compared to the numerous clubs the French Quarter is filled with during SB time, it's not as close as you think.

NICE
 

During my college years I stayed in the Sheraton on canal every year. The rooms are $188 plus tax and parking is $40 everytime you move your car. When I visted other hotels as I always do they were mostly full of these so call broke kids. Everyone that went to school with me at Southern usually stayed in one of those hotels. You have not truly experienced the BC until you have stayed downtown. Now as I recall back then if you didn't have your rooms months in advance you were not going to get one. Now a days there are more hotels downtown so it not as bad as it use to be. I remember everyone would save money all year for this weekend. I don't know where you old folks be at but the places I be at money is being spent everywhere. This year I stayed in the downtown Marriott. The bar was packed the whole weekend. Had to wait 30 minutes before someone moved so I could get a drink after the game. I know I spent atleast $800 this year at the BC.
 
D-NICE said:
J, that's just it, a case like you pointed out is the exception, and not the norm. More times than not, the scenario is like that in which Sperm pointed out, but instead of staying in dorms, kids stay with family, and friends that are from NO, that attend SU or GSU, or have attended.

Families are only going to do so much though (if they have kids), they can't really go into the FQ without being in harms way, they rarely go to the zoo, or aquarium, and they're certainly not taking the kids to the parties.

Money is being spent at the Classic, but it's on different scale compared to the Sugar Bowl. Now a more feasible comparison would be with the upstart New Orleans Bowl. The BC thrawfs that in comparison, but again it's still in it's infant stage. Remember we just not to long ago celebrated 25 years of the BC, the Sugar Bowl has been around a lot longer, with more fanfare, especially if the national championship is on the line.

I will say that I don't think the merchants in New Orleans do enough to attract BC dollars, but truth be told, those kids just don't have the money to fork over like that. The ones in school are more than likely broke, but they've spent their money before arriving to New Orleans. Either on new clothes, hair do's, and cuts, their share of the rental car, game tickets, their share of the hotel. Very few of them have a lot of money left over for the extra curriculars. The money they bring is for fast food, their share of liquor, and for 2 nights of parties.

The local kids aren't spending anything. The money they spend is on the BOTB, and the game if they go. Their money goes to the schools, and the Superdome, and not the city. Well, if you count RTA, some of their money is going to city bwo bus fare if they don't have a ride.

The older folk are out, and about if they know the city, but they're not going to the city's main attraction (The French Quarter), because of how rowdy the crowd has become. You find more, and more of them are getting something to eat at the eating booth's the vendors have set up, or at the hotel they're staying in, or at the game. But mostly if you find them out, they're at the casino.

That Sugar Bowl crowd (unless LSU is playing), doesn't have that same luxury, it's foreign territory, it's a new experience, they're not the same crowd that's at the classic every year. You can pretty much bet that 85% (if that low) of the BC crowd isn't making their first trip, or even their 2nd trip.

That SB crowd is filling the restaurants, the bars, they're club hopping, the strip clubs, they literally turn the French Quarter into their own little Mardi Gras. They party from the time they get there, until the time they leave, and they're in the city longer than 2 nights, so that alone means they're going to spend more money.

When they add up the doe being spent in the city, the numbers the French Quarter merchants submit for the SB, are no where close to what they submit at Classic time. Then when you add on cab fare's, streetcar rides, horse carriage rides, and city tours they take while there, our dollars don't compete. That's what they're gauging it on, not just hotels, and restaurants. Not to mention, the money the airport submits from their souvenier shops. How many of us do you see in the airport shops after the classic? Not many huh?

We spend bruh, but not at the places they're dropping doe. If you take the 5-6 black clubs New Orleans has that are filled at Classic time, compared to the numerous clubs the French Quarter is filled with during SB time, it's not as close as you think.

NICE

I don't know where you are getting this but not ONCE did I ever compare the SB to the BC. What I did state is that black folks are spending money. And yes many are spending big bucks. To think otherwise is pure stupidity. The age of any other event is inconsequential. I think a lot of you all are reading the bias N.O. media perspective about the BC and repeating that stupidity. The Bayou Classic has a multi-million dollar impact on New Orleans economy during Thanksgiving weekend which is well documented as being an abysmal weekend prior to the BC becoming a fixture. To sterotype 300,000 people is even more ludacris. If anybody thinks that black folks are not paying big bucks for hotels, rental cars, fine restaurant, airline tickets, souveniers, clothe, gas and entertainment in addition to the game then I can't help you. But I can guarantee you that those ascertions are wrong. I think some of you all are grossly under estimating the caliber of quite a few people that frequent this event.
 
SUjagTILLiDIE said:
During my college years I stayed in the Sheraton on canal every year. The rooms are $188 plus tax and parking is $40 everytime you move your car. When I visted other hotels as I always do they were mostly full of these so call broke kids. Everyone that went to school with me at Southern usually stayed in one of those hotels. You have not truly experienced the BC until you have stayed downtown. Now as I recall back then if you didn't have your rooms months in advance you were not going to get one. Now a days there are more hotels downtown so it not as bad as it use to be. I remember everyone would save money all year for this weekend. I don't know where you old folks be at but the places I be at money is being spent everywhere. This year I stayed in the downtown Marriott. The bar was packed the whole weekend. Had to wait 30 minutes before someone moved so I could get a drink after the game. I know I spent atleast $800 this year at the BC.

BC fans are in town for 2 days. The SB crowd is there for 3 to 5 days leading up to the game.

I too have stayed in N.O. during the classic and paid similar prices as you. But after that, me and my buddies were broke and we could not afford to eat lunch and dinner at NOLA's and other high end restaurants like the SB crowd is doing.
 
There is money being spent I would say at the BC as well as the SB. I'm sure the hotels are just as packed. The difference is how/where the money is being spent and who is spending.

If the Bayou Classic was moved from NO to San Antonio (a random city that I chose), would it have the same financial impact on San Antonio as if the Sugar Bowl was moved from NO to San Antonio (giving each event keep its same weekends)?

I know it wouldn't be a Bayou Classic if it wasn't held in the Bayou, but overlook that.
 
Da_Sperm said:
If the Bayou Classic was moved from NO to San Antonio (a random city that I chose), would it have the same financial impact on San Antonio as if the Sugar Bowl was moved from NO to San Antonio (giving each event keep its same weekends)?

With all due respect your statement is inconsequential. The City of New Orleans in particular and the state of Louisiana will not let that happen. Of course there will be political postering from both universities as well as city and state leaders. In the final analysis an amicable resolution will be worked out. The city of New Orleans which is ran by "us" will not allow this financial impetus/bonanza leave.
 
Rock, I don't have to believe the media in New Orleans, as a matter of fact I rarely read anything concerning the classic in the papers, because it's usually bad news, however growing up there, I've seen with my own eyes. Having family, and friends that work in the restaurants, and hotels, that tell me what they know I don't have to rely on media clippings, or the local news bruh. I've seen from both sides of the fence on more than 10 occasions. I also see the difference in Sugar Bowl crowds when LSU is participating, and when they're not, from a business stand point, I understand why the COC doesn't care for LSU playing in the game.

Furthermore, I never said that we don't spend. So where is the stereotyping? It's just not in SB numbers. The topic was about Sugar Bowl spending, and it wasn't until the BC spending was bought in as "matter of fact" type of thing, that I chimed in. Obviously if you have 300,000 people in one place if all of them spend anything the city is going to make money.

SUJTID, notice I said "THIER SHARE OF THE HOTEL COST", bruh if you think that because you may have paid $180+ a night by youself is normal, then I don't know what New Orleans you go to. The majority of those rooms have about 6 people in them, some way more than that. So it's not like one person is every room, paying that amount. Sure there are some, but the majority if it's college students are not even 2 to a room. Exceptions but not the norm.

Oh, and even though my parents, and family still live in New Orleans, I stay in downtown hotels for the weekend of the Classic starting Thanksgiving night, last year was my first time in 10 years that I didn't.

As Bg Jag pointed out, if we would've moved that game the city would've moved on. The landscape of business has changed since the BC's inception, and what was once a slow weekend, is no more. Do I think they'll get BC money? No. But they would surely fill that weekend. With the BC threatening to leave at the end of every contract, you ever wonder why the NO Bowl just popped up 2 weeks after the classic is played? The second that game gets to where they want it to be, you watch what happens if they threaten to take the BC away.

NICE
 
True, I know this.

My point was simply, move both games to another location. The SB would still have the same turnout and the same impact on another city. The BC would have a far less impact mainly because a bigger % of BC fans are located in or near the city of NO.
 
D-NICE said:
The second that game gets to where they want it to be, you watch what happens if they threaten to take the BC away.

NICE

Dude,

That is nothing but a "pipe dream." :lol: Poor like New Orleans is, that ain't letting jack go without a fight.
 
Can I ask a question: Why would the city of New Orleans or the state of Louisiana play with the numbers concerning the BC and the SB?

I've never claimed to be a economics major, so maybe I'm missing the obvious point here, but what would they have to gain by deflating the BC numbers and inflating the SB's?
 
Fiyah said:
How many of those people that are jamming Bourbon & Canal are spending serious cash money? Most of them are just hanging out trying to see the scenery.

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JROCK said:
Dude,

That is nothing but a "pipe dream." :lol: Poor like New Orleans is, that ain't letting jack go without a fight.

I'm not saying they're going to let the BC go without a fight, but at the same token, they have seen the threats, and are making back up plans if the powers that be do decide to move the game.

I know New Orleans politicians, so keep thinking it's a pipe dream. That game is not there by coincidence.

NICE
 
D-NICE said:
I'm not saying they're going to let the BC go without a fight, but at the same token, they have seen the threats, and are making back up plans if the powers that be do decide to move the game.

I know New Orleans politicians, so keep thinking it's a pipe dream. That game is not there by coincidence.

NICE

I know them also. And I guarantee you that your paranoia is unwarranted.
 
No paranoia here my friend. Just seeing it for what it is. Beleive me when I tell you, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

NICE
 

D-NICE said:
No paranoia here my friend. Just seeing it for what it is. Beleive me when I tell you, I'm not the only one who feels this way.

NICE

I will agree to disagree with you on this one (it's all good though)....Peace :tup:
 
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