NFL DRAFT

[Mr. SWAC]

Seven (7) picks left. Houston and New Orleans included. I would say these are Bruce Eugene's best shots. Still..... No Marcus Vick taken.

 

[DAHILL]

Now you know that's not true. Didn't T. Jackson and Jason Hatcher go in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, respectively? And Minnesota traded up a lot to pick Jackson in the 2nd round. Bruce will land somewhere.

he actually didnt mean none... but very few.... I noticed the same thing.... I would say 98% of this draft is D1A players.

 

[Mr. SWAC]

Name the D1AA players who legitimately got "shut out" of the draft? I can't name any, because I guess I'm just not that familiar w/who they are. There were more D1AA players drafted than you think. I don't think that statement is true one bit. His example was of V Tech players who got drafted, but not included in that list of VT players is Marcus Vick. It ain't got nothing to do with the NFL purposely not drafting D1AA players this year. What was just proved is that if you are a liability your stock will fall. Did some people get overlooked? Yes, but trust... like I said, these players we will all be hearing about signing free agent deals. Probably like in the next hour.

 

[bluedog]

Well this is really a far cry from #10 in the first round and a disappointing showing for a heisman candidate.

 

[Suge]

The NFL has made a concerted effort not to Draft players from outside of div.1-A. Look at the schools and where these players came from, good example VaTech had 7 players drafted not all were even starters.:vomit:

This is not true, the league picks talent, and evaluating talent has alot to do with the caliber of opponent that you play each week. And being honest, most of the talent, especially when you go away from WR and Corners.....is in the big conferences.

And of all the Tech players drafted...which one was not a starter? Of all the names I saw, all were starters.

 

[jag4life]

OL and DL is where the biggest differences in talent are....and most teams will want to build on the lines first unless they have a big need at QB.

 

[OnlySU]

Well this is really a far cry from #10 in the first round and a disappointing showing for a heisman candidate.

So is the draft over ?? What round did he go ???
See i never watch the nfl draft...

 

[wahines]

It is a shame that Eugene did not get drafted. Scoring a 41 on the Wonderlink Test and has talent to make all of the throws that the NFL require an NFL QB to make. It is awful that Eugene has to make the NFL through the Free Agent route. :shame:

 

[jag4life]

Bruce will be alright. He will just have to show em in training camp.

 

[Robber]

Props to T. Jackson and Hatcher. Hatcher damn sho better bring it. Not every man gets a chance to wear that STAR. So hatch, get yourself fitted for the steel horse, baby. That's what we ride. And we're wanted, DEAD OR ALIVE!!!

 

[ravel74]

Go get'em TJ... I just cant stand that espn radio keep saying ARKANSAS transfer, they even interviewed Matt Jones about Jackson. I know he will always mention bama state in every interview that he does himself though.:topic: The swac better get some pro set offenses real quick if we eveer want these player to get a chance on the next level.

 

[Suge]

What is wrong with saying Arkansas transfer...I mean that's what he was. They do it with all transfer players when go to 1-AA schools. They kept mentioning that the guy from FL that transferred(Ingle Martin?) was a UF product.

I just don't see the issue....

 

[Bartram]

Re: Tavarius Jackson (2nd Round)

Well round five and six are gone. Looks like if bruce is going to make it it'll be the last pick, probably one spot behind the crackhead. A far cry from #10 in the first round as the experts predicted.

Wow. Figured Bruce and Darryl Hackney(UAB), being in the mold of a Byron Leftwitch, would have gone at least in the 3rd or 4th round. will see what happens as undrafted free agents.

 

[ravel74]

What is wrong with saying Arkansas transfer...I mean that's what he was. They do it with all transfer players when go to 1-AA schools. They kept mentioning that the guy from FL that transferred(Ingle Martin?) was a UF product.

I just don't see the issue....

No issue I just would like to see Bama State get their props for producing a good quarterback. Interview his coach to get insight on him.

 

[HORNETSWARM]

Maybe if Bruce shedded some of that weight it could have helped him. Playing Concordia college certainly didn't help his stock while trying to pile on statistics. Then again, the NFL was probably scared of all those touchdowns Bruce produced. You know that the NFL has to maintain some of their own stats for history sake.

 

[GSUperTiger]

Just finished listening to WWL of the Saints draft status, and the Saints have signed Bruce Eugene.

Lead us home Bruce!

 

[bluedog]

We all know what happens to home town QB's in the Saints camp. Well atleast he still gets to eat good.

 

[GSUperTiger]

We all know what happens to home town QB's in the Saints camp. Well atleast he still gets to eat good.

We all know about Southern University QBs too, that is, they are not LEAGUE material.

I am off to Dallas..congrats to the players for reppin' the SWAC.

 

[bluedog]

We all know about Southern University QBs too, that is, they are not LEAGUE material.

I am off to Dallas..congrats to the players for reppin' the SWAC.

So what SU QB that was suppose to be picked in the top ten of the first round and didn't get drafted are you referring to?

 

[MikeBigg]

It is a shame that Eugene did not get drafted. Scoring a 41 on the Wonderlink Test and has talent to make all of the throws that the NFL require an NFL QB to make. It is awful that Eugene has to make the NFL through the Free Agent route. :shame:

True...but Bruce will be alright. I think that the weight issue carried (no pun intended) a lot of weight with the NFL personnel. I commend him for losing the weight, but If I was a NFL scout and being objective (removing my love for Grambling and HBCU players) I would be reluctant to recommend him for fear that the weight loss is temporary.

This "snub" might be a blessing in disquise... but dayum New Orleans. I hope the homecooking and restaurants don't be to much of a temptation. Go Bruce...I'm rooting for ya Bruh!

 

[MikeBigg]

Maybe if Bruce shedded some of that weight it could have helped him. Playing Concordia college certainly didn't help his stock while trying to pile on statistics. Then again, the NFL was probably scared of all those touchdowns Bruce produced. You know that the NFL has to maintain some of their own stats for history sake.

I don't think the Concordia game hurt him...I think the weight issue did. They couldn't question level of competition because TJ played the same teams... Hoping all the guys do well in the NFL camps and make the rosters.

 

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

This is for all of you dummys that says the SWAC/HBCU's has no talent or can't compete with the other teams in I-aa. These are the I-aa players that has been drafted since 2000 in the first 3 rounds.

Highest recent picks:
Year Round Pick # Overall Team Athlete Pos. School
2000 1 21 21 Kansas City Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State
2000 1 23 23 Carolina Rashard Anderson CB Jackson State
2003 2 7 39 Jacksonville Rashean Mathis DB Bethune Cookman
2005 2 9 41 Tennessee Michael Roos OL Eastern Washington
2005 2 18 50 St. Louis Ronald Bartell CB Howard
2005 2 19 51 Green Bay Nick Collins FS Bethune-Cookman
2000 2 29 60 Jacksonville Brad Meester C Northern Iowa
2005 2 29 61 San Diego Vincent Jackson WR Northern Colorado
2000 3 3 65 San Francisco Giovanni Carmazzi QB Hofstra
2006 3 5 69 St. Louis Paul McQuistan G Weber State
2004 3 7 70 Green Bay Joey Thomas CB Montana State
2006 3 7 71 Philadelphia Chris Gocong DE Cal Poly
2002 3 9 74 Indianapolis Joseph Jefferson CB Western Kentucky
2004 3 10 73 Detroit Keith Smith CB McNeese State
2002 3 13 78 NY Giants Jeff Hatch OT Pennsylvania
2001 3 16 78 NY Giants William Peterson CB Western Illinois
2003 3 16 80 San Diego Courtney Van Buren OT Arkansas-Pine Bluff
2002 3 16 81 Arizona Josh McCown QB Sam Houston State
2000 3 23 85 Kansas City Greg Wesley SS Arkansas-Pine Bluff
2006 3 23 87 Baltimore David Pittman CB Northwestern State
2002 3 26 91 Philadelphia Brian Westbrook RB Villanova
2005 3 27 90 Atlanta Jordan Beck ILB Cal Poly
2003 3 27 91 NY Giants Vishante Shiancoe TE Morgan State
2006 3 28 92 Dallas Jason Hatcher DE Grambling

 

[Mr. SWAC]

It ain't got nothing to do with the NFL purposely not drafting D1AA players this year. What was just proved is that if you are a liability your stock will fall. Did some people get overlooked? Yes, but trust... like I said, these players we will all be hearing about signing free agent deals. Probably like in the next hour.

See...

 

[SUjagTILLiDIE]

Even more evidence.
http://i-aa.org/article.asp?articleid=43586
i-AA NFL Draftees


I-AA.org


Round Pick # Overall Team Athlete Pos. School
2006 Draft 16 student-athletes
2 32 64 Minnesota Tarvaris Jackson QB Alabama State
3 5 69 St. Louis Paul McQuistan G Weber State
3 7 71 Philadelphia Chris Gocong DE Cal Poly
3 23 87 Baltimore David Pittman CB Northwestern State
3 28 92 Dallas Jason Hatcher DE Grambling
4 34 131 Pittsburgh Willie Colon G Hofstra
5 15 148 Green Bay Ingle Martin QB Furman
5 28 160 Jacksonville Brent Hawkins DE Illinois State
6 4 173 Washington Reed Doughty SS Northern Colorado
6 7 176 Oakland Kevin Boothe OT Cornell
6 38 207 Indianapolis Antoine Bethea FS Howard
7 3 211 Dallas Pat McQuistan OT Weber State
7 4 212 Miami Fred Evans DT Texas State
7 7 215 Tennessee Cortland Finnegan FS Samford
7 44 252 New Orleans Marques Colston TE Hofstra
7 47 255 Oakland Kevin McMahan WR Maine

2005 Draft 17 student-athletes
2 9 41 Tennessee Michael Roos OL Eastern Washington
2 18 50 St. Louis Ronald Bartell CB Howard
2 19 51 Green Bay Nick Collins FS Bethune-Cookman
2 29 61 San Diego Vincent Jackson WR Northern Colorado
3 27 90 Atlanta Jordan Beck ILB Cal Poly
4 9 110 N.Y. Giants Brandon Jacobs RB Southern Illinois
4 13 114 Houston Jerome Mathis WR Hampton
5 2 138 Kansas City Boomer Grigsby ILB Illinois State
5 7 143 Green Bay Junius Coston C North Carolina A&T
5 22 158 Baltimore Justin Green RB Montana
5 27 163 Atlanta Frank Omiyale OT Tennessee Tech
5 29 165 Indianapolis Robert Hunt C North Dakota State
7 8 222 Washington Nehemiah Broughton FB The Citadel
7 13 227 Houston Kenneth Pettway OLB Grambling State
7 25 239 Denver Paul Ernster P Northern Arizona
7 31 245 Green Bay Kurt Campbell CB Albany
7 36 250 St. Louis Ryan Fitzpatrick QB Harvard

2004 Draft 15 student-athletes
3 7 70 Green Bay Joey Thomas CB Montana State
3 10 73 Detroit Keith Smith CB McNeese State
4 30 126 Kansas City Jared Allen DE Idaho State
5 18 150 Jacksonville Chris Thompson CB Nicholls State
6 1 166 Oakland Shawn Johnson DE Delaware
6 13 178 NY Jets Marko Cavka OT Sacramento State
6 16 181 Tampa Bay Nate Lawrie TE Yale
6 20 185 Philadelphia Andrew Hall QB Delaware
6 34 199 Baltimore Clarence Moore WR Northern Arizona
7 6 207 Buffalo Dylan McFarland OT Montana
7 27 228 Tampa Bay Casey Cramer TE Dartmouth
7 37 238 St. Louis Larry Turner OG Eastern Kentucky
7 38 239 Tennessee Eugene Amano C SE Missouri State
7 51 252 Tampa Bay Lenny Williams CB Southern
7 52 253 NY Giants Isaac Hilton DE Hampton

2003 Draft 14 student-athletes
2 7 39 Jacksonville Rashean Mathis DB Bethune Cookman
3 16 80 San Diego Courtney Van Buren OT Arkansas-Pine Bluff
3 27 91 NY Giants Vishante Shiancoe TE Morgan State
4 14 111 Buffalo Terrence McGee DB Northwestern State
4 21 118 Cincinnati Jeremi Johnson FB Western Kentucky
5 3 138 Indianapolis Robert Mathis DE Alabama A&M
5 13 148 St. Louis Dan Curley TE Eastern Washington
5 14 149 San Diego Mike Scifres P Western Illinois
6 6 179 Jacksonville David Young S Georgia Southern
6 7 180 Minnesota Eddie Johnson P Idaho State
6 13 186 Dallas Zuriel Smith WR Hampton
6 20 193 Jacksonville Marques Ogden OT Howard
6 26 199 NY Giants Willie Ponder WR Southeast Missouri
6 40 213 Miami Yeremiah Bell DB Eastern Kentucky

2002 Draft 19 student-athletes
3 9 74 Indianapolis Joseph Jefferson CB Western Kentucky
3 13 78 NY Giants Jeff Hatch OT Pennsylvania
3 16 81 Arizona Josh McCown QB Sam Houston State
3 26 91 Philadelphia Brian Westbrook RB Villanova
4 2 100 Carolina Dante Wesley DB Arkansas-Pine Bluff
4 36 134 Detroit John Taylor DT Montana State
5 7 142 San Diego Terry Charles WR Portland State
5 15 150 New Orleans Mel Mitchell FS Western Kentucky
5 29 164 Green Bay Craig Nall QB Northwestern State
5 34 169 Seattle Ryan Hannam TE Northern Iowa
6 2 174 Carolina Keith Heinrich TE Sam Houston State
6 8 180 Jacksonville Clenton Ballard DT Southwest Texas State
6 23 195 Baltimore Lamont Brightful WR Eastern Washington
6 27 199 Chicago Adrian Peterson RB Georgia Southern
6 31 203 Chicago Jamin Elliott WR Delaware
6 35 208 Dallas Deveren Johnson WR Sacred Heart
7 5 216 San Diego Seth Burford QB Cal Poly
7 23 234 Washington Greg Scott DE Hampton
7 25 236 Baltimore Wes Pate QB Stephen F. Austin

2001 Draft 21 student-athletes
3 16 78 NY Giants William Peterson CB Western Illinois
4 1 96 New England Kenyatta Jones OT South Florida
4 2 97 Cleveland Anthony Henry CB South Florida
4 3 98 Arizona Bill Gramatica K South Florida
4 31 126 Baltimore Edgerton Hartwell ILB Western Illinois
5 10 140 Seattle Alex Bannister WR Eastern Kentucky
5 18 148 Detroit Scotty Anderson WR Grambling
5 20 150 Kansas City Derrick Blaylock RB Stephen F. Austin
5 24 154 Washington Darnerian McCants WR Delaware State
5 28 158 Oakland Raymond Perryman S Northern Arizona
5 29 159 Tennessee Eddie Berlin WR Northern Iowa
5 32 162 NY Giants Jonathan Carter WR Troy State
6 17 180 New England Arther Love TE South Carolina State
6 24 187 Miami Otis Leverette DE Alabama-Birmingham
6 34 197 St. Louis Francis St.Paul WR Northern Arizona
7 15 215 Atlanta Corey Hall FS Appalachian State
7 22 222 Seattle Dennis Norman LG Princeton
7 23 223 Tampa Bay Than Merril S Yale
7 24 224 San Francisco Eric Johnson TE Yale
7 35 235 Jacksonville Richmond Flowers WR Tennessee-Chattanooga
7 43 243 Kansas City Terdell Sands DT Tennessee-Chattanooga

2000 Draft 28 student-athletes
1 21 21 Kansas City Sylvester Morris WR Jackson State
1 23 23 Carolina Rashard Anderson CB Jackson State
2 29 60 Jacksonville Brad Meester C Northern Iowa
3 3 65 San Francisco Giovanni Carmazzi QB Hofstra
3 23 85 Kansas City Greg Wesley SS Arkansas-Pine Bluff
4 3 97 Cincinnati Curtis Keaton RB James Madison
4 6 100 Atlanta Michael Thompson OT Tennessee State
4 14 108 San Francisco John Keith SS Furman
4 25 119 Seattle Isaiah Kacyvenski LB Harvard
4 27 121 Buffalo Avion Black WR Tennessee State
4 35 129 Washington Michael Moore G Troy State
5 18 147 Carolina Gillis Wilson DE Southern University
5 22 151 Green Bay Joey Jamison WR Texas Southern
5 25 154 Denver Muneer Moore WR Richmond
5 30 159 Jacksonville Kiwaukee Thomas CB Georgia Southern
6 1 167 Miami Ernest Grant DT Arkansas-Pine Bluff
6 6 172 Atlanta Mareno Philyaw WR Troy State
6 17 183 Cleveland Spergon Wynn QB Southwest Texas State
6 39 205 San Diego JaJuan Seider QB Florida A&M
7 2 208 Kansas City Desmond Kitchings WR Furman
7 3 209 Cleveland Eric Chandler DE Jackson State
7 4 210 Cincinnati Brad St. Louis TE SW Missouri State
7 5 211 Atlanta Darrick Vaughn CB Southwest Texas State
7 16 222 San Diego Jason Thomas G Hampton
7 25 231 Oakland Clifton Black CB Southwest Texas State
7 40 246 Denver Leroy Fields WR Jackson State
7 42 248 Minnesota Lewis Kelly OT South Carolina State
7 48 254 Chicago Michael Green SS Northwestern State

 

[LaMont]

The Grambling QB will be alright. In fact, he may not WANT to make an NFL team this year because he just won't get a chance to play. He MAY BE better off in Arena, Arena II, the CFL et al.